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Atheist are Blind..

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First post2016-03-23 19:26 -0800
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  Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-23 19:26 -0800
    Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-23 21:56 -0800
      Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-24 09:29 +0000
        Re: Atheist are Blind.. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-24 05:01 -0700
          Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-24 11:25 -0800
            Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-25 17:47 -0800
              Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-28 18:56 -0400
                Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-28 23:07 -0800
                  Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-29 04:50 -0400
                  Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-29 22:56 -0800
                    Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-30 05:08 -0400
                      Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 04:03 -0700
                        Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 03:56 -0400
                          Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-31 04:04 -0700
                            Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 17:22 -0400
                        Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-31 23:36 -0800
      Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-24 11:26 -0800
        Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-24 11:46 -0800
        Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-25 09:10 -0800
          Re: Atheist are Blind.. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 13:35 -0400
            Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-25 12:45 -0800
    Re: Atheist are Blind.. David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-24 08:00 -0700

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#380016 — Atheist are Blind..

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-23 19:26 -0800
SubjectAtheist are Blind..
Message-ID<56F35E75.3596@ix.netcom.com>
to be continued..

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#380021

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-23 21:56 -0800
Message-ID<56F38193.620C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#380016
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> to be continued..



Atheist are Blind...

wat i mean is..

Atheist have this mantra...

"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"

But the question is...from Who????




to be continued...

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#380027

FromLes Hellawell <les@shant.tell>
Date2016-03-24 09:29 +0000
Message-ID<mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>
In reply to#380021
On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> to be continued..
>
>
>
>Atheist are Blind...
>
>wat i mean is..
>
>Atheist have this mantra...

>
>"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>
>But the question is...from Who????

The people who make the claims of course,
Who else?

Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
them silently without even bothering to tell them


Les Hellawell
Grreting from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

Martin Luther wrote::
"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding

Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
nothing he ever said made any sense

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#380030

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-03-24 05:01 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-7AB21B.05013524032016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#380027
In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
 Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >The Starmaker wrote:
> >> 
> >> to be continued..
> >
> >
> >
> >Atheist are Blind...
> >
> >wat i mean is..
> >
> >Atheist have this mantra...
> 
> >
> >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> >
> >But the question is...from Who????
> 
> The people who make the claims of course,
> Who else?
> 
> Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
> will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
> with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
> them silently without even bothering to tell them


I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them 
to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.

-- 

JD

"If ANYONE will not welcome you or listen to 
your words, LEAVE that home or town and shake 
the dust off your feet." Matthew 10:14

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#380063

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-24 11:25 -0800
Message-ID<56F43F43.16F8@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#380030
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> 
> In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
>  Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>
> > >> to be continued..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Atheist are Blind...
> > >
> > >wat i mean is..
> > >
> > >Atheist have this mantra...
> >
> > >
> > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > >
> > >But the question is...from Who????
> >
> > The people who make the claims of course,
> > Who else?
> >
> > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
> > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
> > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
> > them silently without even bothering to tell them
> 
> I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them
> to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.


What makes you think they are NOT honest???

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#380167

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-25 17:47 -0800
Message-ID<56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#380063
hypatiab7 wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
> > >  Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> to be continued..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Atheist are Blind...
> > > > >
> > > > >wat i mean is..
> > > > >
> > > > >Atheist have this mantra...
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > > > >
> > > > >But the question is...from Who????
> > > >
> > > > The people who make the claims of course,
> > > > Who else?
> > > >
> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them
> > >
> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them
> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.
> >
> >
> > What makes you think they are NOT honest???
> 
> They never have been and their behavior.

you're talking about atheist, not christians....


if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest.


If an atheist says he doesn't believe in God...HE'S FUCKIN LYING!!!!


You give a lie detector to both of them, no atheist can pass it! 


Be real here...

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#380390

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-03-28 18:56 -0400
Message-ID<4hdjfbtee4vp42o0otu1okst1cftv4le7f@4ax.com>
In reply to#380167
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>hypatiab7 wrote:
>> 
>> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> > >
>> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
>> > >  Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
>> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> to be continued..
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Atheist are Blind...
>> > > > >
>> > > > >wat i mean is..
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Atheist have this mantra...
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> > > > >
>> > > > >But the question is...from Who????
>> > > >
>> > > > The people who make the claims of course,
>> > > > Who else?
>> > > >
>> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
>> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
>> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
>> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them
>> > >
>> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them
>> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.
>> >
>> >
>> > What makes you think they are NOT honest???
>> 
>> They never have been and their behavior.
>
>you're talking about atheist, not christians....
>
>
>if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest.

