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INFINITY

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2015-11-10 23:55 -0800
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  INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-10 23:55 -0800
    Re: INFINITY HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-11-11 19:57 +1100
      Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 08:46 -0600
        Re: INFINITY "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 08:01 -0800
          Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-11 11:55 -0800
            Re: INFINITY David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-11-11 14:19 -0600
              Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-11 13:12 -0800
    Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 08:43 -0600
    Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-11 13:16 -0800
      Re: INFINITY gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-11 21:21 -0600
        Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-11 19:40 -0800
        Re: INFINITY je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-11-12 02:02 -0800
          Re: INFINITY "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 08:14 -0800
            Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-12 09:39 -0800
              Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 11:47 -0600
                Re: INFINITY "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 09:57 -0800
                  Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-12 23:25 -0800
                    Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 09:09 -0600
                      Re: INFINITY kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-13 15:52 -0500
                        Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 15:07 -0600
                        Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 15:11 -0600
                          Re: INFINITY kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-13 16:39 -0500
                            Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 16:11 -0600
                              Re: INFINITY Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-13 23:44 +0100
                              Re: INFINITY Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-13 14:57 -0800
                              Re: INFINITY kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-13 19:39 -0500
                                Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 18:50 -0600
                                  Re: INFINITY "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 17:19 -0800
                                    Re: INFINITY kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-13 21:07 -0500
                                  Re: INFINITY kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-14 04:39 -0500
                                Re: INFINITY pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-13 19:59 -0800
                            Re: INFINITY Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-13 14:48 -0800
                    Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-13 15:59 -0800
                      Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-14 11:46 -0800
                        Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-14 12:04 -0800
                          Re: INFINITY "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 12:54 -0800
                          Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-15 14:27 -0800
                            Re: INFINITY "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 14:45 -0800
                            Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-15 15:07 -0800
                              Re: INFINITY pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-15 15:23 -0800
                                Re: INFINITY "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 16:06 -0800
                                Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-15 16:23 -0800
                                  Re: INFINITY pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-15 20:01 -0800
                                    Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-15 21:56 -0800
                                      Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-16 11:16 -0800
                                        Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 13:29 -0600
                                        Re: INFINITY dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-16 15:50 -0500
                                          Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-16 13:48 -0800
                                            Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-16 14:45 -0800
                        Re: INFINITY pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-14 22:57 -0800
                        Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-15 14:57 -0800
              Re: INFINITY benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 14:06 -0500
                Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-12 11:42 -0800
          Re: INFINITY benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 13:15 -0500
            Re: INFINITY Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-12 10:26 -0800
          Re: INFINITY John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-13 23:34 -0800
      Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-11 19:37 -0800
    Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-11 18:25 -0800
      Re: INFINITY John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-11 21:55 -0800
      Re: INFINITY David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-11-12 13:04 -0600
        Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-12 11:54 -0800
          Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-12 22:51 -0800

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#370155

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-15 16:06 -0800
Message-ID<dd58120d-b004-4396-942f-417d294fba2f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#370151
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 3:07:39 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > My mistake, I copied an incomplete link:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_star_%28astronomy%29
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > But, I was refering to 'green stars' that existed BEFORE the big bang:
> > 
> > 
> > Don't you see the color green? Don't you see Green Stars?
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> I'm going to suggest that perhaps you are colorblind.
> 
> I'm also going to suggest that before the big bang there was nothing... but any answer to that question is doomed to be just speculation, in any case...

What if it really takes more than three 
dimensions in a color space, that 
for the observer it is such a 3-D hologram.

(This is for 4- or 5-D color in 3-D space.)


Before something there was nothing seems clear.

Consider the well and tunnel through all the 
Universe for Hubble.  Is there a light at 
the end or not?

There's a light, it's a tunnel.

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#370158

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-15 16:23 -0800
Message-ID<56492204.48BE@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#370151
pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 3:07:39 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > My mistake, I copied an incomplete link:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_star_%28astronomy%29
> >
> >
> >
> > But, I was refering to 'green stars' that existed BEFORE the big bang:
> >
> >
> > Don't you see the color green? Don't you see Green Stars?
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> I'm going to suggest that perhaps you are colorblind.
> 
> I'm also going to suggest that before the big bang there was nothing... but any answer to that question is doomed to be just speculation, in any case...

What question are you refering to?


