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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2015-07-23 12:11 -0700
Last post2015-07-24 04:25 -0400
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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-23 12:11 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-23 18:08 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-23 20:17 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 00:13 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-24 00:53 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 11:57 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-24 16:58 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 18:13 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-24 16:22 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-24 18:32 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:00 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 10:46 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-26 00:20 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-26 06:42 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:03 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:06 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:08 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:01 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-26 11:03 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:08 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-28 18:24 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-29 07:23 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-25 17:20 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:09 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-28 17:25 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-26 03:54 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:09 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-27 04:23 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:09 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-29 03:55 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-29 07:23 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-30 04:08 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-30 15:18 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-31 04:00 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 07:08 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:29 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-31 10:17 -0600
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-31 16:38 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 09:56 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 11:27 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:17 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 10:39 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-02 11:51 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 12:04 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 12:18 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-02 14:01 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 15:05 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 16:12 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:18 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-02 10:15 -0600
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:19 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-03 03:11 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-03 09:04 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-03 16:42 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-03 18:39 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:01 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-04 15:36 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:55 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-03 17:56 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:02 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-04 18:54 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:57 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-05 12:56 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-06 19:27 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-06 17:44 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 05:23 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:46 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:04 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:49 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:12 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:17 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:48 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:41 -0500
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:11 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:51 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:19 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 11:48 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:01 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:26 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:03 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:48 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:44 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:59 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:06 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:51 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:19 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:19 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:54 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:46 -0500
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:15 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:53 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:15 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:18 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:02 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:43 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 01:10 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 20:42 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 22:28 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:07 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:14 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:45 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-07 09:18 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:16 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 16:19 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:21 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:26 -0700
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:46 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-08 04:57 -0700
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 08:32 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 14:58 -0700
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-08 18:12 +0200
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:13 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 16:13 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 08:16 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:11 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-08 14:06 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 14:58 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:38 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 00:00 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:19 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 12:22 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 15:42 -0500
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-07 15:48 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:26 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:42 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:58 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 12:59 -0700
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:21 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:54 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 13:14 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:31 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:47 -0500
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:22 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:55 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:17 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 11:58 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:00 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:19 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-16 12:24 -0700
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:03 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:45 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-20 12:40 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-04 05:16 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:03 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:46 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 14:00 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:07 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:35 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:48 -0500
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:23 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:16 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-16 12:25 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-18 13:27 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-18 19:04 +0000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 12:33 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:17 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:47 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:42 +0000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:19 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-19 18:30 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 21:52 +0800
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:07 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:02 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:38 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-18 13:28 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:48 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:20 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:49 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:09 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-29 11:15 -0600
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-29 13:56 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-29 18:59 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-30 06:43 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-30 04:11 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-07-30 11:38 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-31 04:03 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-07-31 04:14 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:34 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-31 10:19 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-31 12:06 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-31 21:52 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 00:56 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-31 22:22 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-31 22:32 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 01:55 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-01 12:39 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:39 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:38 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-30 04:10 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 11:59 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-24 16:27 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-25 10:32 +0100
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 09:07 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:03 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 15:15 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-26 10:09 +0100
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:11 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:08 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:11 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 06:36 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:04 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-25 11:31 -0600
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:13 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 10:45 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:14 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-25 17:23 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:02 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 10:46 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:19 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 15:13 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:20 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:10 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-07-26 15:19 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:29 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:14 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:13 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-07-26 22:45 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:13 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-26 23:03 -0600
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-27 18:43 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-24 00:39 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-24 04:25 -0400

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#359581

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-08-03 17:56 -0700
Message-ID<mpp2l72o9t@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#359569
On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
> etc.

And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.

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#359643

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-04 15:02 -0500
Message-ID<9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com>
In reply to#359581
On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>> etc.
>
>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.

What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.  

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#359668

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-08-04 18:54 -0700
Message-ID<mprqcr2f2g@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#359643
On 08/04/2015 01:02 PM, duke wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>
>> >On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>> >>  Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>> >>  witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>> >>  etc.
>> >
>> >And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
> What 3rd party verification.

I gave an example.  France got involved in the war between the US and 
UK, and their intervention at sea in the Chesapeake Bay region led to 
our victory at Saratoga.  Your gospels have no attestation outside of 
the self-same gospels.

