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  Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-11 11:40 -0800
    Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 20:51 +0100
      Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-11 22:07 +0100
        Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> - 2016-03-11 21:11 +0000
      Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-11 15:56 -0800
        Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2016-03-12 01:52 +0100
      Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-03-12 09:35 -0500
        Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-12 09:24 -0800
          Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-03-12 12:57 -0500
            Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-12 13:23 -0800
    Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-11 21:05 -0800
      Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 07:52 -0600
        Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-12 09:17 -0800
          Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-03-12 12:14 -0800
            Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-12 19:04 -0800
              Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-03-12 20:46 -0800
              Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-12 22:17 -0800
                Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-03-13 13:09 -0700
                  Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-13 14:15 -0800

#378608 — Re: Why do clouds not fall out of the sky?

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Poutnik wrote:
> >
> > Dne 09/03/2016 v 02:43 The Starmaker napsal(a):
> > > James McGinn wrote:
> >
> > >>
> > >> James McGinn:
> > >> We have an abundance of blatant and undisputed evidence that
> > >> contradicts this claim: clouds. Right? Based on meteorology's
> > >> assumptions clouds should drop out of the sky like bricks.  Right?
> > >> But they don't. Why do you think that is?
> > >>
> > Such conclusion is based
> > on James's funny understanding of meteorology.
> >
> > Following conclusions are as usually based on false premises.
> >
> > >
> > > The reason why clouds "not fall out of the sky" is because...
> > >
> > > the Moon catches it...and pulls it back up.
> >
> > ..and this is not better.
> 
> That is not a very informative or 'much of an answer'...
> 
> Let me explain very simply..
> 
> You remove the Moon, the Clouds fall down, right?


Okay, I get it...

you people don't understand what our Moon is, ...and it's funtions.


I'm going to have to start a new thread..

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#378613

Dne 11/03/2016 v 20:40 The Starmaker napsal(a):
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> Poutnik wrote:
>>>

>>
>> That is not a very informative or 'much of an answer'...
>>
>> Let me explain very simply..
>>
>> You remove the Moon, the Clouds fall down, right?
> 

Of course not...


-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#378622

Poutnik wrote:

> Dne 11/03/2016 v 20:40 The Starmaker napsal(a):
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> That is not a very informative or 'much of an answer'...
>>>
>>> Let me explain very simply..
>>>
>>> You remove the Moon, the Clouds fall down, right?
> 
> Of course not...

ACK.  The misconceptions that some people have about the world that they 
live in are truly amazing.  You did not have to continue the amok-crosspost, 
though.


F'up2 sci.physics

PointedEars
-- 
Two neutrinos go through a bar ...

(from: WolframAlpha)

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#378623

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

>> Of course not...
> 
> ACK.  The misconceptions that some people have about the world that they
> live in are truly amazing.  You did not have to continue the
> amok-crosspost, though.

Piss off now, we don't talk to half-engineers.

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#378667

Poutnik wrote:
> 
> Dne 11/03/2016 v 20:40 The Starmaker napsal(a):
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> Poutnik wrote:
> >>>
> 
> >>
> >> That is not a very informative or 'much of an answer'...
> >>
> >> Let me explain very simply..
> >>
> >> You remove the Moon, the Clouds fall down, right?
> >
> 
> Of course not...


That is not an answer...it means nothing.

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#378672

On 12.03.16 0:56, The Starmaker wrote:
> Poutnik wrote:
>>
>> Dne 11/03/2016 v 20:40 The Starmaker napsal(a):
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Poutnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> That is not a very informative or 'much of an answer'...
>>>>
>>>> Let me explain very simply..
>>>>
>>>> You remove the Moon, the Clouds fall down, right?
>>>
>>
>> Of course not...
>
>
> That is not an answer...it means nothing.
>
So that one is using your approach to trolling .

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#378728

Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 11/03/2016 v 20:40 The Starmaker napsal(a):
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> Poutnik wrote:
>>>>
>
>>>
>>> That is not a very informative or 'much of an answer'...
>>>
>>> Let me explain very simply..
>>>
>>> You remove the Moon, the Clouds fall down, right?
>>
>
> Of course not...





