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| Started by | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2015-09-07 17:22 -0700 |
| Last post | 2015-09-18 20:07 -0700 |
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Are modified clocks synchronized? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-07 17:22 -0700
Re: Are modified clocks synchronized? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 20:18 -0700
Re: Are modified clocks synchronized? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 20:22 -0700
Re: Are modified clocks synchronized? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-17 12:01 -0700
Re: Are modified clocks synchronized? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 20:14 -0700
Re: Are modified clocks synchronized? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:07 -0700
Re: Are modified clocks synchronized? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 20:07 -0700
| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-07 17:22 -0700 |
| Subject | Are modified clocks synchronized? |
| Message-ID | <95ee68fd-e67f-4938-a345-bbefae450eaf@googlegroups.com> |
We have extrapolated our clocks A and B and realize that they have their own unique x,y,z coordinates with respect to each other. But, then there is measuring an event at C which A and B have to consider with respect to each other. In this, our biggest problems exist in the temporal aspects of whether information is observed in the past, present, or future.
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-16 20:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <79944c82-58e0-480e-8bb3-b8bd659f3e43@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #363426 |
On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 7:22:28 PM UTC-5, John Gogo wrote: > We have extrapolated our clocks A and B and realize that they have their own unique x,y,z coordinates with respect to each other. But, then there is measuring an event at C which A and B have to consider with respect to each other. In this, our biggest problems exist in the temporal aspects of whether information is observed in the past, present, or future. It is amazing that no one has anything to say about this- or are you busy re-inventing?
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-16 20:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <33e2d691-3662-43dc-91af-ad2ac4dec635@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #364332 |
On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 10:18:28 PM UTC-5, John Gogo wrote: > On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 7:22:28 PM UTC-5, John Gogo wrote: > > We have extrapolated our clocks A and B and realize that they have their own unique x,y,z coordinates with respect to each other. But, then there is measuring an event at C which A and B have to consider with respect to each other. In this, our biggest problems exist in the temporal aspects of whether information is observed in the past, present, or future. > > It is amazing that no one has anything to say about this- or are you busy re-inventing? It seemed to me that Tom Roberts was willing to acknowledge that modified clocks are synchronized- but he pulled back at that moment sensing that it might be a trap. C'mon Tom, tell us about your modified clocks.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-17 12:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55FB0E23.4476@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #364332 |
John Gogo wrote: > > On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 7:22:28 PM UTC-5, John Gogo wrote: > > We have extrapolated our clocks A and B and realize that they have their own unique x,y,z coordinates with respect to each other. But, then there is measuring an event at C which A and B have to consider with respect to each other. In this, our biggest problems exist in the temporal aspects of whether information is observed in the past, present, or future. > > It is amazing that no one has anything to say about this- or are you busy re-inventing? My time my clock that measures time may slow down second by second but if my time my clock stops ticking.. then my time stops.
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-18 20:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1bb96592-adb9-45d5-b047-6ad79d494d6f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #364402 |
On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 2:02:03 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > John Gogo wrote: > > > > On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 7:22:28 PM UTC-5, John Gogo wrote: > > > We have extrapolated our clocks A and B and realize that they have their own unique x,y,z coordinates with respect to each other. But, then there is measuring an event at C which A and B have to consider with respect to each other. In this, our biggest problems exist in the temporal aspects of whether information is observed in the past, present, or future. > > > > It is amazing that no one has anything to say about this- or are you busy re-inventing? > > > My time > my clock > that measures time > may slow down > second by second > but if > my time > my clock > stops ticking.. > then my time stops. If your clock stops- it means your dead. From birth we are in perpetual motion. The whole problem is to break this perpetual motion code- to come up with a meaningful static measure.
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| From | rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-17 12:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1c49b665-7488-4885-bd8a-99f760b2aa61@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #363426 |
On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 8:22:28 PM UTC-4, John Gogo wrote: > We have extrapolated our clocks A and B and realize that they have their own ... Well, clocks dont need to be synchronized. But **time** does (in inertial frames). IOW, in inertial frames, TIME is *defined* via an operational procedure that uses *clocks* AND a synch procedure. This is what is meant by "to coordinate the inertial reference frame" (time-wise).
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-18 20:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6468e398-0ce2-4dd0-ac4a-ae660c5aa765@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #364404 |
On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 2:07:39 PM UTC-5, rotchm wrote: > On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 8:22:28 PM UTC-4, John Gogo wrote: > > We have extrapolated our clocks A and B and realize that they have their own > ... > > Well, clocks dont need to be synchronized. But **time** does (in inertial frames). > IOW, in inertial frames, TIME is *defined* via an operational procedure that uses *clocks* AND a synch procedure. This is what is meant by "to coordinate the inertial reference frame" (time-wise). Time not light. This must be an internal matter.
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