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There Is No Edge To The Universe

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2015-12-08 10:23 -0800
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  There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-08 10:23 -0800
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 13:04 -0600
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:17 +0000
        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 17:54 -0500
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:57 +0000
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-08 19:15 -0600
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:27 -0600
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-09 07:20 +0100
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 08:56 -0600
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-12-09 15:11 +0000
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:38 +0000
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:41 -0600
                  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:51 +0000
                    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:54 -0600
                      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 17:00 +0000
                        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 12:35 -0600
                          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 18:52 +0000
                            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 13:01 -0600
                              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-09 22:15 +0100
                                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 15:35 -0600
                              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 21:55 +0000
                                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 15:59 -0600
                                  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 22:13 +0000
                                    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-09 20:35 -0600
                                      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-10 15:33 +0000
                                    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 01:20 -0500
                                      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-10 08:37 +0100
                              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-09 16:07 -0600
                              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 15:22 -0800
                                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 21:13 -0600
                                  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 19:47 -0800
                                    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 21:51 -0600
                                      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 22:06 -0800
                                        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-09 22:51 -0800
                                          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 00:04 -0800
                                            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-10 12:32 -0600
                                            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 11:29 -0800
                                              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 22:02 -0800
                                                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-11 07:48 +0100
                                              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 13:54 -0800
                                                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 22:55 -0600
                                                  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-12 07:54 +0100
                                                    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 09:16 -0600
                                                      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-12 19:47 +0100
                                                      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2015-12-13 09:06 +0100
                                                        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 07:01 -0500
                                                        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-13 19:16 -0800
                                                          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-14 06:35 +0100
                                                            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-12-14 09:09 -0800
                                                              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-15 04:25 +0100
                                                                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-19 07:14 -0800
                                                                  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-21 06:03 +0100
                                                      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-21 05:45 +0100
                                                        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-22 14:03 -0800
                                                    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-12 17:46 -0800
                                                      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-17 18:31 -0800
        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:26 -0600
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:38 +0000
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:40 -0600
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:44 +0000
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:52 -0600
                  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 17:27 +0000
                    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 12:37 -0600
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 18:01 -0500
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-09 11:38 -0600
        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 12:13 -0800
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-10 12:30 -0600
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 11:26 -0800
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-18 06:45 -0600
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-18 10:51 -0800
                  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-19 21:35 -0800
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe chanB4 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-12-18 16:12 -0600
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 12:56 -0800
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-18 14:28 -0600
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-08 17:42 -0800
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-12-09 06:42 -0500
        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-11 22:39 -0600
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-08 19:46 -0800
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-08 22:50 -0800
        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 09:09 -0600
        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 12:07 -0800
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 15:46 -0800
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 00:01 -0800
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 08:44 -0600
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 22:44 -0800
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 08:38 -0600
                  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 15:00 -0800
                    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 15:13 -0800
                      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 18:30 -0600
                        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 17:45 -0800
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:47 -0600
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:40 +0000
    There Is No Edge To The Universe fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-12-09 09:38 -0800
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-09 12:26 -0600
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 09:52 -0600
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-10 16:01 +0000
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-12-10 08:51 -0800
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-10 17:31 -0800
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-11 17:12 -0800
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 16:11 -0800
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 16:28 -0800
        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 22:58 -0800
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 23:14 -0800
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 07:57 -0600
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-18 11:00 -0800
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-18 22:13 -0800
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-20 16:52 -0800
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-20 16:54 -0800
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-25 08:40 -0800
                  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-27 23:01 -0800
                    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-29 10:20 -0800
                      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 12:31 -0600
                        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-29 11:31 -0800
                          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 14:19 -0600
                            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-29 13:37 -0800
                            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-29 21:46 +0000
                          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-29 13:13 -0800
                            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-10 13:34 -0800
                  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-01 18:14 -0800
                    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-03 22:52 -0800
                      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-10 13:28 -0800
                  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-06 12:23 -0800
                    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 15:12 -0600