Why not?  Belief can be in anything, and means nothing.

>
>
>If an atheist says he doesn't believe in God...HE'S FUCKIN LYING!!!!

Why?  I do not seriously believe in anything that has no supporting
evidence and I have never seen any such evidence for any god.

>
>
>You give a lie detector to both of them, no atheist can pass it! 
>
>
>Be real here...

Your opinion is noted.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#380402

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-28 23:07 -0800
Message-ID<56FA29B8.425A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#380390
Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >hypatiab7 wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
> >> > >  Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
> >> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> to be continued..
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Atheist are Blind...
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >wat i mean is..
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Atheist have this mantra...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >But the question is...from Who????
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The people who make the claims of course,
> >> > > > Who else?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
> >> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
> >> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
> >> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them
> >> > >
> >> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them
> >> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What makes you think they are NOT honest???
> >>
> >> They never have been and their behavior.
> >
> >you're talking about atheist, not christians....
> >
> >
> >if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest.
> 
> Why not?  Belief can be in anything, and means nothing.



I was talking about Honesty, ...not beliefs. You must be an atheists,
yous don't know what honesty is.

Let me say something that will probably be very differcult for yous to
believe, ...I Don't Lie.


I'm incapable of lying. I must have some kind of genetic defect...I juat
don't lie!


I always tell the truth.


I get into trouble a lot because a lot of people don't like to hear the
truth. I just don't know how to lie to them.

Is there medicine I can take that will help me lie? A pill maybe.


Maybe I have a brain injury....


People tell me I shoudn't tell the truth all the time...but how do you
explain to people 
that I don't lie or I'm incapable of lying? 

Some of yous think it's scientifikly impossible...


I simply, don't lie.


I cannot lie.

I don't know how...or it's too differcult.

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#380409

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-03-29 04:50 -0400
Message-ID<77gkfbp05m3gi01q5rtfio6u56b04snql3@4ax.com>
In reply to#380402
On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:07:36 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<56FA29B8.425A@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >hypatiab7 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
>> >> > >  Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
>> >> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> to be continued..
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >Atheist are Blind...
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >wat i mean is..
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >Atheist have this mantra...
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >But the question is...from Who????
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > The people who make the claims of course,
>> >> > > > Who else?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
>> >> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
>> >> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
>> >> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them
>> >> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > What makes you think they are NOT honest???
>> >>
>> >> They never have been and their behavior.
>> >
>> >you're talking about atheist, not christians....
>> >
>> >
>> >if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest.
>> 
>> Why not?  Belief can be in anything, and means nothing.
>
>
>
>I was talking about Honesty, ...not beliefs. You must be an atheists,
>yous don't know what honesty is.
>
>Let me say something that will probably be very differcult for yous to
>believe, ...I Don't Lie.
>
>
>I'm incapable of lying. I must have some kind of genetic defect...I juat
>don't lie!
>
>
>I always tell the truth.
>
>
>I get into trouble a lot because a lot of people don't like to hear the
>truth. I just don't know how to lie to them.
>
>Is there medicine I can take that will help me lie? A pill maybe.
>
>
>Maybe I have a brain injury....
>
>
>People tell me I shoudn't tell the truth all the time...but how do you
>explain to people 
>that I don't lie or I'm incapable of lying? 
>
>Some of yous think it's scientifikly impossible...
>
>
>I simply, don't lie.
>
>
>I cannot lie.
>
>I don't know how...or it's too differcult.

According to that long disjointed rambling (I think) you seem to feel
somehow being an atheist requires lying while everyone else is totally
honest.

How very odd.

But then. you do appear to be a bit odd.

