Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > sci.physics.relativity > #373552 > unrolled thread

Where are our clocks?

Back to article view | Back to sci.physics.relativity

Contents

  Where are our clocks? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-08 16:51 -0800
    Re: Where are our clocks? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-08 16:54 -0800
      Re: Where are our clocks? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-08 16:58 -0800
      Re: Where are our clocks? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-08 17:13 -0800
        Re: Where are our clocks? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-08 17:15 -0800
    Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-09 10:58 +0100
      Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-09 04:33 -0800
        Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-09 14:05 +0100
          Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-09 06:21 -0800
            Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-09 15:53 +0100
              Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-09 16:13 +0100
              Re: Where are our clocks? Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-09 15:31 +0000
                Re: Where are our clocks? Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2016-01-10 08:09 -0700
                  Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-10 16:28 +0100
                    Re: Where are our clocks? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-10 10:40 -0800
                      Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-10 21:00 +0100
                  Re: Where are our clocks? Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-10 19:21 +0000
                Re: Where are our clocks? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 20:52 -0800
                  Re: Where are our clocks? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-01-10 23:39 -0800
                  Re: Where are our clocks? Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-11 19:05 +0000
                    Re: Where are our clocks? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-01-11 22:48 -0800
                    Re: Where are our clocks? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 22:56 -0800
                Re: Where are our clocks? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-01-10 23:36 -0800
              Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-09 08:11 -0800
                Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-09 18:42 +0100
                  Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-09 12:27 -0800
                    Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-09 22:16 +0100
                      Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-09 14:18 -0800
                        Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-09 23:23 +0100
                          Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-09 15:20 -0800
                            Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-10 00:45 +0100
                              Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-09 19:35 -0800
                                Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-10 11:09 +0100
                                  Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-10 04:33 -0800
                                    Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-10 13:55 +0100
                                      Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-10 05:34 -0800
                                        Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-10 14:46 +0100
                                          Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-10 06:36 -0800
                                            Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-10 16:03 +0100
                                              Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-10 07:19 -0800
                                                Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-10 16:35 +0100
                                                  Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-10 07:59 -0800
                                                    Re: Where are our clocks? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-10 20:37 +0100
                                                      Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-10 16:22 -0800
                                                        Re: Where are our clocks? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-01-10 23:31 -0800
                                                          Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-11 04:57 -0800
                                                            Re: Where are our clocks? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-01-11 05:23 -0800
                                                              Re: Where are our clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-11 06:21 -0800
    Re: Where are our clocks? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-09 13:18 -0800

Page 3 of 3 — ← Prev page 1 2 [3]

#373628

Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:b5b06a54-bc38-4e32-9b6a-9e4cf7a00112@googlegroups.com...

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 8:03:46 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:b68fe447-d6b9-4b12-946e-138f70539dcd@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Yes, google kept a record.  You wrote:
> > "And clocks on GPS indications are - t'=t."
>
> Right.

|Which, of course, is wrong.  You did not speak the truth.

No, it isn't.  Yes, i did.
If t is indication of the Earth clock and t' - indication of
satellite clock, and they are equal - that means t'=t.
Of course, it's too complicated for a relativistic moron.

Well,poor idiot, you can live in your own delusional world and I'll
continue to live in the REAL world. Where clock indications of GPS
are equal, ie, t'=t.  May you be relatively happy in your fantasy
world, until I destroy it for good. 

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#373631

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 8:36:22 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:b5b06a54-bc38-4e32-9b6a-9e4cf7a00112@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 8:03:46 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> > >
> > > "And clocks on GPS indications are - t'=t."
> >
> > Which, of course, is wrong.  You did not speak the truth.
> 
> No, it isn't.

Yes, it is.  To measure what a clock actually reads, you must be in the
same frame as the clock.  No one is in that frame.  Before the clock was
launched, it was in the same frame as the ground clock and it was running
slow.

> Yes, i did.

