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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2015-12-08 10:23 -0800 |
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There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-08 10:23 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 13:04 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:17 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 17:54 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:57 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-08 19:15 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:27 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-09 07:20 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 08:56 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-12-09 15:11 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:38 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:41 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:51 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:54 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 17:00 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 12:35 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 18:52 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 13:01 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-09 22:15 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 15:35 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 21:55 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 15:59 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 22:13 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-09 20:35 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-10 15:33 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 01:20 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-10 08:37 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-09 16:07 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 15:22 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 21:13 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 19:47 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 21:51 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 22:06 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-09 22:51 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 00:04 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-10 12:32 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 11:29 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 22:02 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-11 07:48 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 13:54 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 22:55 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-12 07:54 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 09:16 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-12 19:47 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2015-12-13 09:06 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 07:01 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-13 19:16 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-14 06:35 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-12-14 09:09 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-15 04:25 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-19 07:14 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-21 06:03 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-21 05:45 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-22 14:03 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-12 17:46 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-17 18:31 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:26 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:38 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:40 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:44 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:52 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 17:27 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 12:37 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 18:01 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-09 11:38 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 12:13 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-10 12:30 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 11:26 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-18 06:45 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-18 10:51 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-19 21:35 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe chanB4 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-12-18 16:12 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 12:56 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-18 14:28 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-08 17:42 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-12-09 06:42 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-11 22:39 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-08 19:46 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-08 22:50 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 09:09 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 12:07 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 15:46 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 00:01 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 08:44 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 22:44 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 08:38 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 15:00 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 15:13 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 18:30 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 17:45 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:47 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:40 +0000
There Is No Edge To The Universe fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-12-09 09:38 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-09 12:26 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 09:52 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-10 16:01 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-12-10 08:51 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-10 17:31 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-11 17:12 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 16:11 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 16:28 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 22:58 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 23:14 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 07:57 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-18 11:00 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-18 22:13 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-20 16:52 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-20 16:54 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-25 08:40 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-27 23:01 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-29 10:20 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 12:31 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-29 11:31 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 14:19 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-29 13:37 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-29 21:46 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-29 13:13 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-10 13:34 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-01 18:14 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-03 22:52 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-10 13:28 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-06 12:23 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 15:12 -0600
