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What is an Atheist?

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2015-07-11 12:10 -0700
Last post2015-07-14 19:40 +0000
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  What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-11 12:10 -0700
    Re: What is an Atheist? The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> - 2015-07-11 15:23 -0400
      Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-11 14:49 -0500
      Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-11 16:50 -0500
      Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-12 05:49 -0700
        Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-12 10:38 -0500
          Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-12 21:38 +0000
          Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-12 16:55 -0500
            Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-12 19:28 -0700
              Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-12 21:55 -0700
                Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-13 21:07 +0000
                  Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-13 18:53 -0700
                    Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 23:32 -0700
                      Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-14 09:09 -0500
                        Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-14 11:30 -0500
                          Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-14 12:25 -0500
                        Re: What is an Atheist? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 10:39 -0700
                        Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-14 10:56 -0700
                          Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-14 19:29 +0000
                            Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-14 19:49 -0500
                              Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-15 09:56 -0500
                          Re: What is an Atheist? Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2015-07-14 18:20 -0400
                            Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-15 10:11 +0100
                          Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-14 19:48 -0500
                            Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-14 18:54 -0700
                        Re: What is an Atheist? Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 08:51 +0000
                          Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-15 10:00 -0500
              Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 02:10 -0500
          Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-12 15:42 -0700
          Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-12 19:25 -0700
            Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 02:09 -0500
    Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-11 14:46 -0500
      Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-11 16:10 -0500
      Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-12 10:39 -0500
        Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-12 16:58 -0500
    Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-11 21:16 +0000
      Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-11 16:58 -0500
      Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-11 16:49 -0700
        Re: What is an Atheist? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-07-12 01:11 +0000
          Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-11 20:43 -0500
            Re: What is an Atheist? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-07-12 02:21 +0000
              Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-12 10:00 -0500
        Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-12 11:23 +0100
          Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-12 07:50 -0500
          Re: What is an Atheist? Rockinghorse Winner <rhorse@sonic.net> - 2015-07-12 18:40 -0700
            Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 02:09 -0500
        Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-12 21:41 +0000
          Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-12 16:12 -0700
            Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-13 21:11 +0000
              Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 23:16 -0700
                Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-14 19:31 +0000
      Re: What is an Atheist? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-12 11:16 -0500
    Re: What is an Atheist? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-07-13 18:55 +1000
      Re: What is an Atheist? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2015-07-13 04:18 -0700
        Re: What is an Atheist? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-07-14 16:10 +1000
          Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-14 01:37 -0500
          Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-14 01:22 -0700
          Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-14 11:23 +0100
            Re: What is an Atheist? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-07-14 23:09 +1000
              Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-14 08:13 -0500
              Re: What is an Atheist? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-14 17:56 +0200
      Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 08:01 -0500
        Re: What is an Atheist? David Harmon <source@netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 22:04 -0700
          Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-14 11:20 +0100
      Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-13 10:14 -0500
        Re: What is an Atheist? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2015-07-13 13:33 -0700
          Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-13 16:02 -0500
      Re: What is an Atheist? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 14:18 -0400
        Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-13 16:03 -0500
          Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-13 18:54 -0700
      Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 12:05 -0700
        Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-13 20:50 +0100
        Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-13 21:16 +0000
          Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-13 17:23 -0700
            Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 23:19 -0700
              Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-14 19:40 +0000

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#356760 — What is an Atheist?

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-07-11 12:10 -0700
SubjectWhat is an Atheist?
Message-ID<55A16A42.6D0B@ix.netcom.com>
I don't mean
what is the definition
of atheism...
but what exactly is
an Atheist person?

From observation..
it's a person
obbsessed with...God.

Fact is,
Atheist think more
about God than
religious people do.

Most religious people
don't think about God
because they are already
at peace with their God.

Atheist spend most
of their life at
war with their God..
they are simply people
who are not at
peace with the God
inside them.

It's a constant war.

Will they ever find peace?