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#371698

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-09 12:07 -0800
Message-ID<56688A19.1BFF@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#371636
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe".
> > >
> > > How many times have you heard that?
> > >
> > > It seems...
> > > there is a small group of people..
> > > in the 'scientific community'..
> > > there is this ..belief or opinion, that
> > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > >
> > > They, go as far as telling everyone
> > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > >
> > > They will get together
> > > and come up with
> > > all kinds of explanations,
> > > and numbers, to Why and How
> > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > >
> > > It's like a mantra.
> > > "There is no edge to the universe"
> > > "There is no edge to the universe"
> > > "There is no edge to the universe"
> > >
> > > And if you disagree with them...
> > > they will have you shot!
> > >
> > > So, why the mantra?
> > >
> > > Who discovered that there
> > > is no edge to the universe?
> > >
> > > Did they send Columbus to look??
> > >
> > > They will have you believe that
> > > the universe is infinite. That is just
> > > a ploy to have you believe...
> > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > >
> > > Get it? It's a con!
> > >
> > > con
> > > kän/
> > >
> > >     1.
> > >     persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception.
> > >
> > > noun
> > > noun: con; plural noun: cons
> > >
> > >     1.
> > >     an instance of deceiving or tricking someone.
> > >
> > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people
> > > from trying to convince everyone that
> > >  there is no edge to the universe?
> > >
> > > Why are they  trying to deceive you?
> > >
> > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it.
> > >
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > Keep in mind...
> > that the question is not,
> > whether or not
> > there is an edge
> > to the universe..
> >
> > the question is,
> > Why the insistence
> > by the 'scientific community' that
> > "There is no edge to the universe"?
> >
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
> 
> ...i don't want to go off topic but...
> it goes the same mantra for "There Is No Center To The Universe"
> 
> not like if there is a human today capable of figuring out how to see the center....
> tools not yet invented...but it's a con neverless to say ...There Is No Center To The Universe
> 
> or There Is No Edge To The Universe.
> 
> The tradgey is that there are proffesors teaching this stuff to kids today.
> 
>  the question is...
>  Why the insistence
>  by the 'scientific community'
> to tell everyone..
>  "There is no edge to the universe"?
> 
> Why?
> 
>  The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.



I'll tell you Why...

it is a pattern with 'these people', (the 'scientific community')




When they say..."There is no...."

it means you are not suppose to question it any further.


When they say "There Is No Edge To The Universe"..

they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is an edge.


If they say "There is no Before."

they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a before.


If they say "There Is No Center To The Universe"..


they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a center of the universe.


The truth is...they don't know where the fuck the center is at! They don't even know how to
fuckin look for it. They don't have the tools to look for it. And they don't want you to ask anymore.

And if you dare ask...they'll fuckin shoot you!


The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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#371717

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-09 15:46 -0800
Message-ID<5668BD6D.33EC@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#371698
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe".
> > > >
> > > > How many times have you heard that?
> > > >
> > > > It seems...
> > > > there is a small group of people..
> > > > in the 'scientific community'..
> > > > there is this ..belief or opinion, that
> > > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > > >
> > > > They, go as far as telling everyone
> > > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > > >
> > > > They will get together
> > > > and come up with
> > > > all kinds of explanations,
> > > > and numbers, to Why and How
> > > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > > >
> > > > It's like a mantra.
> > > > "There is no edge to the universe"
> > > > "There is no edge to the universe"
> > > > "There is no edge to the universe"
> > > >
> > > > And if you disagree with them...
> > > > they will have you shot!
> > > >
> > > > So, why the mantra?
> > > >
> > > > Who discovered that there
> > > > is no edge to the universe?
> > > >
> > > > Did they send Columbus to look??
> > > >
> > > > They will have you believe that
> > > > the universe is infinite. That is just
> > > > a ploy to have you believe...
> > > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > > >
> > > > Get it? It's a con!
> > > >
> > > > con
> > > > kän/
> > > >
> > > >     1.
> > > >     persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception.
> > > >
> > > > noun
> > > > noun: con; plural noun: cons
> > > >
> > > >     1.
> > > >     an instance of deceiving or tricking someone.
> > > >
> > > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people
> > > > from trying to convince everyone that
> > > >  there is no edge to the universe?
> > > >
> > > > Why are they  trying to deceive you?
> > > >
> > > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it.
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > Keep in mind...
> > > that the question is not,
> > > whether or not
> > > there is an edge
> > > to the universe..
> > >
> > > the question is,
> > > Why the insistence
> > > by the 'scientific community' that
> > > "There is no edge to the universe"?
> > >
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > ...i don't want to go off topic but...
> > it goes the same mantra for "There Is No Center To The Universe"
> >
> > not like if there is a human today capable of figuring out how to see the center....
> > tools not yet invented...but it's a con neverless to say ...There Is No Center To The Universe
> >
> > or There Is No Edge To The Universe.
> >
> > The tradgey is that there are proffesors teaching this stuff to kids today.
> >
> >  the question is...
> >  Why the insistence
> >  by the 'scientific community'
> > to tell everyone..
> >  "There is no edge to the universe"?
> >
> > Why?
> >
> >  The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> I'll tell you Why...
> 
> it is a pattern with 'these people', (the 'scientific community')
> 
> When they say..."There is no...."
> 
> it means you are not suppose to question it any further.
> 
> When they say "There Is No Edge To The Universe"..
> 
> they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is an edge.
> 
> If they say "There is no Before."
> 
> they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a before.
> 
> If they say "There Is No Center To The Universe"..
> 
> they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a center of the universe.
> 
> The truth is...they don't know where the fuck the center is at! They don't even know how to
> fuckin look for it. They don't have the tools to look for it. And they don't want you to ask anymore.
> 
> And if you dare ask...they'll fuckin shoot you!
> 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.