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-12-09 12:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56688A19.1BFF@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #371636 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe". > > > > > > How many times have you heard that? > > > > > > It seems... > > > there is a small group of people.. > > > in the 'scientific community'.. > > > there is this ..belief or opinion, that > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > They, go as far as telling everyone > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > They will get together > > > and come up with > > > all kinds of explanations, > > > and numbers, to Why and How > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > It's like a mantra. > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > > > And if you disagree with them... > > > they will have you shot! > > > > > > So, why the mantra? > > > > > > Who discovered that there > > > is no edge to the universe? > > > > > > Did they send Columbus to look?? > > > > > > They will have you believe that > > > the universe is infinite. That is just > > > a ploy to have you believe... > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > Get it? It's a con! > > > > > > con > > > kän/ > > > > > > 1. > > > persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception. > > > > > > noun > > > noun: con; plural noun: cons > > > > > > 1. > > > an instance of deceiving or tricking someone. > > > > > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people > > > from trying to convince everyone that > > > there is no edge to the universe? > > > > > > Why are they trying to deceive you? > > > > > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it. > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > Keep in mind... > > that the question is not, > > whether or not > > there is an edge > > to the universe.. > > > > the question is, > > Why the insistence > > by the 'scientific community' that > > "There is no edge to the universe"? > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > the unchallengeable. > > ...i don't want to go off topic but... > it goes the same mantra for "There Is No Center To The Universe" > > not like if there is a human today capable of figuring out how to see the center.... > tools not yet invented...but it's a con neverless to say ...There Is No Center To The Universe > > or There Is No Edge To The Universe. > > The tradgey is that there are proffesors teaching this stuff to kids today. > > the question is... > Why the insistence > by the 'scientific community' > to tell everyone.. > "There is no edge to the universe"? > > Why? > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. I'll tell you Why... it is a pattern with 'these people', (the 'scientific community') When they say..."There is no...." it means you are not suppose to question it any further. When they say "There Is No Edge To The Universe".. they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is an edge. If they say "There is no Before." they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a before. If they say "There Is No Center To The Universe".. they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a center of the universe. The truth is...they don't know where the fuck the center is at! They don't even know how to fuckin look for it. They don't have the tools to look for it. And they don't want you to ask anymore. And if you dare ask...they'll fuckin shoot you! The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-09 15:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5668BD6D.33EC@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #371698 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe". > > > > > > > > How many times have you heard that? > > > > > > > > It seems... > > > > there is a small group of people.. > > > > in the 'scientific community'.. > > > > there is this ..belief or opinion, that > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > They, go as far as telling everyone > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > They will get together > > > > and come up with > > > > all kinds of explanations, > > > > and numbers, to Why and How > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > It's like a mantra. > > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > > > > > And if you disagree with them... > > > > they will have you shot! > > > > > > > > So, why the mantra? > > > > > > > > Who discovered that there > > > > is no edge to the universe? > > > > > > > > Did they send Columbus to look?? > > > > > > > > They will have you believe that > > > > the universe is infinite. That is just > > > > a ploy to have you believe... > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > Get it? It's a con! > > > > > > > > con > > > > kän/ > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception. > > > > > > > > noun > > > > noun: con; plural noun: cons > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > an instance of deceiving or tricking someone. > > > > > > > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people > > > > from trying to convince everyone that > > > > there is no edge to the universe? > > > > > > > > Why are they trying to deceive you? > > > > > > > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it. > > > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > > > Keep in mind... > > > that the question is not, > > > whether or not > > > there is an edge > > > to the universe.. > > > > > > the question is, > > > Why the insistence > > > by the 'scientific community' that > > > "There is no edge to the universe"? > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > ...i don't want to go off topic but... > > it goes the same mantra for "There Is No Center To The Universe" > > > > not like if there is a human today capable of figuring out how to see the center.... > > tools not yet invented...but it's a con neverless to say ...There Is No Center To The Universe > > > > or There Is No Edge To The Universe. > > > > The tradgey is that there are proffesors teaching this stuff to kids today. > > > > the question is... > > Why the insistence > > by the 'scientific community' > > to tell everyone.. > > "There is no edge to the universe"? > > > > Why? > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > the unchallengeable. > > I'll tell you Why... > > it is a pattern with 'these people', (the 'scientific community') > > When they say..."There is no...." > > it means you are not suppose to question it any further. > > When they say "There Is No Edge To The Universe".. > > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is an edge. > > If they say "There is no Before." > > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a before. > > If they say "There Is No Center To The Universe".. > > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a center of the universe. > > The truth is...they don't know where the fuck the center is at! They don't even know how to > fuckin look for it. They don't have the tools to look for it. And they don't want you to ask anymore. > > And if you dare ask...they'll fuckin shoot you! > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. lemme put it differently... the 'scientific community' has a choice...either to say, "There Is No Edge To The Universe" or to say "There Is An Edge To The Universe" if they choose the latter.. then everybody would be asking... "What is on the other side of the edge????" To avoid having to answer questions they have no answers too, they