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#356763

FromThe Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net>
Date2015-07-11 15:23 -0400
Message-ID<mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#356760
The Starmaker said :
> I don't mean
> what is the definition
> of atheism...
> but what exactly is
> an Atheist person?
>
An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as 
their Savior.   And the Pagans are everybody else who refuses to accept 
Jesus Christ of Israel as their Savior.

That's why Evangelicals are superior to every one.  Including that 
Paptist Pope.

The one who believes in socialism and global warming, not the other one 
who is in a converted Nunnery and used to raise his right hand and say 
"Heil Hilter".

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#356766

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-07-11 14:49 -0500
Message-ID<0ls2qat9vm1futrtuhqvlitn7da91n9a6m@4ax.com>
In reply to#356763
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 15:23:43 -0400, The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or
die@yahoo.net> wrote:

>The Starmaker said :
>> I don't mean
>> what is the definition
>> of atheism...
>> but what exactly is
>> an Atheist person?
>>
>An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as 
>their Savior.   And the Pagans are everybody else who refuses to accept 
>Jesus Christ of Israel as their Savior.

well I see that you and harry potter get along well together, but tell
me how is tinkerbell doing these days?

>
>That's why Evangelicals are superior to every one.  Including that 
>Paptist Pope.

Evangelicals  are idiots becaue they believe harry potter is real oh
and tinkerbell

>
>The one who believes in socialism and global warming, not the other one 
>who is in a converted Nunnery and used to raise his right hand and say 
>"Heil Hilter".
>

you are christian, you fully support hitler, pedophilia, rape,
torture, murder

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#356781

FromSimoen <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-07-11 16:50 -0500
Message-ID<mns34q$s2v$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#356763
On 7/11/2015 2:23 PM, The Love of Christ wrote:
> The Starmaker said :
>> I don't mean
>> what is the definition
>> of atheism...
>> but what exactly is
>> an Atheist person?
>>
> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
> their Savior.   And the Pagans are everybody else who refuses to accept
> Jesus Christ of Israel as their Savior.

Jesus Christ never lived in Israel.

<snip rest of flawed scribblings>

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#356852

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2015-07-12 05:49 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-858736.05495012072015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#356763
In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
 The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:

> The Starmaker said :
> > I don't mean
> > what is the definition
> > of atheism...
> > but what exactly is
> > an Atheist person?
> >
> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as 
> their Savior.   


Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever 
existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?

-- 

JD

Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider
evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.

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#356873

FromSimoen <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-07-12 10:38 -0500
Message-ID<mnu1l5$hsj$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#356852
On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>
>> The Starmaker said :
>>> I don't mean
>>> what is the definition
>>> of atheism...
>>> but what exactly is
>>> an Atheist person?
>>>
>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
>> their Savior.
>
>
> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
>

can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever 
existed ?

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#356903

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-07-12 21:38 +0000
Message-ID<mnumpf$1jr$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#356873
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen wrote:

> On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The Starmaker said :
>>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
>>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
>>>>
>>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
>>> their Savior.
>>
>>
>> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
>> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
>>
>>
> can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
> existed ?

Which of her 16 great great great grandfathers are you talking about?
If he didn't exist, how is she here? Her existence is evidence of his 
existence. Unless her great great great grandmother was raped by a 
supposed god, like the supposed Mary supposedly was.

Damn, you *are* stupid.

BTW, I've evidence for my great great great _great_ grandfather.
I even know which town he lived in and the name of his wife, my great 
great great _great_ grandmother.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#356908

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-07-12 16:55 -0500
Message-ID<8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>
In reply to#356873
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The Starmaker said :
>>>> I don't mean
>>>> what is the definition
>>>> of atheism...
>>>> but what exactly is
>>>> an Atheist person?
>>>>
>>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
>>> their Savior.
>>
>>
>> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
>> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
>>
>
>can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever 
>existed ?


actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?