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#359750

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-05 13:57 -0500
Message-ID<22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com>
In reply to#359668
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:54:49 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>On 08/04/2015 01:02 PM, duke wrote:
>> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> >On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>> >>  Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>> >>  witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>> >>  etc.
>>> >
>>> >And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>> What 3rd party verification.
>
>I gave an example.  France got involved in the war between the US and 
>UK, and their intervention at sea in the Chesapeake Bay region led to 
>our victory at Saratoga.  Your gospels have no attestation outside of 
>the se

But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.  You're just
spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#359757

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-08-05 12:56 -0700
Message-ID<mptpri32t8g@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#359750
On 08/05/2015 11:57 AM, duke wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:54:49 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>
>> >On 08/04/2015 01:02 PM, duke wrote:
>>> >>  On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>   wrote:
>>> >>
>>>>> >>>  >On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    etc.
>>>>> >>>  >
>>>>> >>>  >And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>> >>  What 3rd party verification.
>> >
>> >I gave an example.  France got involved in the war between the US and
>> >UK, and their intervention at sea in the Chesapeake Bay region led to
>> >our victory at Saratoga.  Your gospels have no attestation outside of
>> >the se
> But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.  You're just
> spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ.

Soliphism much?

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#359862

Fromwdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date2015-08-06 19:27 -0400
Message-ID<mq0qgb$9le$1@panix2.panix.com>
In reply to#359757
In article <mptpri32t8g@news6.newsguy.com>,
talishi <talishi@example.net> said:

On 08/05/2015 11:57 AM, duke wrote:
>
>> But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.
>> You're just spouting the same quality of support that I have for
>> Jesus Christ.
>
> Soliphism much?

Mash-up of 'sophism' and 'solipsism'? :-)

-- wds

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#359864

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-08-06 17:44 -0700
Message-ID<mq0v2213ua@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#359862
On 08/06/2015 04:27 PM, William December Starr wrote:
> In article <mptpri32t8g@news6.newsguy.com>,
> talishi <talishi@example.net> said:
>
> On 08/05/2015 11:57 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>> But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.
>>> You're just spouting the same quality of support that I have for
>>> Jesus Christ.
>>
>> Soliphism much?
>
> Mash-up of 'sophism' and 'solipsism'? :-)

It's whatever I say it is.  Everything is.

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#359899

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-07 05:23 -0400
Message-ID<mq1tc4$ftt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#359864
On 8/6/2015 8:44 PM, talishi wrote:
>
>>>> But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.
>>>> You're just spouting the same quality of support that I have for
>>>> Jesus Christ.
>>>
>>> Soliphism much?
>>
>> Mash-up of 'sophism' and 'solipsism'? :-)
>
> It's whatever I say it is.  Everything is.


That would depend on what your definition of 'is' is.



-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#359961

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-07 16:46 -0500
Message-ID<mo9asadvjenj8dr36m9o0m31rsa2ktvbuo@4ax.com>
In reply to#359757
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 12:56:48 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>On 08/05/2015 11:57 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:54:49 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> >On 08/04/2015 01:02 PM, duke wrote:
>>>> >>  On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>   wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>  >On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    etc.
>>>>>> >>>  >
>>>>>> >>>  >And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>> >>  What 3rd party verification.
>>> >
>>> >I gave an example.  France got involved in the war between the US and
>>> >UK, and their intervention at sea in the Chesapeake Bay region led to
>>> >our victory at Saratoga.  Your gospels have no attestation outside of
>>> >the se

>> But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.  You're just
>> spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ.

>Soliphism much?

Just the truth, ma'am, just the truth.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#359795

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-06 05:04 -0400
Message-ID<4j86salhh0g9al2cpskboc8hhovft4om60@4ax.com>
In reply to#359750
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote:

>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.  You're just
>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ.

Nope.  Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses
themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar
accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved
provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even
approached.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#359962

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-07 16:49 -0500
Message-ID<iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com>
In reply to#359795
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.  You're just
>>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ.

>Nope.  Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses
>themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar
>accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved
>provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even
>approached.

20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ.
And the have given us the same quality of testament that you have for any
worldly event before 125 years ago after the last eye witness has died.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#359991

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-08 04:12 -0400
Message-ID<8aebsa9ue0t4df15bkq6rq19invk8rkvkh@4ax.com>
In reply to#359962
On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.  You're just
>>>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ.
>
>>Nope.  Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses
>>themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar
>>accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved
>>provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even
>>approached.
>
>20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ.

Perhaps they did or perhaps they didn't.  There is no verified
evidence he even existed.


>And the have given us the same quality of testament that you have for any
>worldly event before 125 years ago after the last eye witness has died.

Accounts personally recorded by the witnesses themselves?  Separate
accounts, each from his own viewpoint, and unrelated to any other
accounts?  Or to your book of myths?