decided to say... "There Is No Edge To The Universe, Motherfucker"! The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-15 00:01 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <566FC8EA.DD6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #371717 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe". > > > > > > > > > > How many times have you heard that? > > > > > > > > > > It seems... > > > > > there is a small group of people.. > > > > > in the 'scientific community'.. > > > > > there is this ..belief or opinion, that > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > > > They, go as far as telling everyone > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > > > They will get together > > > > > and come up with > > > > > all kinds of explanations, > > > > > and numbers, to Why and How > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > > > It's like a mantra. > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > > > > > > > And if you disagree with them... > > > > > they will have you shot! > > > > > > > > > > So, why the mantra? > > > > > > > > > > Who discovered that there > > > > > is no edge to the universe? > > > > > > > > > > Did they send Columbus to look?? > > > > > > > > > > They will have you believe that > > > > > the universe is infinite. That is just > > > > > a ploy to have you believe... > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > > > Get it? It's a con! > > > > > > > > > > con > > > > > kän/ > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception. > > > > > > > > > > noun > > > > > noun: con; plural noun: cons > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > an instance of deceiving or tricking someone. > > > > > > > > > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people > > > > > from trying to convince everyone that > > > > > there is no edge to the universe? > > > > > > > > > > Why are they trying to deceive you? > > > > > > > > > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it. > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > > > > > Keep in mind... > > > > that the question is not, > > > > whether or not > > > > there is an edge > > > > to the universe.. > > > > > > > > the question is, > > > > Why the insistence > > > > by the 'scientific community' that > > > > "There is no edge to the universe"? > > > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > > > ...i don't want to go off topic but... > > > it goes the same mantra for "There Is No Center To The Universe" > > > > > > not like if there is a human today capable of figuring out how to see the center.... > > > tools not yet invented...but it's a con neverless to say ...There Is No Center To The Universe > > > > > > or There Is No Edge To The Universe. > > > > > > The tradgey is that there are proffesors teaching this stuff to kids today. > > > > > > the question is... > > > Why the insistence > > > by the 'scientific community' > > > to tell everyone.. > > > "There is no edge to the universe"? > > > > > > Why? > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > I'll tell you Why... > > > > it is a pattern with 'these people', (the 'scientific community') > > > > When they say..."There is no...." > > > > it means you are not suppose to question it any further. > > > > When they say "There Is No Edge To The Universe".. > > > > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is an edge. > > > > If they say "There is no Before." > > > > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a before. > > > > If they say "There Is No Center To The Universe".. > > > > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a center of the universe. > > > > The truth is...they don't know where the fuck the center is at! They don't even know how to > > fuckin look for it. They don't have the tools to look for it. And they don't want you to ask anymore. > > > > And if you dare ask...they'll fuckin shoot you! > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > the unchallengeable. > > lemme put it differently... > > the 'scientific community' has > a choice...either to say, > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe" > > or to say > > "There Is An Edge To The Universe" > > if they choose the latter.. > > then everybody would be asking... > > "What is on the other side of the edge????" > > To avoid having to answer questions they have no answers too, > they decided to say... > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe, Motherfucker"! > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. Okay...yous seem to be having trouble...picturing an edge to the universe. How about... take the Universe.. the whole Universe.. what I mean is the entire Universe and everyhting that is contain in it. Everything in the entire universe that is contained in it. From top to bottom. From one edge of the entire universe to the other side of the entire universe. The whole shabam! Eveything in it!! Everything contained in it. 'contained in it.' contained in
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-15 08:44 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <CIednapTN82tuu3LnZ2dnUU7-XWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #372059 |
On 12/15/15 2:01 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > Okay...yous seem to be having trouble...picturing an edge to the > universe. And rightly so, as there is no edge. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-15 22:44 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5671083C.135D@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #372059 |
David DeLaney wrote: > > On 2015-12-15, Stephen Allcroft <stephenallcroft@lycos.co.uk> wrote: > > Starmaker wants an end to the universe. He's looking in the spacial > > dimensions. He won't find it there. It's the other dimension where the end is > > going to be. > > so i hear you saying > TIME MUST HAVE A STOP! > ? > > Dave, will callback for food > -- > \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower > It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see > Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> > http://gatekeeper.vic.com/~dbd/ -net.legends/Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K. Well of course Time must have a stop... Time stops every second, and then it stars again. Eventually, Time will begin to unwind... and when no one wounds the clock..Time will stop.. just about the time it reaches the edge.. just in time. Beyond the edge there is no time.. as there was no time before the begining. The Timemaker It's not tick tock, it's tic, tic, tic...tic.
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-16 08:38 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mtWdnVEkxqL86uzLnZ2dnUU7-f-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #372127 |
On 12/16/15 12:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-17 15:00 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56733E8C.C68@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #372143 |
Sam Wormley wrote: > > On 12/16/15 12:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Time stops every second, and then it stars again. In other words... you can take a simple camera and capture.. a moment in time. A Kodak Moment. Or, you can take a movie camera and watch the world go by one frame at a time. If you can slow down a ...tic to a point where the next tic does not tic... time stops. Have you ever listen to a clock's last tic? Does it slow down before the last tic, or does it just stop ticking?? Where's Einstein, i gotta ask him..see what he says... He's probably say..."GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!!!" Then I'll have to tell him, "You fuckin commie!!"