Just imagine for a moment...
(try thinking on your own)

You take a camera..
and stand right where
the big bang took place..
take a picture
just before the big bang...
what will you see?

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#370172

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2015-11-15 20:01 -0800
Message-ID<2a7b55d4-2aba-4c6f-a983-20ae775176eb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#370158
On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 4:23:28 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 3:07:39 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > > My mistake, I copied an incomplete link:
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_star_%28astronomy%29
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > But, I was refering to 'green stars' that existed BEFORE the big bang:
> > >
> > >
> > > Don't you see the color green? Don't you see Green Stars?
> > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> > 
> > I'm going to suggest that perhaps you are colorblind.
> > 
> > I'm also going to suggest that before the big bang there was nothing... but any answer to that question is doomed to be just speculation, in any case...
> 
> What question are you refering to?

Why, the question of "what existed before the big bang". Having a little trouble with comprehension, are we?

> Just imagine for a moment...
> (try thinking on your own)
> 
> You take a camera..
> and stand right where
> the big bang took place..
> take a picture
> just before the big bang...
> what will you see?

Nothing at all. Why, what do YOU think you would see?

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#370179

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-15 21:56 -0800
Message-ID<56497000.750F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#370172
pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 4:23:28 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 3:07:39 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > > My mistake, I copied an incomplete link:
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_star_%28astronomy%29
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But, I was refering to 'green stars' that existed BEFORE the big bang:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Don't you see the color green? Don't you see Green Stars?
> > > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> > >
> > > I'm going to suggest that perhaps you are colorblind.
> > >
> > > I'm also going to suggest that before the big bang there was nothing... but any answer to that question is doomed to be just speculation, in any case...
> >
> > What question are you refering to?
> 
> Why, the question of "what existed before the big bang". Having a little trouble with comprehension, are we?
> 
> > Just imagine for a moment...
> > (try thinking on your own)
> >
> > You take a camera..
> > and stand right where
> > the big bang took place..
> > take a picture
> > just before the big bang...
> > what will you see?
> 
> Nothing at all. Why, what do YOU think you would see?


“My god, it’s full of green stars”

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#370219

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-16 11:16 -0800
Message-ID<564A2BA5.5653@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#370179
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 4:23:28 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 3:07:39 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My mistake, I copied an incomplete link:
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_star_%28astronomy%29
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But, I was refering to 'green stars' that existed BEFORE the big bang:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't you see the color green? Don't you see Green Stars?
> > > > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to suggest that perhaps you are colorblind.
> > > >
> > > > I'm also going to suggest that before the big bang there was nothing... but any answer to that question is doomed to be just speculation, in any case...
> > >
> > > What question are you refering to?
> >
> > Why, the question of "what existed before the big bang". Having a little trouble with comprehension, are we?
> >
> > > Just imagine for a moment...
> > > (try thinking on your own)
> > >
> > > You take a camera..
> > > and stand right where
> > > the big bang took place..
> > > take a picture
> > > just before the big bang...
> > > what will you see?
> >
> > Nothing at all. Why, what do YOU think you would see?
> 
> “My god, it’s full of green stars”


I'll explain again what caused the big bang...since I see
most of yous intelligence is 'bounded' by the internet.

The big bang was not an explosion of space as others will have you
believe. The big bang was an explosion of MORE space.

The green stars that existed before the big bang got to a point in time
where new born green stars lacked room in the bounds of it's universe.

It got so crowded of green stars it took just one more green star to
be born to set off the explosion....the explosion of 'more' space..an expansion.

In the process, the stars got so hot, it turned white...blue hot.

And all, new law of physics were added to accomadate the new space and expansion.

You don't have to be a rocet scientist to know this stuff...you just have to
go beyond the bounds of the internet....pass the few books in the book store...
you have to learn to...think for yourself. 

The Starmaker


I have to come up with a new publication: TRUE ASTRONOMY: What Really Caused The Big Bang!...a Starmaker Publication.


Did you read my other science publications? 
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg

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#370222

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-16 13:29 -0600
Message-ID<kIOdnd9UDbfjs9fLnZ2dnUU7-VEAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#370219
On 11/16/15 1:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The big bang was not an explosion of space as others will have you
> believe. The big bang was an explosion of MORE space.