BTW, never lying does not mean always stating facts.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#380456

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-29 22:56 -0800
Message-ID<56FB7889.7284@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#380402
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Attila < wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >hypatiab7 wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
> > >> > >  Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
> > >> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> to be continued..
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >Atheist are Blind...
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >wat i mean is..
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >Atheist have this mantra...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >But the question is...from Who????
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The people who make the claims of course,
> > >> > > > Who else?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
> > >> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
> > >> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
> > >> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them
> > >> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > What makes you think they are NOT honest???
> > >>
> > >> They never have been and their behavior.
> > >
> > >you're talking about atheist, not christians....
> > >
> > >
> > >if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest.
> >
> > Why not?  Belief can be in anything, and means nothing.
> 
> I was talking about Honesty, ...not beliefs. You must be an atheists,
> yous don't know what honesty is.
> 
> Let me say something that will probably be very differcult for yous to
> believe, ...I Don't Lie.
> 
> I'm incapable of lying. I must have some kind of genetic defect...I juat
> don't lie!
> 
> I always tell the truth.
> 
> I get into trouble a lot because a lot of people don't like to hear the
> truth. I just don't know how to lie to them.
> 
> Is there medicine I can take that will help me lie? A pill maybe.
> 
> Maybe I have a brain injury....
> 
> People tell me I shoudn't tell the truth all the time...but how do you
> explain to people
> that I don't lie or I'm incapable of lying?
> 
> Some of yous think it's scientifikly impossible...
> 
> I simply, don't lie.
> 
> I cannot lie.
> 
> I don't know how...or it's too differcult.



...also, I don't know Right from Wrong.

I never learned right from wrong, and I'm not sure where one learns right from wrong.

I'm not interested in legal stuff, cause the illegal I do immediately. 

I break other peoples rules and laws.

Is abortion right or wrong? I don't know.


I don't know Right from Wrong.


Where do you people learn Right from Wrong anyway?


I'm curious because I never learned  Right from Wrong.


Did I miss a class or something (while I was cutting classes?)


Where do you people learn Right from Wrong anyway?

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#380467

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-03-30 05:08 -0400
Message-ID<0r5nfbt77jh00csm16mqepna6qkgvve00m@4ax.com>
In reply to#380456
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:56:09 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<56FB7889.7284@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> Attila < wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker
>> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> > <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >hypatiab7 wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > >> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
>> > >> > >  Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
>> > >> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >> to be continued..
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >Atheist are Blind...
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >wat i mean is..
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >Atheist have this mantra...
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >But the question is...from Who????
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > The people who make the claims of course,
>> > >> > > > Who else?
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
>> > >> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
>> > >> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
>> > >> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them
>> > >> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > What makes you think they are NOT honest???
>> > >>
>> > >> They never have been and their behavior.
>> > >
>> > >you're talking about atheist, not christians....
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest.
>> >
>> > Why not?  Belief can be in anything, and means nothing.
>> 
>> I was talking about Honesty, ...not beliefs. You must be an atheists,
>> yous don't know what honesty is.
>> 
>> Let me say something that will probably be very differcult for yous to
>> believe, ...I Don't Lie.
>> 
>> I'm incapable of lying. I must have some kind of genetic defect...I juat
>> don't lie!
>> 
>> I always tell the truth.
>> 
>> I get into trouble a lot because a lot of people don't like to hear the
>> truth. I just don't know how to lie to them.
>> 
>> Is there medicine I can take that will help me lie? A pill maybe.
>> 
>> Maybe I have a brain injury....
>> 
>> People tell me I shoudn't tell the truth all the time...but how do you
>> explain to people
>> that I don't lie or I'm incapable of lying?
>> 
>> Some of yous think it's scientifikly impossible...
>> 
>> I simply, don't lie.
>> 
>> I cannot lie.
>> 
>> I don't know how...or it's too differcult.
>
>
>
>...also, I don't know Right from Wrong.
>
>I never learned right from wrong, and I'm not sure where one learns right from wrong.
>
>I'm not interested in legal stuff, cause the illegal I do immediately. 
>
>I break other peoples rules and laws.
>
>Is abortion right or wrong? I don't know.
>
>
>I don't know Right from Wrong.
>
>
>Where do you people learn Right from Wrong anyway?
>
>
>I'm curious because I never learned  Right from Wrong.
>
>
>Did I miss a class or something (while I was cutting classes?)
>
>
>Where do you people learn Right from Wrong anyway?