lemme put it differently...

the 'scientific community' has 
a choice...either to say,

"There Is No Edge To The Universe"

or to say

"There Is An Edge To The Universe"


if they choose the latter..

then everybody would be asking...


"What is on the other side of the edge????"


To avoid having to answer questions they have no answers too,
they decided to say...

"There Is No Edge To The Universe, Motherfucker"!




The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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#372059

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-15 00:01 -0800
Message-ID<566FC8EA.DD6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#371717
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe".
> > > > >
> > > > > How many times have you heard that?
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems...
> > > > > there is a small group of people..
> > > > > in the 'scientific community'..
> > > > > there is this ..belief or opinion, that
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > > > >
> > > > > They, go as far as telling everyone
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > > > >
> > > > > They will get together
> > > > > and come up with
> > > > > all kinds of explanations,
> > > > > and numbers, to Why and How
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > > > >
> > > > > It's like a mantra.
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe"
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe"
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe"
> > > > >
> > > > > And if you disagree with them...
> > > > > they will have you shot!
> > > > >
> > > > > So, why the mantra?
> > > > >
> > > > > Who discovered that there
> > > > > is no edge to the universe?
> > > > >
> > > > > Did they send Columbus to look??
> > > > >
> > > > > They will have you believe that
> > > > > the universe is infinite. That is just
> > > > > a ploy to have you believe...
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > > > >
> > > > > Get it? It's a con!
> > > > >
> > > > > con
> > > > > kän/
> > > > >
> > > > >     1.
> > > > >     persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception.
> > > > >
> > > > > noun
> > > > > noun: con; plural noun: cons
> > > > >
> > > > >     1.
> > > > >     an instance of deceiving or tricking someone.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people
> > > > > from trying to convince everyone that
> > > > >  there is no edge to the universe?
> > > > >
> > > > > Why are they  trying to deceive you?
> > > > >
> > > > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > > the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > Keep in mind...
> > > > that the question is not,
> > > > whether or not
> > > > there is an edge
> > > > to the universe..
> > > >
> > > > the question is,
> > > > Why the insistence
> > > > by the 'scientific community' that
> > > > "There is no edge to the universe"?
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > ...i don't want to go off topic but...
> > > it goes the same mantra for "There Is No Center To The Universe"
> > >
> > > not like if there is a human today capable of figuring out how to see the center....
> > > tools not yet invented...but it's a con neverless to say ...There Is No Center To The Universe
> > >
> > > or There Is No Edge To The Universe.
> > >
> > > The tradgey is that there are proffesors teaching this stuff to kids today.
> > >
> > >  the question is...
> > >  Why the insistence
> > >  by the 'scientific community'
> > > to tell everyone..
> > >  "There is no edge to the universe"?
> > >
> > > Why?
> > >
> > >  The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
> > I'll tell you Why...
> >
> > it is a pattern with 'these people', (the 'scientific community')
> >
> > When they say..."There is no...."
> >
> > it means you are not suppose to question it any further.
> >
> > When they say "There Is No Edge To The Universe"..
> >
> > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is an edge.
> >
> > If they say "There is no Before."
> >
> > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a before.
> >
> > If they say "There Is No Center To The Universe"..
> >
> > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a center of the universe.
> >
> > The truth is...they don't know where the fuck the center is at! They don't even know how to
> > fuckin look for it. They don't have the tools to look for it. And they don't want you to ask anymore.
> >
> > And if you dare ask...they'll fuckin shoot you!
> >
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
> 
> lemme put it differently...
> 
> the 'scientific community' has
> a choice...either to say,
> 
> "There Is No Edge To The Universe"
> 
> or to say
> 
> "There Is An Edge To The Universe"
> 
> if they choose the latter..
> 
> then everybody would be asking...
> 
> "What is on the other side of the edge????"
> 
> To avoid having to answer questions they have no answers too,
> they decided to say...
> 
> "There Is No Edge To The Universe, Motherfucker"!
> 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.