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#356922

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2015-07-12 19:28 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-32AD97.19282412072015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#356908
In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu 
wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
> >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The Starmaker said :
> >>>> I don't mean
> >>>> what is the definition
> >>>> of atheism...
> >>>> but what exactly is
> >>>> an Atheist person?
> >>>>
> >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
> >>> their Savior.
> >>
> >>
> >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
> >> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
> >>
> >
> >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever 
> >existed ?
> 
> 
> actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?

Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather 
was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be 
here.

It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my 
question.

So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as 
Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt 
will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.

-- 

JD

Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider
evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.

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#356934

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-07-12 21:55 -0700
Message-ID<55A344B9.328F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#356922
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> 
> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> The Starmaker said :
> > >>>> I don't mean
> > >>>> what is the definition
> > >>>> of atheism...
> > >>>> but what exactly is
> > >>>> an Atheist person?
> > >>>>
> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
> > >>> their Savior.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
> > >> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
> > >>
> > >
> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
> > >existed ?
> >
> >
> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?
> 
> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather
> was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be
> here.
> 
> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
> question.
> 
> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as
> Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt
> will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.
> 

You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that Jesus Christ existed? Sure the evidence exist
that he existed...

but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.

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#357021

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-07-13 21:07 +0000
Message-ID<mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#356934
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> 
>> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> The Starmaker said :
>> > >>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
>> > >>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of
>> > >>> Israel as their Savior.
>> > >>
>> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person
>> > >> ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their
>> > >> savior?
>> > >>
>> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
>> > >existed ?
>> >
>> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?
>> 
>> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather
>> was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be
>> here.
>> 
>> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
>> question.
>> 
>> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as
>> Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt
>> will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.
>> 
> You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that Jesus
> Christ existed? Sure the evidence exist that he existed...

What evidence would that be?
Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
 
> but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.

And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are true.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#357043

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2015-07-13 18:53 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-1F8F7D.18532913072015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#357021
In article <mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> 
wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >> 
> >> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
> >> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> The Starmaker said :
> >> > >>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
> >> > >>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of
> >> > >>> Israel as their Savior.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person
> >> > >> ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their
> >> > >> savior?
> >> > >>
> >> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
> >> > >existed ?
> >> >
> >> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?
> >> 
> >> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather
> >> was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be
> >> here.
> >> 
> >> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
> >> question.
> >> 
> >> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as
> >> Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt
> >> will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.
> >> 
> > You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that Jesus
> > Christ existed?

What evidence?


> >  Sure the evidence exist that he existed...

What evidence?

I asked you what evidence you have. Why didn't you present the evidence 
you claim to have instead of asking a silly question (if I knew about 
the existence of any such evidence I wouldn't have to ask you).



> What evidence would that be?
> Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>  
> > but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.
> 
> And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are true.


Exactly. There's zero evidence outside the bible (which, of course, it 
NOT evidence) that any such person ever existed.

-- 

JD

Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider
evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.

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#357056

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-07-13 23:32 -0700
Message-ID<55A4ACEE.351F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#357043
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> 
> In article <mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > >>
> > >> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > >> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
> > >> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> The Starmaker said :
> > >> > >>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
> > >> > >>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of
> > >> > >>> Israel as their Savior.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person
> > >> > >> ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their
> > >> > >> savior?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
> > >> > >existed ?
> > >> >
> > >> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?
> > >>
> > >> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather
> > >> was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be
> > >> here.
> > >>
> > >> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
> > >> question.
> > >>
> > >> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as
> > >> Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt
> > >> will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.
> > >>
> > > You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that Jesus
> > > Christ existed?
> 
> What evidence?
> 
> > >  Sure the evidence exist that he existed...
> 
> What evidence?
> 
> I asked you what evidence you have. Why didn't you present the evidence
> you claim to have instead of asking a silly question (if I knew about
> the existence of any such evidence I wouldn't have to ask you).
> 
> > What evidence would that be?
> > Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
> >
> > > but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.
> >
> > And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are true.
> 
> Exactly. There's zero evidence outside the bible (which, of course, it
> NOT evidence) that any such person ever existed.
> 



Are you insane?? Of course Jesus Christ existed! The evidence is
overwhelming!!