   No Center
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html

   Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html

   WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory
     http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html

   WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology
     http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html



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#370234

Fromdvus <dven1@adelphia.net>
Date2015-11-16 15:50 -0500
Message-ID<dautscFkup6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#370219
On 11/16/2015 2:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 4:23:28 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 3:07:39 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My mistake, I copied an incomplete link:
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_star_%28astronomy%29
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, I was refering to 'green stars' that existed BEFORE the big bang:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't you see the color green? Don't you see Green Stars?
>>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to suggest that perhaps you are colorblind.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also going to suggest that before the big bang there was nothing... but any answer to that question is doomed to be just speculation, in any case...
>>>>
>>>> What question are you refering to?
>>>
>>> Why, the question of "what existed before the big bang". Having a little trouble with comprehension, are we?
>>>
>>>> Just imagine for a moment...
>>>> (try thinking on your own)
>>>>
>>>> You take a camera..
>>>> and stand right where
>>>> the big bang took place..
>>>> take a picture
>>>> just before the big bang...
>>>> what will you see?
>>>
>>> Nothing at all. Why, what do YOU think you would see?
>>
>> “My god, it’s full of green stars”
>
>
> I'll explain again what caused the big bang...since I see
> most of yous intelligence is 'bounded' by the internet.
>
> The big bang was not an explosion of space as others will have you
> believe. The big bang was an explosion of MORE space.
>
> The green stars that existed before the big bang got to a point in time
> where new born green stars lacked room in the bounds of it's universe.
>
> It got so crowded of green stars it took just one more green star to
> be born to set off the explosion....the explosion of 'more' space..an expansion.
>
> In the process, the stars got so hot, it turned white...blue hot.
>
> And all, new law of physics were added to accomadate the new space and expansion.
>
> You don't have to be a rocet scientist to know this stuff...you just have to
> go beyond the bounds of the internet....pass the few books in the book store...
> you have to learn to...think for yourself.
>
> The Starmaker
>
>
> I have to come up with a new publication: TRUE ASTRONOMY: What Really Caused The Big Bang!...a Starmaker Publication.
>
>
> Did you read my other science publications?
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg

Odd, the link on the cover is dead...

-- 
dvus

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#370241

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-16 13:48 -0800
Message-ID<564A4F17.1B4D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#370234
dvus wrote:
> 
> On 11/16/2015 2:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 4:23:28 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>> pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 3:07:39 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> My mistake, I copied an incomplete link:
> >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_star_%28astronomy%29
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But, I was refering to 'green stars' that existed BEFORE the big bang:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Don't you see the color green? Don't you see Green Stars?
> >>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm going to suggest that perhaps you are colorblind.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm also going to suggest that before the big bang there was nothing... but any answer to that question is doomed to be just speculation, in any case...
> >>>>
> >>>> What question are you refering to?
> >>>
> >>> Why, the question of "what existed before the big bang". Having a little trouble with comprehension, are we?
> >>>
> >>>> Just imagine for a moment...
> >>>> (try thinking on your own)
> >>>>
> >>>> You take a camera..
> >>>> and stand right where
> >>>> the big bang took place..
> >>>> take a picture
> >>>> just before the big bang...
> >>>> what will you see?
> >>>
> >>> Nothing at all. Why, what do YOU think you would see?
> >>
> >> “My god, it’s full of green stars”
> >
> >
> > I'll explain again what caused the big bang...since I see
> > most of yous intelligence is 'bounded' by the internet.
> >
> > The big bang was not an explosion of space as others will have you
> > believe. The big bang was an explosion of MORE space.
> >
> > The green stars that existed before the big bang got to a point in time
> > where new born green stars lacked room in the bounds of it's universe.
> >
> > It got so crowded of green stars it took just one more green star to
> > be born to set off the explosion....the explosion of 'more' space..an expansion.
> >
> > In the process, the stars got so hot, it turned white...blue hot.
> >
> > And all, new law of physics were added to accomadate the new space and expansion.
> >
> > You don't have to be a rocet scientist to know this stuff...you just have to
> > go beyond the bounds of the internet....pass the few books in the book store...
> > you have to learn to...think for yourself.
> >
> > The Starmaker
> >
> >
> > I have to come up with a new publication: TRUE ASTRONOMY: What Really Caused The Big Bang!...a Starmaker Publication.
> >
> >
> > Did you read my other science publications?
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg
> 
> Odd, the link on the cover is dead...