Okay...yous seem to be having trouble...picturing
an edge to the universe.

How about...

take the Universe..
the whole Universe..
what I mean is
the entire Universe
and everyhting
that is contain in it.

Everything in the entire
universe that is contained in it.

From top to bottom.

From one edge of the
entire universe to
the other side of the
entire universe.

The whole shabam!

Eveything in it!!

Everything contained in it.


'contained   in    it.'


contained


in

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#372074

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-15 08:44 -0600
Message-ID<CIednapTN82tuu3LnZ2dnUU7-XWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#372059
On 12/15/15 2:01 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Okay...yous seem to be having trouble...picturing an edge to the
> universe.


   And rightly so, as there is no edge.



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#372127

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-15 22:44 -0800
Message-ID<5671083C.135D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#372059
David DeLaney wrote:
> 
> On 2015-12-15, Stephen Allcroft <stephenallcroft@lycos.co.uk> wrote:
> > Starmaker wants an end to the universe. He's looking in the spacial
> > dimensions. He won't find it there. It's the other dimension where the end is
> > going to be.
> 
> so i hear you saying
> TIME MUST HAVE A STOP!
> ?
> 
> Dave, will callback for food
> --
> \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower
> It's not the clock that slows the hour  The definition's plain for anyone to see
> Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
> http://gatekeeper.vic.com/~dbd/ -net.legends/Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.



Well of course Time must have a stop...
Time stops every second, and then it stars again.

Eventually, Time will begin to unwind...

and when no one wounds the clock..Time will stop..


just about the time it reaches the edge..

just in time.

Beyond the edge
there is no time..

as there was no time before the begining.


The Timemaker


It's not tick tock, it's tic, tic, tic...tic.

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#372143

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 08:38 -0600
Message-ID<mtWdnVEkxqL86uzLnZ2dnUU7-f-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#372127
On 12/16/15 12:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Time stops every second, and then it stars again.


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#372268

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-17 15:00 -0800
Message-ID<56733E8C.C68@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#372143
Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 12/16/15 12:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Time stops every second, and then it stars again.

In other words...

you can take a simple camera
and capture..
a moment in time.

A Kodak Moment.


Or, you can take a movie camera
and watch the world
go by
one frame at a time.

If you can slow down a ...tic

to a point where the next tic
does not tic...

time stops.

Have you ever listen to a clock's last tic?


Does it slow down before the last tic, or does it just stop ticking??


Where's Einstein, i gotta ask him..see what he says...

He's probably say..."GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!!!"

Then I'll have to tell him, "You fuckin commie!!"

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#372271

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-17 15:13 -0800
Message-ID<5673417D.715F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#372268
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Sam Wormley wrote:
> >
> > On 12/16/15 12:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Time stops every second, and then it stars again.
> 
> In other words...
> 
> you can take a simple camera
> and capture..
> a moment in time.
> 
> A Kodak Moment.
> 
> Or, you can take a movie camera
> and watch the world
> go by
> one frame at a time.
> 
> If you can slow down a ...tic
> 
> to a point where the next tic
> does not tic...
> 
> time stops.
> 
> Have you ever listen to a clock's last tic?
> 
> Does it slow down before the last tic, or does it just stop ticking??


The reason why you cannot travel into the future is because..
time stops.

You cannot send messages into the future because the future does not
exist...yet.

The future is created..each second, to keep you from jumping ahead of
...Time.

When it comes to the subject of Time....I'm a fuckin expert!

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#372278

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-17 18:30 -0600
Message-ID<BO6dnTmCVZAkzu7LnZ2dnUU7-ROdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#372271
On 12/17/15 5:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The reason why you cannot travel into the future is because..
> time stops.