Sure they do.
What do you think FOG is 

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#378739

Bast wrote:
> 
> Poutnik wrote:
> > Dne 11/03/2016 v 20:40 The Starmaker napsal(a):
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Poutnik wrote:
> >>>>
> >
> >>>
> >>> That is not a very informative or 'much of an answer'...
> >>>
> >>> Let me explain very simply..
> >>>
> >>> You remove the Moon, the Clouds fall down, right?
> >>
> >
> > Of course not...
> 
> Sure they do.
> What do you think FOG is



probably caused by the sun gettin in the way of the moon at a different angle.

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#378741

The Starmaker wrote:
> Bast wrote:
>>
>> Poutnik wrote:
>>> Dne 11/03/2016 v 20:40 The Starmaker napsal(a):
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Poutnik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is not a very informative or 'much of an answer'...
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me explain very simply..
>>>>>
>>>>> You remove the Moon, the Clouds fall down, right?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Of course not...
>>
>> Sure they do.
>> What do you think FOG is
>
>
>
> probably caused by the sun gettin in the way of the moon at a different
> angle.



Naaaaa,....Fog is clouds that fell down. 

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#378758

Bast wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Bast wrote:
> >>
> >> Poutnik wrote:
> >>> Dne 11/03/2016 v 20:40 The Starmaker napsal(a):
> >>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Poutnik wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That is not a very informative or 'much of an answer'...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let me explain very simply..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You remove the Moon, the Clouds fall down, right?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Of course not...
> >>
> >> Sure they do.
> >> What do you think FOG is
> >
> >
> >
> > probably caused by the sun gettin in the way of the moon at a different
> > angle.
> 
> Naaaaa,....Fog is clouds that fell down.


Yes, I agree with you...the fog fell down because the sun got in the way
from the pulling of the moon.

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#378684

Quadibloc wrote:
> 
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 12:40:54 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > Okay, I get it...
> 
> > you people don't understand what our Moon is, ...and it's funtions.
> 
> > I'm going to have to start a new thread..
> 
> Venus has no moon. Why don't its clouds fall down?
> 
> John Savard


Venus, or any other planet in the universe doesn't have clouds.

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#378723

On 3/11/16 11:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Venus, or any other planet in the universe doesn't have clouds


   Venus is shrouded in non-clouds? Too funny.

-- 

sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
community, and physics-related social issues.

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#378737

Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 3/11/16 11:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Venus, or any other planet in the universe doesn't have clouds
> 
>    Venus is shrouded in non-clouds? Too funny.
> 


Well Sam...since you're a wiki university student, i don't expect you to know what a "cloud" is:



http://www.dictionary.com/browse/cloud


 1.
a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, usually at an elevation above the earth's surface.





Now,

is earth and venus the same planet?
does venus have water or ice suspended in the air?
do you see the word "venus" or "earth" in the definition above?

Do you understand the function of our sun, our earth, ...our moon in this universe?


There are no clouds on venus according to the dictionary. 


A cloud is according to the dictionary, "above the earth's surface".


"visible collection of particles of water.."


"ice suspended in the air"


"above the earth's surface"


cloud.





Now, I know NASA university will tell you that there are billions of earths, with oceans and clouds and snowing everywhere...
but they are just a bunch of fuckin liars.


I'm talking about...reality.


Reality is something the 'physics community' know nothing about. (especially wiki university students)



Now, are there a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, at an elevation above the Venus's surface??? Yes or No?

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#378755

On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 9:17:38 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> Sam Wormley wrote:
> > 
> > On 3/11/16 11:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Venus, or any other planet in the universe doesn't have clouds
> > 
> >    Venus is shrouded in non-clouds? Too funny.
> > 
> 
> 
> Well Sam...since you're a wiki university student, i don't expect you to know what a "cloud" is:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.dictionary.com/browse/cloud
> 
> 
>  1.
> a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, usually at an elevation above the earth's surface.

Well, you dimwit, you forgot to include at least one other definition from your very own link...

2.
any similar mass, especially of smoke or dust.


> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Now,
> 
> is earth and venus the same planet?
> does venus have water or ice suspended in the air?
> do you see the word "venus" or "earth" in the definition above?
> 
> Do you understand the function of our sun, our earth, ...our moon in this universe?
> 
> 
> There are no clouds on venus according to the dictionary.

Only in your small, demented mind... 

> Now, are there a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, at an elevation above the Venus's surface??? Yes or No?