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-17 15:13 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5673417D.715F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #372268 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Sam Wormley wrote: > > > > On 12/16/15 12:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Time stops every second, and then it stars again. > > In other words... > > you can take a simple camera > and capture.. > a moment in time. > > A Kodak Moment. > > Or, you can take a movie camera > and watch the world > go by > one frame at a time. > > If you can slow down a ...tic > > to a point where the next tic > does not tic... > > time stops. > > Have you ever listen to a clock's last tic? > > Does it slow down before the last tic, or does it just stop ticking?? The reason why you cannot travel into the future is because.. time stops. You cannot send messages into the future because the future does not exist...yet. The future is created..each second, to keep you from jumping ahead of ...Time. When it comes to the subject of Time....I'm a fuckin expert!
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-17 18:30 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <BO6dnTmCVZAkzu7LnZ2dnUU7-ROdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #372271 |
On 12/17/15 5:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > The reason why you cannot travel into the future is because.. > time stops. Try not to be so stooopid -- we are traveling into the future right now. > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/World_line.svg -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-17 17:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56736520.4671@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #372278 |
Sam Wormley wrote: > > On 12/17/15 5:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > The reason why you cannot travel into the future is because.. > > time stops. > > Try not to be so stooopid -- we are traveling into the future > right now. > > all at the same time? one second at a time? can i jump in front of you, i want to see you arriving.
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-08 21:47 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <AYGdnee6PrjyOfrLnZ2dnUU7-VudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #371586 |
On 12/8/15 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> It's like a mantra.
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> "There is no edge to the universe"
Perhaps that is because there IS NO EDGE to the universe
and some people have to hear it more than once before the get it.
No Center
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html
Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html
WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html
WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html
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| From | Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> |
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| Date | 2015-12-09 16:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n49lhp$4ni$4@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #371629 |
Sam Wormley > On 12/8/15 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >> It's like a mantra. >> "There is no edge to the universe" >> "There is no edge to the universe" >> "There is no edge to the universe" > > Perhaps that is because there IS NO EDGE to the universe and some > people have to hear it more than once before the get it. There must be, as that Universe allegedly got created from a restrictive delimited area, territory or control volume. That MUST have at least one continuous edge. (allocated Normal vector to it, of course) (check you Mathematics background. And make sure)
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| From | fuller.david@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-12-09 09:38 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56a31bd6-8077-41ad-a8c7-4f210066d200@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #371586 |
The (spatial edge receding away @ c) is time. (4 * pi * (10^(-7))) / (((4 * pi) * c * (10^(-7)))^2) = 8.85418782 × 10^-12 s^2 / m^2
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| From | gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-09 12:26 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n49rpl$neo$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #371586 |
On 12/8/2015 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> "There Is No Edge To The Universe".
>
> How many times have you heard that?
>
> It seems...
> there is a small group of people..
> in the 'scientific community'..
> there is this ..belief or opinion, that
> "There is no edge to the universe".
> They, go as far as telling everyone
> "There is no edge to the universe".
>
> They will get together
> and come up with
> all kinds of explanations,
> and numbers, to Why and How
> "There is no edge to the universe".
>
> It's like a mantra.
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> "There is no edge to the universe"
>
> And if you disagree with them...
> they will have you shot!
ask them,
"if there is no edge to the universe, how can it keep expanding ? "
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-10 09:52 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <LI6dnfvDuNdfAvTLnZ2dnUU7-SudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #371586 |
On 12/8/15 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > "There Is No Edge To The Universe". You are correct -- no edge. How can the Universe be infinite if it was all concentrated into a point at the Big Bang? > http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> |
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| Date | 2015-12-10 16:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n4c7li$79n$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #371753 |
Il giorno mercoledì Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:52:33 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> ha scritto: > On 12/8/15 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >> "There Is No Edge To The Universe". > You are correct -- no edge. > How can the Universe be infinite if it was all concentrated into a > point at the Big Bang? >> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html You ask the wrong question, dude. According to the statement you quote, you should ask "how can the Universe not have an edge "if it was all concentrated into a point at the big bang" ". Your arguments comes out of your sorry ass.