   Try not to be so stooopid -- we are traveling into the future
   right now.

> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/World_line.svg





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#372282

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-17 17:45 -0800
Message-ID<56736520.4671@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#372278
Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 12/17/15 5:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The reason why you cannot travel into the future is because..
> > time stops.
> 
>    Try not to be so stooopid -- we are traveling into the future
>    right now.
> 
> 
 

all at the same time? one second at a time? can i jump in front of you,
i want to see you arriving.

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#371629

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-08 21:47 -0600
Message-ID<AYGdnee6PrjyOfrLnZ2dnUU7-VudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#371586
On 12/8/15 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> It's like a mantra.
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> "There is no edge to the universe"


   Perhaps that is because there IS NO EDGE to the universe
   and some people have to hear it more than once before the get it.

   No Center
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html

   Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html

   WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory
     http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html

   WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology
     http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html


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#371662

FromPlexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org>
Date2015-12-09 16:40 +0000
Message-ID<n49lhp$4ni$4@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#371629
Sam Wormley

> On 12/8/15 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> It's like a mantra.
>> "There is no edge to the universe"
>> "There is no edge to the universe"
>> "There is no edge to the universe"
> 
>    Perhaps that is because there IS NO EDGE to the universe and some
>    people have to hear it more than once before the get it.

There must be, as that Universe allegedly got created from a restrictive
delimited area, territory or control volume. That MUST have at least one
continuous edge. (allocated Normal vector to it, of course) (check you
Mathematics background. And make sure)

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#371675

Fromfuller.david@hotmail.com
Date2015-12-09 09:38 -0800
Message-ID<56a31bd6-8077-41ad-a8c7-4f210066d200@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#371586
The (spatial edge receding away @ c)  is time. 

(4 * pi * (10^(-7))) / (((4 * pi) * c * (10^(-7)))^2) =
8.85418782 × 10^-12 s^2 / m^2

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#371683

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-12-09 12:26 -0600
Message-ID<n49rpl$neo$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#371586
On 12/8/2015 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> "There Is No Edge To The Universe".
>
> How many times have you heard that?
>
> It seems...
> there is a small group of people..
> in the 'scientific community'..
> there is this ..belief or opinion, that
> "There is no edge to the universe".

> They, go as far as telling everyone
> "There is no edge to the universe".
>
> They will get together
> and come up with
> all kinds of explanations,
> and numbers, to Why and How
> "There is no edge to the universe".
>
> It's like a mantra.
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> "There is no edge to the universe"
>
> And if you disagree with them...
> they will have you shot!


ask them,
    "if there is no edge to the universe, how can it keep expanding ? "

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#371753

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-10 09:52 -0600
Message-ID<LI6dnfvDuNdfAvTLnZ2dnUU7-SudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#371586
On 12/8/15 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> "There Is No Edge To The Universe".


   You are correct -- no edge.

   How can the Universe be infinite if it was all concentrated into
   a point at the Big Bang?
> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html


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#371755

FromPlexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org>
Date2015-12-10 16:01 +0000
Message-ID<n4c7li$79n$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#371753
Il giorno mercoledì Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:52:33 -0600, Sam Wormley
<swormley1@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On 12/8/15 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> "There Is No Edge To The Universe".
>    You are correct -- no edge.
>    How can the Universe be infinite if it was all concentrated into a
>    point at the Big Bang?
>> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html

You ask the wrong question, dude. According to the statement you quote, 
you should ask "how can the Universe not have an edge "if it was all 
concentrated into a point at the big bang" ". Your arguments comes out of 
your sorry ass.

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#371760

Fromfuller.david@hotmail.com
Date2015-12-10 08:51 -0800
Message-ID<457ad2c7-16b9-4588-a844-da1c9cd1901e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#371753
(((4 * pi * c * (10^(-7)))^4) / (1.60292205 * (10^11))) / ((4 * pi) / 100) =
1 m^4 / s^4

CMBR is energy leaving / increasing entropy

Time, the edge of the future, is the  spatial horizon that the other side cannot beyond. 