Don't tell me they crusified the wrong guy??


What do you think BC abd AD stand for in the calendar? 


You have different people writing about the same guy....it walks like a
duck, talk likes a duck, it's a duck!


Where do you buy your medical marywanna???? Colorado???

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#357080

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-07-14 09:09 -0500
Message-ID<3h5aqaljdc6uoc6g6ahnnmgo733tucduia@4ax.com>
In reply to#357056
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:32:14 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> 
>> In article <mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >
>> > > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> > >> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>> > >> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>> The Starmaker said :
>> > >> > >>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
>> > >> > >>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of
>> > >> > >>> Israel as their Savior.
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person
>> > >> > >> ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their
>> > >> > >> savior?
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
>> > >> > >existed ?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?
>> > >>
>> > >> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather
>> > >> was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be
>> > >> here.
>> > >>
>> > >> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
>> > >> question.
>> > >>
>> > >> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as
>> > >> Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt
>> > >> will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.
>> > >>
>> > > You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that Jesus
>> > > Christ existed?
>> 
>> What evidence?
>> 
>> > >  Sure the evidence exist that he existed...
>> 
>> What evidence?
>> 
>> I asked you what evidence you have. Why didn't you present the evidence
>> you claim to have instead of asking a silly question (if I knew about
>> the existence of any such evidence I wouldn't have to ask you).
>> 
>> > What evidence would that be?
>> > Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
>> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>> >
>> > > but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.
>> >
>> > And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are true.
>> 
>> Exactly. There's zero evidence outside the bible (which, of course, it
>> NOT evidence) that any such person ever existed.
>> 
>
>
>
>Are you insane?? Of course Jesus Christ existed! The evidence is
>overwhelming!!

Present it.

>
>Don't tell me they crusified the wrong guy??

They crucified many many wrong people, but your "jesus christ" was
never put on a cross mainly because it is hard to nail the hands and
feet of a story on a cross

>
>
>What do you think BC abd AD stand for in the calendar? 

ad and bc mean no0thing as far as christ, not any more. Your jesus
feller was supossed to be hace been strung up on 0 bc but it was much
closer to 6 bc. so you see the idiots that wrote the stories could not
even get that crap right
>
>
>You have different people writing about the same guy....it walks like a
>duck, talk likes a duck, it's a duck!

if it types like an idiot and looks like an idiot then starmakes must
be an idiot

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#357090

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2015-07-14 11:30 -0500
Message-ID<01daqa5s9go6hnr19c9ggrvahfe65klu5v@4ax.com>
In reply to#357080
On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 09:09:28 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:32:14 -0700, The Starmaker
><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> 
>>> In article <mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
>>> > >> > wrote:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> > >> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>>> > >> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >>> The Starmaker said :
>>> > >> > >>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
>>> > >> > >>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
>>> > >> > >>>>
>>> > >> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of
>>> > >> > >>> Israel as their Savior.
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person
>>> > >> > >> ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their
>>> > >> > >> savior?
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
>>> > >> > >existed ?
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather
>>> > >> was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be
>>> > >> here.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
>>> > >> question.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as
>>> > >> Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt
>>> > >> will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.
>>> > >>
>>> > > You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that Jesus
>>> > > Christ existed?
>>> 
>>> What evidence?
>>> 
>>> > >  Sure the evidence exist that he existed...
>>> 
>>> What evidence?
>>> 
>>> I asked you what evidence you have. Why didn't you present the evidence
>>> you claim to have instead of asking a silly question (if I knew about
>>> the existence of any such evidence I wouldn't have to ask you).
>>> 
>>> > What evidence would that be?
>>> > Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
>>> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>>> >
>>> > > but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.
>>> >
>>> > And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are true.
>>> 
>>> Exactly. There's zero evidence outside the bible (which, of course, it
>>> NOT evidence) that any such person ever existed.
>>
>>Are you insane?? 