Face it.  You NEVER tell the truth.  Apparently, you have antisocial
personality disorder:

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2015/02/12/differences-between-a-psychopath-vs-sociopath/

"2. Constantly lies and deceives others"

> If t is indication of the Earth clock and t' - indication of
> satellite clock, and they are equal - that means t'=t.

Only because the satellite clock is not in the same frame as the earth
clock.  The former was set to run slow intentionally so it would appear
to approximate the ground clock.

Of course, it's too complicated for a dishonest, delusional troll.

Well,poor idiot, you can live in your own delusional world and I'll
continue to live in the REAL world.  May you be relatively happy in
your fantasy world

> until I destroy it for good.

"4. Can be prone to fighting and aggressiveness"

"7. Doesn’t feel remorse or guilt"

That's three.  You have APD, as well as serious autism.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#373641

Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:5feae3e6-e5d5-4a81-8677-531088778063@googlegroups.com...


> If t is indication of the Earth clock and t' - indication of
> satellite clock, and they are equal - that means t'=t.

|Only because the satellite clock is not in the same frame as the earth
|clock.  The former was set to run slow intentionally so it would appear
|to approximate the ground clock.

Explaination, why t'=t doesn't change the fact, that t'=t.
Of course, it's too complicated for a relativistic moron.

Well,poor idiot, you can live in your own delusional world and I'll
continue to live in the REAL world.  May you be relatively happy in
your fantasy world until I destroy it for good.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#373650

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 12:37:26 PM UTC-7, Stupid ignorant
retard wrote:
>
> Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:5feae3e6-e5d5-4a81-8677-531088778063@googlegroups.com...
> > 
> > Lying autistic idiot with APD wrote:
> > >
> > > If t is indication of the Earth clock and t' - indication of
> > > satellite clock, and they are equal - that means t'=t.
> >
> > Only because the satellite clock is not in the same frame as the earth
> > clock.  The former was set to run slow intentionally so it would appear
> > to approximate the ground clock.
> 
> Explaination, why t'=t doesn't change the fact, that t'=t.

Yes, it does, lying retarded weasel.

Of course, it's too complicated for a pinhead moron.

Well, poor idiot, you can live in your own delusional world and I'll
continue to live in the REAL world.  May you be relatively happy in
your fantasy world, but you will make no converts around here.  Even
stupid people can see right through your baloney.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#373661

W dniu poniedziałek, 11 stycznia 2016 01:22:47 UTC+1 użytkownik Gary Harnagel napisał:
> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 12:37:26 PM UTC-7, Stupid ignorant
> retard wrote:
> >
> > Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> > dyskusyjnych:5feae3e6-e5d5-4a81-8677-531088778063@googlegroups.com...
> > > 
> > > Lying autistic idiot with APD wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If t is indication of the Earth clock and t' - indication of
> > > > satellite clock, and they are equal - that means t'=t.
> > >
> > > Only because the satellite clock is not in the same frame as the earth
> > > clock.  The former was set to run slow intentionally so it would appear
> > > to approximate the ground clock.
> > 
> > Explaination, why t'=t doesn't change the fact, that t'=t.
> 
> Yes, it does, lying retarded weasel.

So, we're back at the point of the beginning.
Yes! I'm claiming real clocks indicate t'=t!!! That's true, of course, they do, but you can explain!!!!!!! 
I don't understand that these clocks are  UNPROPER!!!!!! NONSTANDARD!!!!!!!! UNUSUAL!!!!!!!!

SO SAID THE SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And The Shit knows, what is PROPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because The Shit analysed the RESULT OF EXPERIMENT OF
MICHELSON AND MORLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 


Well, poor idiot, you can live in your own delusional world and I'll
continue to live in the REAL world.  May you be relatively happy in
your fantasy world and your screaming can even make some converts 
around here. 
But your Shit is not the first shit trying to fight common sense, and
they always finish the same way.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#373674

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:31:54 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>
> So, we're back at the point of the beginning.
> Yes! I'm claiming real clocks indicate t'=t!!! That's true,

That's completely false.  The "prime" refers to what a REAL clock in the
unprimed frame will be measured as in the primed frame.  A REAL clock is
one that is sufficiently accurate: an atomic clock with no futzing around
with it to make it run fast or slow.  The clocks on the GPS satellites
are NOT real clocks because they have been modified.