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#371787

FromJohn Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com>
Date2015-12-10 17:31 -0800
Message-ID<ba06e7c7-720a-4e61-8940-39c89b8984f4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#371586
On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 12:23:06 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> "There Is No Edge To The Universe".
> 
> How many times have you heard that?
> 
> It seems...
> there is a small group of people..
> in the 'scientific community'..
> there is this ..belief or opinion, that
> "There is no edge to the universe".
> 
> They, go as far as telling everyone
> "There is no edge to the universe".
> 
> They will get together
> and come up with
> all kinds of explanations,
> and numbers, to Why and How
> "There is no edge to the universe".
> 
> It's like a mantra.
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> 
> And if you disagree with them...
> they will have you shot!
> 
> So, why the mantra?
> 
> Who discovered that there
> is no edge to the universe?
> 
> Did they send Columbus to look??
> 
> They will have you believe that
> the universe is infinite. That is just
> a ploy to have you believe...
> "There is no edge to the universe".
> 
> Get it? It's a con!
> 
> 
> con
> kän/
> 
>     1.
>     persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception.
>     
> noun
> noun: con; plural noun: cons
> 
>     1.
>     an instance of deceiving or tricking someone.
> 
> 
> The Question of course is...what is behind these people 
> from trying to convince everyone that
>  there is no edge to the universe?
> 
> Why are they  trying to deceive you?
> 
> 
> The truth is, they don't even want you to question it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

The edge of our universe is dictated by what can be measured.  The distance keeps increasing- there is no edge.  There is even not a need to measure distances in terms of c.

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#371853

FromJohn Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com>
Date2015-12-11 17:12 -0800
Message-ID<e7b1090e-da57-4d74-bbb1-55c1197253e7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#371586
On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 12:23:06 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> "There Is No Edge To The Universe".
> 
> How many times have you heard that?
> 
> It seems...
> there is a small group of people..
> in the 'scientific community'..
> there is this ..belief or opinion, that
> "There is no edge to the universe".
> 
> They, go as far as telling everyone
> "There is no edge to the universe".
> 
> They will get together
> and come up with
> all kinds of explanations,
> and numbers, to Why and How
> "There is no edge to the universe".
> 
> It's like a mantra.
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> "There is no edge to the universe"
> 
> And if you disagree with them...
> they will have you shot!
> 
> So, why the mantra?
> 
> Who discovered that there
> is no edge to the universe?
> 
> Did they send Columbus to look??
> 
> They will have you believe that
> the universe is infinite. That is just
> a ploy to have you believe...
> "There is no edge to the universe".
> 
> Get it? It's a con!
> 
> 
> con
> kän/
> 
>     1.
>     persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception.
>     
> noun
> noun: con; plural noun: cons
> 
>     1.
>     an instance of deceiving or tricking someone.
> 
> 
> The Question of course is...what is behind these people 
> from trying to convince everyone that
>  there is no edge to the universe?
> 
> Why are they  trying to deceive you?
> 
> 
> The truth is, they don't even want you to question it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

There is no edge.

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#372273

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-17 16:11 -0800
Message-ID<56734F38.54D6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#371586
Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 12/17/15 12:41 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 9:32:41 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> >> On 12/17/15 11:24 AM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> >>> Think of the edge of moving steam .Think of being in a fog,and try to think of its edge.That has to tell you something.TreBert
> >>
> >>
> >>     That tells me you don't appreciate the fact that the universe has no
> >>     edge, reber. Try learning from these first two links. Try it!
> >>
> >>     No Center
> >>       http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html
> >>       http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html
> >>
> >>     Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial
> >>       http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm
> >>       http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html
> >>       http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html
> >>
> >>     WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory
> >>       http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html
> >>
> >>     WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology
> >>       http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> >> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
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> >
> > Sam I see the universe's edge the same way I see the edge of Earth's atmosphere as it sheds energy,hydrogen into space.Edge is not the best word.How about calling it universe horizon.? Outer surface.Area with least curvature.TreBert
> >
> 
>    No, reber. Read and learn, reber. Read and learn.
> 
>    No Center
>      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html
>      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html
> 
>    Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial
>      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm
>      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html
>      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html
> 
>    WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory
>      http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html
> 
>    WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology
>      http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html
> 
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Looks a lot like my photos of the big bang...including a center.
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html


http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


at least i have photos....not stupid line drawing from ucla drug addicts.


Nobody, I mean NOBODY has pictures like I do!!!

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


Nobody!

Why is that?


Cause i'm a fuckin genuies!

My IQ must be in the trillions...

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