Yes, water vapor...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus

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#378778

pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 9:17:38 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > >
> > > On 3/11/16 11:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Venus, or any other planet in the universe doesn't have clouds
> > >
> > >    Venus is shrouded in non-clouds? Too funny.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Well Sam...since you're a wiki university student, i don't expect you to know what a "cloud" is:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.dictionary.com/browse/cloud
> >
> >
> >  1.
> > a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, usually at an elevation above the earth's surface.
> 
> Well, you dimwit, you forgot to include at least one other definition from your very own link...
> 
> 2.
> any similar mass, especially of smoke or dust.
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Now,
> >
> > is earth and venus the same planet?
> > does venus have water or ice suspended in the air?
> > do you see the word "venus" or "earth" in the definition above?
> >
> > Do you understand the function of our sun, our earth, ...our moon in this universe?
> >
> >
> > There are no clouds on venus according to the dictionary.
> 
> Only in your small, demented mind...
> 
> > Now, are there a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, at an elevation above the Venus's surface??? Yes or No?
> 
> Yes, water vapor...
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus



didn't take long for a 'wiki university student' to show up, didn't it?

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#378781

On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 7:04:35 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 9:17:38 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 3/11/16 11:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Venus, or any other planet in the universe doesn't have clouds
> > > >
> > > >    Venus is shrouded in non-clouds? Too funny.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well Sam...since you're a wiki university student, i don't expect you to know what a "cloud" is:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.dictionary.com/browse/cloud
> > >
> > >
> > >  1.
> > > a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, usually at an elevation above the earth's surface.
> > 
> > Well, you dimwit, you forgot to include at least one other definition from your very own link...
> > 
> > 2.
> > any similar mass, especially of smoke or dust.
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Now,
> > >
> > > is earth and venus the same planet?
> > > does venus have water or ice suspended in the air?
> > > do you see the word "venus" or "earth" in the definition above?
> > >
> > > Do you understand the function of our sun, our earth, ...our moon in this universe?
> > >
> > >
> > > There are no clouds on venus according to the dictionary.
> > 
> > Only in your small, demented mind...
> > 
> > > Now, are there a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, at an elevation above the Venus's surface??? Yes or No?
> > 
> > Yes, water vapor...
> > 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus
> 
> 
> 
> didn't take long for a 'wiki university student' to show up, didn't it?

If you don't like Wiki, well, there are others...

http://www.universetoday.com/36291/is-there-water-on-venus/

http://www.space.com/18527-venus-atmosphere.html

http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/ask/43-What-is-the-atmosphere-of-Venus-like-

http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1999792,00.html

Although just a trace amount, nevertheless there is water vapor in the atmosphere of Venus... 

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#378784

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 9:17:38 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 3/11/16 11:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Venus, or any other planet in the universe doesn't have clouds
> > > >
> > > >    Venus is shrouded in non-clouds? Too funny.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well Sam...since you're a wiki university student, i don't expect you to know what a "cloud" is:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.dictionary.com/browse/cloud
> > >
> > >
> > >  1.
> > > a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, usually at an elevation above the earth's surface.
> >
> > Well, you dimwit, you forgot to include at least one other definition from your very own link...
> >
> > 2.
> > any similar mass, especially of smoke or dust.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Now,
> > >
> > > is earth and venus the same planet?
> > > does venus have water or ice suspended in the air?
> > > do you see the word "venus" or "earth" in the definition above?
> > >
> > > Do you understand the function of our sun, our earth, ...our moon in this universe?
> > >
> > >
> > > There are no clouds on venus according to the dictionary.
> >
> > Only in your small, demented mind...
> >
> > > Now, are there a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, at an elevation above the Venus's surface??? Yes or No?
> >
> > Yes, water vapor...
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus
> 
> didn't take long for a 'wiki university student' to show up, didn't it?

Okay, lets look at that 'trusted' link pnalsing manage to bring here...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus



I see "The Venusian atmosphere supports opaque clouds made of sulfuric acid,.."


Now, ... What is "Venusian"????

According to Google:

"science fiction and ufology, a Venusian or Venerian is a native inhabitant of the planet Venus."
https://www.google.com/#q=Venusian


The word "Venusian" is simply a combination of the name of the planet Venus and the suffix -ian, formed on the analogy of "Martian" 



Are there any Venusian people or Martians on Venus????



In the 1950s a group of contactees told stories in which they claimed to be in contact with friendly, light-haired, light-skinned humans from the planet Venus,...