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| From | fuller.david@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-12-10 08:51 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <457ad2c7-16b9-4588-a844-da1c9cd1901e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #371753 |
(((4 * pi * c * (10^(-7)))^4) / (1.60292205 * (10^11))) / ((4 * pi) / 100) = 1 m^4 / s^4 CMBR is energy leaving / increasing entropy Time, the edge of the future, is the spatial horizon that the other side cannot beyond.
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-10 17:31 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ba06e7c7-720a-4e61-8940-39c89b8984f4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #371586 |
On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 12:23:06 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote: > "There Is No Edge To The Universe". > > How many times have you heard that? > > It seems... > there is a small group of people.. > in the 'scientific community'.. > there is this ..belief or opinion, that > "There is no edge to the universe". > > They, go as far as telling everyone > "There is no edge to the universe". > > They will get together > and come up with > all kinds of explanations, > and numbers, to Why and How > "There is no edge to the universe". > > It's like a mantra. > "There is no edge to the universe" > "There is no edge to the universe" > "There is no edge to the universe" > > And if you disagree with them... > they will have you shot! > > So, why the mantra? > > Who discovered that there > is no edge to the universe? > > Did they send Columbus to look?? > > They will have you believe that > the universe is infinite. That is just > a ploy to have you believe... > "There is no edge to the universe". > > Get it? It's a con! > > > con > kän/ > > 1. > persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception. > > noun > noun: con; plural noun: cons > > 1. > an instance of deceiving or tricking someone. > > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people > from trying to convince everyone that > there is no edge to the universe? > > Why are they trying to deceive you? > > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it. > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. The edge of our universe is dictated by what can be measured. The distance keeps increasing- there is no edge. There is even not a need to measure distances in terms of c.
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-11 17:12 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e7b1090e-da57-4d74-bbb1-55c1197253e7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #371586 |
On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 12:23:06 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote: > "There Is No Edge To The Universe". > > How many times have you heard that? > > It seems... > there is a small group of people.. > in the 'scientific community'.. > there is this ..belief or opinion, that > "There is no edge to the universe". > > They, go as far as telling everyone > "There is no edge to the universe". > > They will get together > and come up with > all kinds of explanations, > and numbers, to Why and How > "There is no edge to the universe". > > It's like a mantra. > "There is no edge to the universe" > "There is no edge to the universe" > "There is no edge to the universe" > > And if you disagree with them... > they will have you shot! > > So, why the mantra? > > Who discovered that there > is no edge to the universe? > > Did they send Columbus to look?? > > They will have you believe that > the universe is infinite. That is just > a ploy to have you believe... > "There is no edge to the universe". > > Get it? It's a con! > > > con > kän/ > > 1. > persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception. > > noun > noun: con; plural noun: cons > > 1. > an instance of deceiving or tricking someone. > > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people > from trying to convince everyone that > there is no edge to the universe? > > Why are they trying to deceive you? > > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it. > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. There is no edge.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-17 16:11 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56734F38.54D6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #371586 |
Sam Wormley wrote: > > On 12/17/15 12:41 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 9:32:41 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > >> On 12/17/15 11:24 AM, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > >>> Think of the edge of moving steam .Think of being in a fog,and try to think of its edge.That has to tell you something.TreBert > >> > >> > >> That tells me you don't appreciate the fact that the universe has no > >> edge, reber. Try learning from these first two links. Try it! > >> > >> No Center > >> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html > >> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html > >> > >> Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial > >> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm > >> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html > >> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html > >> > >> WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory > >> http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html > >> > >> WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology > >> http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > >> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > >> community, and physics-related social issues. > > > > Sam I see the universe's edge the same way I see the edge of Earth's atmosphere as it sheds energy,hydrogen into space.Edge is not the best word.How about calling it universe horizon.? Outer surface.Area with least curvature.TreBert > > > > No, reber. Read and learn, reber. Read and learn. > > No Center > http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html > http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html > > Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial > http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm > http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html > http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html > > WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory > http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html > > WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology > http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html > > -- > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > community, and physics-related social issues. Looks a lot like my photos of the big bang...including a center. http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg at least i have photos....not stupid line drawing from ucla drug addicts. Nobody, I mean NOBODY has pictures like I do!!! http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg Nobody! Why is that? Cause i'm a fuckin genuies! My IQ must be in the trillions...
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