The link on the cover is not a real link. 

> 
> --
> dvus

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#370246

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-16 14:45 -0800
Message-ID<564A5C7C.4887@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#370241
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> dvus wrote:
> >
> > On 11/16/2015 2:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>
> > >> pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 4:23:28 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>> pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 3:07:39 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> My mistake, I copied an incomplete link:
> > >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_star_%28astronomy%29
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> But, I was refering to 'green stars' that existed BEFORE the big bang:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Don't you see the color green? Don't you see Green Stars?
> > >>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm going to suggest that perhaps you are colorblind.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm also going to suggest that before the big bang there was nothing... but any answer to that question is doomed to be just speculation, in any case...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> What question are you refering to?
> > >>>
> > >>> Why, the question of "what existed before the big bang". Having a little trouble with comprehension, are we?
> > >>>
> > >>>> Just imagine for a moment...
> > >>>> (try thinking on your own)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You take a camera..
> > >>>> and stand right where
> > >>>> the big bang took place..
> > >>>> take a picture
> > >>>> just before the big bang...
> > >>>> what will you see?
> > >>>
> > >>> Nothing at all. Why, what do YOU think you would see?
> > >>
> > >> “My god, it’s full of green stars”
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll explain again what caused the big bang...since I see
> > > most of yous intelligence is 'bounded' by the internet.
> > >
> > > The big bang was not an explosion of space as others will have you
> > > believe. The big bang was an explosion of MORE space.
> > >
> > > The green stars that existed before the big bang got to a point in time
> > > where new born green stars lacked room in the bounds of it's universe.
> > >
> > > It got so crowded of green stars it took just one more green star to
> > > be born to set off the explosion....the explosion of 'more' space..an expansion.
> > >
> > > In the process, the stars got so hot, it turned white...blue hot.
> > >
> > > And all, new law of physics were added to accomadate the new space and expansion.
> > >
> > > You don't have to be a rocet scientist to know this stuff...you just have to
> > > go beyond the bounds of the internet....pass the few books in the book store...
> > > you have to learn to...think for yourself.
> > >
> > > The Starmaker
> > >
> > >
> > > I have to come up with a new publication: TRUE ASTRONOMY: What Really Caused The Big Bang!...a Starmaker Publication.
> > >
> > >
> > > Did you read my other science publications?
> > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg
> >
> > Odd, the link on the cover is dead...
> 
> The link on the cover is not a real link.
> 
> >
> > --
> > dvus


It's called a mock-up magazine.

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#370084

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2015-11-14 22:57 -0800
Message-ID<ed1b628e-3118-4699-b286-8bd080a0fb3d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#370015
On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 11:46:51 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:

> In other words...
> the green stars
> created
> ...Space.

There is no such thing as a green star. Haven't you been paying attention?

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#370148

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-15 14:57 -0800
Message-ID<56490DBF.479D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#370015
Saul Levy wrote:
> 
> MAKE THAT A LYING FRAUD!
> 
> YOU ARE A NOTHING!

Saul, don't you mean a NOBODY? 

I mean, isn't that how yous people talk about others, you call everyone
ouside your 'community' ...a NOBODY???

In other words, yous people say in the 'scientific community' (behind peoples back)
"Oh, don't worry about him, he's a NOBODY!"


A NOTHING is something that doesn't exist. Are you talking to NOTHING or NOBODY?


Oh, I wanted to ask you a question Saul Levy...are your relatives American Indians??

http://www.kingofcopy.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/You-dont-have-to-be-Jewish-to-Love-Levys.jpg 

I mean, you look like and dress like an American Indian...
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBgQ3t7CAAIkVc_.jpg:large



I'm just confused because the poster slogan contradicts the person in the photo:
http://www.kingofcopy.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/You-dont-have-to-be-Jewish-to-Love-Levys.jpg 

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-trB1YatmTFA/TcrY-Q8XHyI/AAAAAAAAAIU/5WRZ56SvXU4/s1600/DSC_0147.jpg


Or, let me take it a level further that confuses me...