Right and wrong have no intrinsic values and will change from person
to person and over time.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#380478

Fromje suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where>
Date2016-03-30 04:03 -0700
Message-ID<charlie-gordon1492-0AA546.04033330032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#380467
In article <0r5nfbt77jh00csm16mqepna6qkgvve00m@4ax.com>,
 Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

> Right and wrong have no intrinsic values and will change from person
> to person and over time.

And with this you argue in favor of a christian god. However the empirical 
evidence shows you are stupid. Other than small, inconsequential details 
smmoothed over by host and guest rules, nearly all humans agree in the main what 
is right and wrong.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#380547

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-03-31 03:56 -0400
Message-ID<utlpfbp6rjbnitugmos5pai67l2kqp5uok@4ax.com>
In reply to#380478
On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:03:33 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
<charlie-gordon1492-0AA546.04033330032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
wrote:

>In article <0r5nfbt77jh00csm16mqepna6qkgvve00m@4ax.com>,
> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>> Right and wrong have no intrinsic values and will change from person
>> to person and over time.
>
>And with this you argue in favor of a christian god.

I have never done this.

> However the empirical 
>evidence shows you are stupid. Other than small, inconsequential details 
>smmoothed over by host and guest rules, nearly all humans agree in the main what 
>is right and wrong.

Nonsense.  Those terms had entirely different meanings and
applications in the past and in different cultures.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#380549

Fromje suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where>
Date2016-03-31 04:04 -0700
Message-ID<charlie-gordon1492-D261A7.04043531032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#380547
In article <utlpfbp6rjbnitugmos5pai67l2kqp5uok@4ax.com>,
 Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:03:33 -0700, je suis charly
> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <charlie-gordon1492-0AA546.04033330032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <0r5nfbt77jh00csm16mqepna6qkgvve00m@4ax.com>,
> > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> >
> >> Right and wrong have no intrinsic values and will change from person
> >> to person and over time.
> >
> >And with this you argue in favor of a christian god.
> 
> I have never done this.

You have done it now. You are arguing there is no morality without a god to 
impose.

> > However the empirical 
> >evidence shows you are stupid. Other than small, inconsequential details 
> >smmoothed over by host and guest rules, nearly all humans agree in the main 
> >what 
> >is right and wrong.
> 
> Nonsense.  Those terms had entirely different meanings and
> applications in the past and in different cultures.

Yes, I understand. You do not see humans naturally having morality. Any morality 
they exhibit must therefore be of supernatural origin.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#380582

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-03-31 17:22 -0400
Message-ID<g45rfbtb0fla6p4iph15lkal5d8eq0svjp@4ax.com>
In reply to#380549
On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:04:35 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
<charlie-gordon1492-D261A7.04043531032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
wrote:

>In article <utlpfbp6rjbnitugmos5pai67l2kqp5uok@4ax.com>,
> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:03:33 -0700, je suis charly
>> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <charlie-gordon1492-0AA546.04033330032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <0r5nfbt77jh00csm16mqepna6qkgvve00m@4ax.com>,
>> > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Right and wrong have no intrinsic values and will change from person
>> >> to person and over time.
>> >
>> >And with this you argue in favor of a christian god.
>> 
>> I have never done this.
>
>You have done it now. You are arguing there is no morality without a god to 
>impose.

I have never even implied this.  You can seem to find the damndest
things where there isn't even a whiff of existence.

Can you ever get anything even remotely correct?

>
>> > However the empirical 
>> >evidence shows you are stupid. Other than small, inconsequential details 
>> >smmoothed over by host and guest rules, nearly all humans agree in the main 
>> >what 
>> >is right and wrong.
>> 
>> Nonsense.  Those terms had entirely different meanings and
>> applications in the past and in different cultures.
>
>Yes, I understand. You do not see humans naturally having morality. Any morality 
>they exhibit must therefore be of supernatural origin.

Unbelievable.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#380598

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-31 23:36 -0800
Message-ID<56FE2514.2AF3@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#380478
je suis charly wrote:
> 
> In article <0r5nfbt77jh00csm16mqepna6qkgvve00m@4ax.com>,
>  Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> 
> > Right and wrong have no intrinsic values and will change from person
> > to person and over time.
> 
> And with this you argue in favor of a christian god.

what is a "christian god"? 