You clearly are, because nothing remotely resembling evidence has
_ever_ been provided.

If there actually were any, Christianity would have provided it long
ago instead of the standard list which includes the obvious later
Christian insertion in Josephus and passages supposed be from Tacitus
and others  that don't even mention him.

It couldn't have been able to keep quiet about it because it is a
conversion religion, and that would be like silver bullets.

>>                                Of course Jesus Christ existed! The evidence is
>>overwhelming!!

None of these Liars For God have ever provided any. Instead they
insist there is and make up all sorts of personal nastiness about who
haven't seen what has never  been provided.

Like the troll calling s/h/itself (pronounced shitself) "the
starmaker".

>Present it.

S/h/it can't, because s/h/it has nothing.

So just like every other theist who has ever made this claim, he turns
both dishonest and nasty.

>>Don't tell me they crusified the wrong guy??

A Zacky-ism.

>They crucified many many wrong people, but your "jesus christ" was
>never put on a cross mainly because it is hard to nail the hands and
>feet of a story on a cross

Jesus is at best a composite figure like Robin Hood, who was made up
when Christianity was transitioning from a cult within Judaism to a
religion for the Mediterranean gentiles

>>What do you think BC abd AD stand for in the calendar? 
>
>ad and bc mean no0thing as far as christ, not any more. Your jesus
>feller was supossed to be hace been strung up on 0 bc but it was much
>closer to 6 bc. so you see the idiots that wrote the stories could not
>even get that crap right

That was when he was supposed to have been born.

>>You have different people writing about the same guy....it walks like a
>>duck, talk likes a duck, it's a duck!

People who got it from the same source. That's all. None of  them met
the supposed historical Jesus. And Paul) who wrote the first stuff)
only dreamed about a spirit "Christ", not a human Jesus.

>if it types like an idiot and looks like an idiot then starmakes must
>be an idiot

S/h/It's a troll - in other words a coward, a psychopath, a bully, a
sadist and a narcissist.