Here is the language of the American Indian and the Hebrew language:


  English


Jehovah
God
Jah
Shiloh
Heavens
Father
Man
Woman
Wife
Thou
His Wife
This man
Nose
Roof of a house
Winter
Canaan
To pray
Now
Hind part
Do
To blow
Rushing wind
Ararat, or high mount


   Indian


Yohewah
Ale
Yah
Shilu
Chemim
Abba
Ish, Ishte
Ishto
Awah
Keah
Liani
Uwoh
Niehiri
Traubana-ora
Kora
Cannai
Phale
Na
Kesh
Jennais
Phaubac
Rowah
Ararat


   Hebrew


Jehovah
Ale, Aleim
Jah
Shiloh
Shemim
Abba
Ish
Ishto
Eweh, Eve
Ka
Lihene
Huah
Neheri
Debonaour
Korah
Canaan
Phalac
Na
Kish
Jannon
Phaubac
Ruach
Ararat





So you can understand my confusion with this poster and it's slogan:

http://www.kingofcopy.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/You-dont-have-to-be-Jewish-to-Love-Levys.jpg 


It reads: You-dont-have-to-be-Jewish-to-Love-Levys...but the guy in the picture is Jewish!

I'm confused....somebody help me out here.





> 
> Saul Levy
> 
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 11:46:48 -0800, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >I give the
> >'scientific community'
> >another thousand years
> >to catch up to me.
> >
> >The Starmaker

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#369812

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-12 14:06 -0500
Message-ID<sq51y.59369$WF.31637@fx30.iad>
In reply to#369799
On 11/12/2015 12:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 2:02:42 AM UTC-8, je suis charly wrote:
>>> In article <n210k5$l1d$1@speranza.aioe.org>, gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The universe is flat, not curved...it is only curved...mathematically.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you silly, if the universe is flat,  why is the earth a sphere ?
>>>>
>>>> and yes, Earth is only curved at the edges.
>>>
>>> The universe appears to have zero global curvature; mathematicians refer to zero
>>> curvature as flat. This an additional definition to the old definition of a
>>> primarily two dimensional surface with little relief in the third dimension. The
>>> earth is nearly spherical body in a local hyperbolic geometry which appears over
>>> long distance to become Euclidean geometry.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
>>> of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
>>> coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
>>> of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.
>>
>> On peut commencer avec "il n'y a peut de l'Universe".
>>
>> One can start with "there is only the Universe".
>> One can start with "there is nothing but the Universe".
>>
>> On peut commencer avec "il n'y a plus de l'Universe".
>
>
> You got everything wrong...(you need to get off the math road)
>
>
> "there is nothing AND the universe"
>
>
> Where do you think the universe came from?

The universe was projected from God, starfaker. Hence, God is everything 
and always was and will be. Hence God is nothing AND the universe!



-- 

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#369815

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-12 11:42 -0800
Message-ID<5644EB99.36E2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#369812
benj wrote:
> 
> On 11/12/2015 12:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 2:02:42 AM UTC-8, je suis charly wrote:
> >>> In article <n210k5$l1d$1@speranza.aioe.org>, gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> The universe is flat, not curved...it is only curved...mathematically.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> you silly, if the universe is flat,  why is the earth a sphere ?
> >>>>
> >>>> and yes, Earth is only curved at the edges.
> >>>
> >>> The universe appears to have zero global curvature; mathematicians refer to zero
> >>> curvature as flat. This an additional definition to the old definition of a
> >>> primarily two dimensional surface with little relief in the third dimension. The
> >>> earth is nearly spherical body in a local hyperbolic geometry which appears over
> >>> long distance to become Euclidean geometry.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
> >>> of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
> >>> coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
> >>> of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.
> >>
> >> On peut commencer avec "il n'y a peut de l'Universe".
> >>
> >> One can start with "there is only the Universe".
> >> One can start with "there is nothing but the Universe".
> >>
> >> On peut commencer avec "il n'y a plus de l'Universe".
> >
> >
> > You got everything wrong...(you need to get off the math road)
> >
> >
> > "there is nothing AND the universe"
> >
> >
> > Where do you think the universe came from?
> 
> The universe was projected from God, starfaker. Hence, God is everything
> and always was and will be. Hence God is nothing AND the universe!
> 

So then...you don't believe God created the universe since it already
existed?? How about the earth???