I mean, Jesus Christ wasn't a christian...

And God is an atheist.

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#380065

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-24 11:26 -0800
Message-ID<56F43F56.298@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#380021
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > to be continued..
> 
> Atheist are Blind...
> 
> wat i mean is..
> 
> Atheist have this mantra...
> 
> "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> 
> But the question is...from Who????
> 
> to be continued...



How about the Pope?

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#380067

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-24 11:46 -0800
Message-ID<56F4441E.7724@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#380065
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > to be continued..
> >
> > Atheist are Blind...
> >
> > wat i mean is..
> >
> > Atheist have this mantra...
> >
> > "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> >
> > But the question is...from Who????
> >
> > to be continued...
> 
> How about the Pope?


How about the well known atheist Stephen Hawking? Naw, he's toooo angry at God if you know what I mean...


How can one be an atheist and angry at God at the same time just because you look like Richard Widmark
drew you down the stairs in your wheel chair?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oesSyvh76g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_WEvWcVoFw

which way is up?
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01461/Hawking1_1461355a.jpg

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#380139

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-25 09:10 -0800
Message-ID<56F57123.69F4@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#380065
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > to be continued..
> >
> > Atheist are Blind...
> >
> > wat i mean is..
> >
> > Atheist have this mantra...
> >
> > "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> >
> > But the question is...from Who????
> >
> > to be continued...
> 
> How about the Pope?


How about NASA?

Do you trust a 'science guy'??


Some of yous atheist want 'scientific evidence'...

from a 'scientific community' which the majority are atheist.


What about this "imaginary God" atheist seem to talk about all the time???

In the world of science fiction, and the world of real science...there are two types of imaginary.


You can imagine something, and it can be real things that you imagine.

In the science fiction world they imagine things that are not real, they call it...fantasty.


The 'science guys' imagine things all the time. Their world is filled with imaginary things.

They call it...hypothesis.


So, a "imaginary God" is someone who imagines God to be real. He's imaginaing a real God, not a fantasty God. 


Nature, mother Nature...is a "imaginary God"...who the 'scientific communtiy' believes she is a ...mathematician. (among other things)



An "imaginary God" is a real God. There are fantasy gods also. But there is only one real God...the real God that you imagine.



In order to see God, you have to use your imagination...you got to imagine Him! 


Now, if an atheist cannot imagine a real God, they have to be real stupid. 



It doesn't take much imagination...

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#380143

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-25 13:35 -0400
Message-ID<jFeJy.138769$3_5.19880@fx36.iad>
In reply to#380139
On 03/25/2016 01:10 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> to be continued..
>>>
>>> Atheist are Blind...
>>>
>>> wat i mean is..
>>>
>>> Atheist have this mantra...
>>>
>>> "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>>> "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>>> "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>>>
>>> But the question is...from Who????
>>>
>>> to be continued...
>>
>> How about the Pope?
>
>
> How about NASA?
>
> Do you trust a 'science guy'??
>
>
> Some of yous atheist want 'scientific evidence'...
>
> from a 'scientific community' which the majority are atheist.
>
>
> What about this "imaginary God" atheist seem to talk about all the time???
>
> In the world of science fiction, and the world of real science...there are two types of imaginary.
>
>
> You can imagine something, and it can be real things that you imagine.
>
> In the science fiction world they imagine things that are not real, they call it...fantasty.
>
>
> The 'science guys' imagine things all the time. Their world is filled with imaginary things.
>
> They call it...hypothesis.
>
>
> So, a "imaginary God" is someone who imagines God to be real. He's imaginaing a real God, not a fantasty God.
>
>
> Nature, mother Nature...is a "imaginary God"...who the 'scientific communtiy' believes she is a ...mathematician. (among other things)
>
>
>
> An "imaginary God" is a real God. There are fantasy gods also. But there is only one real God...the real God that you imagine.
>
>
>
> In order to see God, you have to use your imagination...you got to imagine Him!
>
>
> Now, if an atheist cannot imagine a real God, they have to be real stupid.
>
>
>
> It doesn't take much imagination...
>

Gentle ripples form as the Troll bait is dragged through the INTENET waters.

Starfaker, don't you have some stars to make or something?


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