I think not.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#360030

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-08 13:17 -0500
Message-ID<6shcsat1a9u0pjn0sj1u5td2192penksnr@4ax.com>
In reply to#359991
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:12:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.  You're just
>>>>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ.
>>
>>>Nope.  Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses
>>>themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar
>>>accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved
>>>provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even
>>>approached.
>>
>>20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ.
>
>Perhaps they did or perhaps they didn't.  There is no verified
>evidence he even existed.

No war of Independence against England, eh?

>>And the have given us the same quality of testament that you have for any
>>worldly event before 125 years ago after the last eye witness has died.
>
>Accounts personally recorded by the witnesses themselves?  Separate
>accounts, each from his own viewpoint, and unrelated to any other
>accounts?  Or to your book of myths?
>
>I think not.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#360079

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-09 04:48 -0400
Message-ID<pp4esahr9qirg2ho0b7qpmj8d1lbu42v7p@4ax.com>
In reply to#360030
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:17:18 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<6shcsat1a9u0pjn0sj1u5td2192penksnr@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:12:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.  You're just
>>>>>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ.
>>>
>>>>Nope.  Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses
>>>>themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar
>>>>accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved
>>>>provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even
>>>>approached.
>>>
>>>20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ.
>>
>>Perhaps they did or perhaps they didn't.  There is no verified
>>evidence he even existed.
>
>No war of Independence against England, eh?

Sorry.  A preponderance of evidence supports the fact that there
actually was such a war, and this independent and verified evidence is
available for anyone to inspect.

>
>>>And the have given us the same quality of testament that you have for any
>>>worldly event before 125 years ago after the last eye witness has died.
>>
>>Accounts personally recorded by the witnesses themselves?  Separate
>>accounts, each from his own viewpoint, and unrelated to any other
>>accounts?  Or to your book of myths?
>>
>>I think not.
>

Thanks for admitting there is nothing to verify your book of myths.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#360106

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-09 09:41 -0500
Message-ID<qdpesa5mc2n8uu8gronilsqjnm4gtipr0h@4ax.com>
In reply to#360079
On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:48:19 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:17:18 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><6shcsat1a9u0pjn0sj1u5td2192penksnr@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:12:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.  You're just
>>>>>>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ.
>>>>
>>>>>Nope.  Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses
>>>>>themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar
>>>>>accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved
>>>>>provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even
>>>>>approached.
>>>>
>>>>20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ.
>>>
>>>Perhaps they did or perhaps they didn't.  There is no verified
>>>evidence he even existed.
>>
>>No war of Independence against England, eh?
>
>Sorry.  A preponderance of evidence supports the fact that there
>actually was such a war, and this independent and verified evidence is
>available for anyone to inspect.

What evidence, and how is it qualitatively  any different than what we have for
the events of the life of the Son of God.  You can look at a musket ball all
day, and maybe find the place of manufacture in England.  Maybe it was dropped
by someone.  You can look at a document, a painting and I can look at a document
and a painting.

>>>>And the have given us the same quality of testament that you have for any
>>>>worldly event before 125 years ago after the last eye witness has died.
>>>
>>>Accounts personally recorded by the witnesses themselves?  Separate
>>>accounts, each from his own viewpoint, and unrelated to any other
>>>accounts?  Or to your book of myths?
>>>
>>>I think not.
>>
>
>Thanks for admitting there is nothing to verify your book of myths.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#360195

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-10 05:11 -0400
Message-ID<3iqgsapije3umd2pe8sqfb1ar8f2vsi2gm@4ax.com>
In reply to#360106
On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 09:41:59 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<qdpesa5mc2n8uu8gronilsqjnm4gtipr0h@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:48:19 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:17:18 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><6shcsat1a9u0pjn0sj1u5td2192penksnr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:12:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.  You're just
>>>>>>>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Nope.  Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses
>>>>>>themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar
>>>>>>accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved
>>>>>>provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even
>>>>>>approached.
>>>>>
>>>>>20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ.
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps they did or perhaps they didn't.  There is no verified
>>>>evidence he even existed.
>>>
>>>No war of Independence against England, eh?
>>
>>Sorry.  A preponderance of evidence supports the fact that there
>>actually was such a war, and this independent and verified evidence is
>>available for anyone to inspect.
>
>What evidence, and how is it qualitatively  any different than what we have for
>the events of the life of the Son of God.  You can look at a musket ball all
>day, and maybe find the place of manufacture in England.  Maybe it was dropped
>by someone.  You can look at a document, a painting and I can look at a document
>and a painting.