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#369804

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-12 13:15 -0500
Message-ID<jH41y.64418$4M.55932@fx17.iad>
In reply to#369770
On 11/12/2015 05:02 AM, je suis charly wrote:
> In article <n210k5$l1d$1@speranza.aioe.org>, gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>> The universe is flat, not curved...it is only curved...mathematically.
>>
>>
>> you silly, if the universe is flat,  why is the earth a sphere ?
>>
>> and yes, Earth is only curved at the edges.
>
> The universe appears to have zero global curvature; mathematicians refer to zero
> curvature as flat. This an additional definition to the old definition of a
> primarily two dimensional surface with little relief in the third dimension. The
> earth is nearly spherical body in a local hyperbolic geometry which appears over
> long distance to become Euclidean geometry.

Exactly correct. Before one assumes the universe to be flat, one FIRST 
needs to employ instruments sensitive enough to detect deviations from 
180 degrees for the sum of the angles of a triangle on the surface of a 
hypersphere of say 500 million light years in diameter.

How one would do that would be an interesting discussion of experimental 
physics.

-- 

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   /::\~\:\__\   /::\~\:\  \   /:/|:|  |__  /\  /:/\/__/
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  \:\~\:\/:/  / \:\~\:\ \/__/ \/__|:|/:/  /  \::/  /
   \:\ \::/  /   \:\ \:\__\       |:/:/  /    \/__/
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#369805

FromSiri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2015-11-12 10:26 -0800
Message-ID<chine.bleu-2DC00D.10263612112015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#369804
In article <jH41y.64418$4M.55932@fx17.iad>, benj <none@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/12/2015 05:02 AM, je suis charly wrote:
> > In article <n210k5$l1d$1@speranza.aioe.org>, gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> The universe is flat, not curved...it is only curved...mathematically.
> >>
> >>
> >> you silly, if the universe is flat,  why is the earth a sphere ?
> >>
> >> and yes, Earth is only curved at the edges.
> >
> > The universe appears to have zero global curvature; mathematicians refer to 
> > zero
> > curvature as flat. This an additional definition to the old definition of a
> > primarily two dimensional surface with little relief in the third 
> > dimension. The
> > earth is nearly spherical body in a local hyperbolic geometry which appears 
> > over
> > long distance to become Euclidean geometry.
> 
> Exactly correct. Before one assumes the universe to be flat, one FIRST 
> needs to employ instruments sensitive enough to detect deviations from 
> 180 degrees for the sum of the angles of a triangle on the surface of a 
> hypersphere of say 500 million light years in diameter.

The current evidence is the distribution of cosmic background radiation which 
physicists say is most consistent with little or no curvature.

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
God exists since mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists since we
cannot prove the consistency.  ~~ Morris Kline

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#369919

FromJohn Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com>
Date2015-11-13 23:34 -0800
Message-ID<900158b2-43b9-416a-a861-ab34aa8e572a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#369770
On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 4:02:42 AM UTC-6, je suis charly wrote:
> In article <n210k5$l1d$1@speranza.aioe.org>, gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
> 
> > > The universe is flat, not curved...it is only curved...mathematically.
> > 
> > 
> > you silly, if the universe is flat,  why is the earth a sphere ?
> > 
> > and yes, Earth is only curved at the edges.
> 
> The universe appears to have zero global curvature; mathematicians refer to zero 
> curvature as flat. This an additional definition to the old definition of a 
> primarily two dimensional surface with little relief in the third dimension. The 
> earth is nearly spherical body in a local hyperbolic geometry which appears over 
> long distance to become Euclidean geometry.
> 
> -- 
> Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
> of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
> coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
> of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

Yes, it is either light falling into the eye c, or the eye which possess a pre magnified instantaneous quantity.