> I don't understand that these clocks are  UNPROPER!!!!!!
> NONSTANDARD!!!!!!!! UNUSUAL!!!!!!!!

Yes, you understand nothing at all.  The GPS clocks don't run at the
standard rate, they've been modified to run at a different rate to
compensate for the FACT that t' does NOT equal t.

> SO SAID THE SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> And The Shit knows, what is PROPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Honest folk understand, but YOU don't.  So I'll help you out:

http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/mc_to.html

http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/what.html

Now you know what proper time is.

> Because The Shit analysed the RESULT OF EXPERIMENT OF
> MICHELSON AND MORLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Now you are babbling nonsense.

Well, poor idiot, you can live in your own delusional world and I'll
continue to live in the REAL world.  May you be relatively happy in
your fantasy world and your screaming capital letters with a lot of
exclamation marks will never make any converts around here.
 
> But your Shit is not the first shit trying to fight common sense, and
> they always finish the same way.

You are a delusional fool and an autistic retard.  BTW, why do you have
two handles?  Do you really believe you can make others think you're
not the same poster?  All you prove is that you are a dishonest troll.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#373681

W dniu poniedziałek, 11 stycznia 2016 13:57:59 UTC+1 użytkownik Gary Harnagel napisał:
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:31:54 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> >
> > So, we're back at the point of the beginning.
> > Yes! I'm claiming real clocks indicate t'=t!!! That's true,
> 
> That's completely false.  The "prime" refers to what a REAL clock in the
> unprimed frame will be measured as in the primed frame.  A REAL clock is
> one that is sufficiently accurate: an atomic clock with no futzing around
> with it to make it run fast or slow.  The clocks on the GPS satellites
> are NOT real clocks because they have been modified.


Yes!!! Realty is not, what exists!!!!!!
Reality is the imagination of relativistic moron!!!!!!
And who does not agree is
STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
> > I don't understand that these clocks are  UNPROPER!!!!!!
> > NONSTANDARD!!!!!!!! UNUSUAL!!!!!!!!
> 
> Yes, you understand nothing at all.  The GPS clocks don't run at the
> standard rate, they've been modified to run at a different rate to

And they are not real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because if they were real, The Shit would not match
the reality!!!!!!!!! And, as The Shit surely matches
the reality, GPS satellites are not real!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And who does not agree is
STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


> Now you know what proper time is.

Yes!!!!!!!!!The Shit knows for sure, what is proper
and what is not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because The Shit analysed the RESULT OF EXPERIMENT OF
MICHELSON AND MORLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Well, poor idiot, you can live in your own delusional world and I'll
continue to live in the REAL world.  May you be relatively happy in
your fantasy world, 
But your Shit is not the first shit trying to fight common sense, and
they always finish the same way.
 
> You are a delusional fool and an autistic retard.  BTW, why do you have
> two handles?  Do you really believe you can make others think you're
> not the same poster?  All you prove is that you are a dishonest troll.

Because I have 2 computers in different locations, with 
different settings, poor idiot.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#373687

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:23:38 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>
> [Totally moronic yelling and screaming]

What a stupid moron!

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#373597

John Gogo wrote:
> 
> Relativity theory depends on the facts from clocks.  This is fine.  Where are our clocks located?  Mechanically, mostly, with measures that are less than a mile away and most of the time spent on small measures at small distances.  This is the validity of special relativity- the idea of attaching clocks at two separate locations and measuring the time.


What space time is it? My space watch is broken..

Anybody know what space is it?

[toc] | [prev] | [standalone]

Page 3 of 3 — ← Prev page 1 2 [3]

Back to top | Article view | sci.physics.relativity

csiph-web