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#357094

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-07-14 12:25 -0500
Message-ID<gfhaqah4jnfgskk637tigp1lht7hdbq0hv@4ax.com>
In reply to#357090
On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 11:30:37 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 09:09:28 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:32:14 -0700, The Starmaker
>><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In article <mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
>>>> > >> > wrote:
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>> > >> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>>>> > >> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>>>> > >> > >>
>>>> > >> > >>> The Starmaker said :
>>>> > >> > >>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
>>>> > >> > >>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
>>>> > >> > >>>>
>>>> > >> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of
>>>> > >> > >>> Israel as their Savior.
>>>> > >> > >>
>>>> > >> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person
>>>> > >> > >> ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their
>>>> > >> > >> savior?
>>>> > >> > >>
>>>> > >> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
>>>> > >> > >existed ?
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather
>>>> > >> was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be
>>>> > >> here.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
>>>> > >> question.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as
>>>> > >> Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt
>>>> > >> will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > > You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that Jesus
>>>> > > Christ existed?
>>>> 
>>>> What evidence?
>>>> 
>>>> > >  Sure the evidence exist that he existed...
>>>> 
>>>> What evidence?
>>>> 
>>>> I asked you what evidence you have. Why didn't you present the evidence
>>>> you claim to have instead of asking a silly question (if I knew about
>>>> the existence of any such evidence I wouldn't have to ask you).
>>>> 
>>>> > What evidence would that be?
>>>> > Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
>>>> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>>>> >
>>>> > > but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.
>>>> >
>>>> > And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are true.
>>>> 
>>>> Exactly. There's zero evidence outside the bible (which, of course, it
>>>> NOT evidence) that any such person ever existed.
>>>
>>>Are you insane?? 
>
>You clearly are, because nothing remotely resembling evidence has
>_ever_ been provided.
>
>If there actually were any, Christianity would have provided it long
>ago instead of the standard list which includes the obvious later
>Christian insertion in Josephus and passages supposed be from Tacitus
>and others  that don't even mention him.
>
>It couldn't have been able to keep quiet about it because it is a
>conversion religion, and that would be like silver bullets.
>
>>>                                Of course Jesus Christ existed! The evidence is
>>>overwhelming!!
>
>None of these Liars For God have ever provided any. Instead they
>insist there is and make up all sorts of personal nastiness about who
>haven't seen what has never  been provided.
>
>Like the troll calling s/h/itself (pronounced shitself) "the
>starmaker".
>
>>Present it.
>
>S/h/it can't, because s/h/it has nothing.
>
>So just like every other theist who has ever made this claim, he turns
>both dishonest and nasty.
>
>>>Don't tell me they crusified the wrong guy??
>
>A Zacky-ism.
>
>>They crucified many many wrong people, but your "jesus christ" was
>>never put on a cross mainly because it is hard to nail the hands and
>>feet of a story on a cross
>
>Jesus is at best a composite figure like Robin Hood, who was made up
>when Christianity was transitioning from a cult within Judaism to a
>religion for the Mediterranean gentiles
>
>>>What do you think BC abd AD stand for in the calendar? 
>>
>>ad and bc mean no0thing as far as christ, not any more. Your jesus
>>feller was supossed to be hace been strung up on 0 bc but it was much
>>closer to 6 bc. so you see the idiots that wrote the stories could not
>>even get that crap right
>
>That was when he was supposed to have been born.

yeah my bad.... but the meaning is the same

>
>>>You have different people writing about the same guy....it walks like a
>>>duck, talk likes a duck, it's a duck!
>
>People who got it from the same source. That's all. None of  them met
>the supposed historical Jesus. And Paul) who wrote the first stuff)
>only dreamed about a spirit "Christ", not a human Jesus.
>
>>if it types like an idiot and looks like an idiot then starmakes must
>>be an idiot
>
>S/h/It's a troll - in other words a coward, a psychopath, a bully, a
>sadist and a narcissist.

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#357099

From"%" <persent@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-14 10:39 -0700
Message-ID<8k06qq.653.19.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#357080
bilgat@m.nu wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:32:14 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
>> Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> 
>>> In article <mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>,
>>>>>> bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>>>>>>>>>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker said :
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
>>>>>>>>>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of
>>>>>>>>>> Israel as their Savior.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such
>>>>>>>>> person ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as
>>>>>>>>> their savior?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather
>>>>>>>> ever existed ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of
>>>>>>> ancestory.com? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great
>>>>>> grandfather was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists
>>>>>> or I wouldn't be here.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
>>>>>> question.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such
>>>>>> person as Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another
>>>>>> deflection attempt will be taken as a confession that you have
>>>>>> no such evidence. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that
>>>>> Jesus Christ existed?
>>> 
>>> What evidence?
>>> 
>>>>>  Sure the evidence exist that he existed...
>>> 
>>> What evidence?
>>> 
>>> I asked you what evidence you have. Why didn't you present the
>>> evidence 
>>> you claim to have instead of asking a silly question (if I knew
>>> about 
>>> the existence of any such evidence I wouldn't have to ask you).
>>> 
>>>> What evidence would that be?
>>>> Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
>>>> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>>>> 
>>>>> but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.
>>>> 
>>>> And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are true.
>>> 
>>> Exactly. There's zero evidence outside the bible (which, of course,
>>> it 
>>> NOT evidence) that any such person ever existed.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Are you insane?? Of course Jesus Christ existed! The evidence is
>> overwhelming!!
> 
> Present it.
> 
>> 
>> Don't tell me they crusified the wrong guy??
> 
> They crucified many many wrong people, but your "jesus christ" was
> never put on a cross mainly because it is hard to nail the hands and
> feet of a story on a cross
> 
>> 
>> 
>> What do you think BC abd AD stand for in the calendar?
> 
> ad and bc mean no0thing as far as christ, not any more. Your jesus
> feller was supossed to be hace been strung up on 0 bc but it was much
> closer to 6 bc. so you see the idiots that wrote the stories could not
> even get that crap right
>> 
>> 
>> You have different people writing about the same guy....it walks
>> like a 
>> duck, talk likes a duck, it's a duck!
> 
> if it types like an idiot and looks like an idiot then starmakes must
> be an idiot