Since you refuse to acknowledge the difference between one unverified
source and thousands of independently verified sources no additional
discussion is possible.

Based upon your logic every word in Gone With the Wind describes an
true and accurate account of actual events.

>
>>>>>And the have given us the same quality of testament that you have for any
>>>>>worldly event before 125 years ago after the last eye witness has died.
>>>>
>>>>Accounts personally recorded by the witnesses themselves?  Separate
>>>>accounts, each from his own viewpoint, and unrelated to any other
>>>>accounts?  Or to your book of myths?
>>>>
>>>>I think not.
>>>
>>
>>Thanks for admitting there is nothing to verify your book of myths.



--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#360354

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-11 12:51 -0500
Message-ID<iedksah7bs1ep4iuqh0q39q4i1vh5kaq5g@4ax.com>
In reply to#360195
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:11:55 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 09:41:59 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><qdpesa5mc2n8uu8gronilsqjnm4gtipr0h@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:48:19 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:17:18 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><6shcsat1a9u0pjn0sj1u5td2192penksnr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:12:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead.  You're just
>>>>>>>>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nope.  Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses
>>>>>>>themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar
>>>>>>>accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved
>>>>>>>provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even
>>>>>>>approached.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ.
>>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps they did or perhaps they didn't.  There is no verified
>>>>>evidence he even existed.
>>>>
>>>>No war of Independence against England, eh?
>>>
>>>Sorry.  A preponderance of evidence supports the fact that there
>>>actually was such a war, and this independent and verified evidence is
>>>available for anyone to inspect.
>>
>>What evidence, and how is it qualitatively  any different than what we have for
>>the events of the life of the Son of God.  You can look at a musket ball all
>>day, and maybe find the place of manufacture in England.  Maybe it was dropped
>>by someone.  You can look at a document, a painting and I can look at a document
>>and a painting.

>Since you refuse to acknowledge the difference between one unverified
>source and thousands of independently verified sources no additional
>discussion is possible.

Why are they unverified.  People actually experienced life then.

>Based upon your logic every word in Gone With the Wind describes an
>true and accurate account of actual events.

No reason to believe that.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#360434

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-12 03:19 -0400
Message-ID<epslsa5p14mbg6e8uhl366os3s7agdgb40@4ax.com>
In reply to#360354
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:51:17 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<iedksah7bs1ep4iuqh0q39q4i1vh5kaq5g@4ax.com> wrote:

>>Since you refuse to acknowledge the difference between one unverified
>>source and thousands of independently verified sources no additional
>>discussion is possible.
>
>Why are they unverified.  People actually experienced life then.

See?  You prove my point.

>
>>Based upon your logic every word in Gone With the Wind describes an
>>true and accurate account of actual events.
>
>No reason to believe that.

As much reason as there is to believe any of the drivel in your book
of superstitions.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#360896

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-15 11:48 -0500
Message-ID<v9rusapp79p6e91o4qhe3esapag5fgaest@4ax.com>
In reply to#360434
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 03:19:26 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:51:17 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><iedksah7bs1ep4iuqh0q39q4i1vh5kaq5g@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>>Since you refuse to acknowledge the difference between one unverified
>>>source and thousands of independently verified sources no additional
>>>discussion is possible.
>>
>>Why are they unverified.  People actually experienced life then.
>
>See?  You prove my point.

I know I did mine.

>>>Based upon your logic every word in Gone With the Wind describes an
>>>true and accurate account of actual events.
>>
>>No reason to believe that.

>As much reason as there is to believe any of the drivel in your book
>of superstitions.

The skin off your ass, not mine.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#360959

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-16 04:01 -0400
Message-ID<oog0tap9ok2mnejpjs5o2nvmh2sll1h11n@4ax.com>
In reply to#360896
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:48:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<v9rusapp79p6e91o4qhe3esapag5fgaest@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 03:19:26 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:51:17 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><iedksah7bs1ep4iuqh0q39q4i1vh5kaq5g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Since you refuse to acknowledge the difference between one unverified
>>>>source and thousands of independently verified sources no additional
>>>>discussion is possible.
>>>
>>>Why are they unverified.  People actually experienced life then.
>>
>>See?  You prove my point.
>
>I know I did mine.

You have only proven how brainwashed you are.

>
>>>>Based upon your logic every word in Gone With the Wind describes an
>>>>true and accurate account of actual events.
>>>
>>>No reason to believe that.
>
>>As much reason as there is to believe any of the drivel in your book
>>of superstitions.
>
>The skin off your ass, not mine.
>

That doesn't bother me in the slightest.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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