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#378870

On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 10:16:53 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 9:17:38 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/11/16 11:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > Venus, or any other planet in the universe doesn't have clouds
> > > > >
> > > > >    Venus is shrouded in non-clouds? Too funny.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well Sam...since you're a wiki university student, i don't expect you to know what a "cloud" is:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dictionary.com/browse/cloud
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  1.
> > > > a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, usually at an elevation above the earth's surface.
> > >
> > > Well, you dimwit, you forgot to include at least one other definition from your very own link...
> > >
> > > 2.
> > > any similar mass, especially of smoke or dust.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now,
> > > >
> > > > is earth and venus the same planet?
> > > > does venus have water or ice suspended in the air?
> > > > do you see the word "venus" or "earth" in the definition above?
> > > >
> > > > Do you understand the function of our sun, our earth, ...our moon in this universe?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are no clouds on venus according to the dictionary.
> > >
> > > Only in your small, demented mind...
> > >
> > > > Now, are there a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, at an elevation above the Venus's surface??? Yes or No?
> > >
> > > Yes, water vapor...
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus
> > 
> > didn't take long for a 'wiki university student' to show up, didn't it?
> 
> Okay, lets look at that 'trusted' link pnalsing manage to bring here...

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus

> I see "The Venusian atmosphere supports opaque clouds made of sulfuric acid,.."

Irrelevant. The reason I provided that link (and the others, which you conveniently snipped) was because it tells us that the atmosphere of Venus contains 20 ppm of water vapor, the gaseous state of water, and your original question was "does venus have water or ice suspended in the air?", and I responded 'yes', and supplied a link.

Do you have a problem with that?

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#378875

pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 10:16:53 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 9:17:38 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 3/11/16 11:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > Venus, or any other planet in the universe doesn't have clouds
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Venus is shrouded in non-clouds? Too funny.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well Sam...since you're a wiki university student, i don't expect you to know what a "cloud" is:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.dictionary.com/browse/cloud
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  1.
> > > > > a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, usually at an elevation above the earth's surface.
> > > >
> > > > Well, you dimwit, you forgot to include at least one other definition from your very own link...
> > > >
> > > > 2.
> > > > any similar mass, especially of smoke or dust.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Now,
> > > > >
> > > > > is earth and venus the same planet?
> > > > > does venus have water or ice suspended in the air?
> > > > > do you see the word "venus" or "earth" in the definition above?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you understand the function of our sun, our earth, ...our moon in this universe?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There are no clouds on venus according to the dictionary.
> > > >
> > > > Only in your small, demented mind...
> > > >
> > > > > Now, are there a visible collection of particles of water or ice suspended in the air, at an elevation above the Venus's surface??? Yes or No?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, water vapor...
> > > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus
> > >
> > > didn't take long for a 'wiki university student' to show up, didn't it?
> >
> > Okay, lets look at that 'trusted' link pnalsing manage to bring here...
> 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus
> 
> > I see "The Venusian atmosphere supports opaque clouds made of sulfuric acid,.."
> 
> Irrelevant. The reason I provided that link (and the others, which you conveniently snipped) was because it tells us that the atmosphere of Venus contains 20 ppm of water vapor, the gaseous state of water, and your original question was "does venus have water or ice suspended in the air?", and I responded 'yes', and supplied a link.
> 
> Do you have a problem with that?


I understand your people wisfull thinking to see water everywhere in the universe..it's just the falsification of information.

Is there 20 ppm of water vapor on Mars also? Of course, there is water everywhere in the universe! Buckets full!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_8hQ-tdInQ

But it's all false.

Everyone knows that...

Who do you think you're fooling besides yourself?


All of Wiki is falsification of information.


https://www.google.com/#q=venusian


is a native inhabitant of the planet Venus.


That kind of information should not be seen by children on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus


Now, ...yous seem to lost the beginning where I write:


"You need to look at the Moon
like a particle..

this particle has it's function."



To be clear, every particle has a different function.


I'm looking at "our Moon" function, not the planet Pluto or Mars which are particles that have different funtions.


The reason why clouds "not fall out of the sky" is because...

the Moon catches it...and pulls it back up.


The Moon makes it rain..

the moon makes oceans.

You need to look at the Moon
like a particle..

this particle has it's function.



Okay...maybe it's to differcult for yous to understand...

You take a game of chess...
each piece has a different function..

it goes this way and it goes that way.


Do you understand the difference between 'it goes this way and it goes that way'?


Pretend the rook is the moon...

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