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#369752

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-11 19:37 -0800
Message-ID<5644097C.69AC@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#369699
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> benj wrote:
> >
> > On 11/11/2015 09:40 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > On 11/11/15 8:20 AM, HVAC wrote:
> > >> The universe is finite yet unbounded. Since objects near the end of
> > >> our ability to see are moving away from us at speeds approaching
> > >> light, this effectively makes the universe, to us, infinite
> > >>
> > >
> > >    Well... we could quibble about *why* the universe might be infinite.
> > >    Many a physicist argue the the overall flatness of the universe is
> > >    a dead giveaway that it is infinite. But I'd settle for Huge!
> >
> > Actually Sam, for once you are right...sort of. Universe is HUGE and
> > finite, but not flat. It only appears flat to us because our instruments
> > are not sensitive enough to measure the tiny curvature.
> >
> 
> More misinformation being posted in my threads...i will not stand for it.
> 
> Get this straight for once and for all..
> 
> The universe is flat, not curved...it is only curved...mathematically.
> 
> I don't allow misinformation being spread in my threads...do it on ohter
> threads
> where people don't care if children are reading misinformation.
> 
> (sorry kids, a lot of inconsiderate people are out there)


correction: More misinformation being posted in my threads...i will not
stand for it.

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#369747

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-11 18:25 -0800
Message-ID<5643F89D.4D8F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#369630
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Okay, you guys seem to get this "infinity" thing all wrong...
> 
> Albert Einstein is quoted as saying "...I'm not sure about the universe."
> 
> Im other words, Einstein is "not sure" that the universe is infinite.
> 
> If he ain't sure, what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than him???
> 
> I mean, if you look that way..all the way,
> you will see the back of your head. that is finite.
> 
> or
> 
>  a/one google page is determined by google's entire network.


Even Isaac Newton (the last smartest guy on earth) wasn't sure
about...infinity.


what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than them
both???



The Starmaker


after Isaac Newton died (the last smartest guy on earth), there was no
one smartest since..
it's downhill for you guys, ain't it?



Born: January 4, 1643

371 years
10 months
12 days ago
18 hours
23 minutes
58 seconds
ago, to be precise.

was the last smartest guy on earth.

It's over for you guys, ain't it?

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#369759

FromJohn Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com>
Date2015-11-11 21:55 -0800
Message-ID<32d6ace0-6db4-4e21-8bef-07f36d83c9bf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#369747
On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 8:25:04 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > Okay, you guys seem to get this "infinity" thing all wrong...
> > 
> > Albert Einstein is quoted as saying "...I'm not sure about the universe."
> > 
> > Im other words, Einstein is "not sure" that the universe is infinite.
> > 
> > If he ain't sure, what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than him???
> > 
> > I mean, if you look that way..all the way,
> > you will see the back of your head. that is finite.
> > 
> > or
> > 
> >  a/one google page is determined by google's entire network.
> 
> 
> Even Isaac Newton (the last smartest guy on earth) wasn't sure
> about...infinity.
> 
> 
> what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than them
> both???
> 
> 
> 
> The Starmaker
> 
> 
> after Isaac Newton died (the last smartest guy on earth), there was no
> one smartest since..
> it's downhill for you guys, ain't it?
> 
> 
> 
> Born: January 4, 1643
> 
> 371 years
> 10 months
> 12 days ago
> 18 hours
> 23 minutes
> 58 seconds
> ago, to be precise.
> 
> was the last smartest guy on earth.
> 
> It's over for you guys, ain't it?

Descartes and Galileo were just as great.

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#369811

FromDavid Staup <dstaup@charter.net>
Date2015-11-12 13:04 -0600
Message-ID<n22nnr$e13$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#369747
On 11/11/2015 8:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> Okay, you guys seem to get this "infinity" thing all wrong...
>>
>> Albert Einstein is quoted as saying "...I'm not sure about the universe."
>>
>> Im other words, Einstein is "not sure" that the universe is infinite.
>>
>> If he ain't sure, what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than him???
>>
>> I mean, if you look that way..all the way,
>> you will see the back of your head. that is finite.
>>
>> or
>>
>>   a/one google page is determined by google's entire network.
>
>
> Even Isaac Newton (the last smartest guy on earth) wasn't sure
> about...infinity.
>
>
> what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than them
> both???
>
>
>
> The Starmaker
>
>
> after Isaac Newton died (the last smartest guy on earth), there was no
> one smartest since..
> it's downhill for you guys, ain't it?
>
>
>
> Born: January 4, 1643
>
> 371 years
> 10 months
> 12 days ago
> 18 hours
> 23 minutes
> 58 seconds
> ago, to be precise.
>
> was the last smartest guy on earth.
>
> It's over for you guys, ain't it?
>
chuckle
idiotic dribble

having prostrate  problems?

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