idiot

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#357102

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-07-14 10:56 -0700
Message-ID<55A54D45.7EDC@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#357080
bilgat@m.nu wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:32:14 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
> >> > >> > wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >> > >> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
> >> > >> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>> The Starmaker said :
> >> > >> > >>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
> >> > >> > >>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
> >> > >> > >>>>
> >> > >> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of
> >> > >> > >>> Israel as their Savior.
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person
> >> > >> > >> ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their
> >> > >> > >> savior?
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
> >> > >> > >existed ?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather
> >> > >> was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be
> >> > >> here.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
> >> > >> question.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as
> >> > >> Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt
> >> > >> will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.
> >> > >>
> >> > > You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that Jesus
> >> > > Christ existed?
> >>
> >> What evidence?
> >>
> >> > >  Sure the evidence exist that he existed...
> >>
> >> What evidence?
> >>
> >> I asked you what evidence you have. Why didn't you present the evidence
> >> you claim to have instead of asking a silly question (if I knew about
> >> the existence of any such evidence I wouldn't have to ask you).
> >>
> >> > What evidence would that be?
> >> > Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
> >> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
> >> >
> >> > > but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.
> >> >
> >> > And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are true.
> >>
> >> Exactly. There's zero evidence outside the bible (which, of course, it
> >> NOT evidence) that any such person ever existed.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >Are you insane?? Of course Jesus Christ existed! The evidence is
> >overwhelming!!
> 
> Present it.

lots of guys wrote about jesus christ who had nothing to do with the
bible.
they just happen to be living at that time...among other famous people.
and they all describe the same guy.

You think everybody was lying about one guy? That don't make no sense.



> 
> >
> >Don't tell me they crusified the wrong guy??
> 
> They crucified many many wrong people, but your "jesus christ" was
> never put on a cross mainly because it is hard to nail the hands and
> feet of a story on a cross
> 
> >
> >
> >What do you think BC abd AD stand for in the calendar?
> 
> ad and bc mean no0thing as far as christ, not any more. 


https://www.google.com/#q=define+b.c

B.C. means Before Christ. 


Do you know what A.D. stands for? It means After he fucking Died.


Now go back to skool and learn you abcd's...

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#357115

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-07-14 19:29 +0000
Message-ID<mo3nvc$ohc$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#357102
On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 10:56:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:32:14 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In article <mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>,
>> >> > >> bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen
>> >> > >> > <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>> >> > >> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>> >> > >> > >>
>> >> > >> > >>> The Starmaker said :
>> >> > >> > >>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
>> >> > >> > >>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
>> >> > >> > >>>>
>> >> > >> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ
>> >> > >> > >>> of Israel as their Savior.
>> >> > >> > >>
>> >> > >> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such
>> >> > >> > >> person ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him
>> >> > >> > >> as their savior?
>> >> > >> > >>
>> >> > >> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great
>> >> > >> > >grandfather ever existed ?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of
>> >> > >> > ancestory.com?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great
>> >> > >> grandfather was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists
>> >> > >> or I wouldn't be here.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering
>> >> > >> my question.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such
>> >> > >> person as Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another
>> >> > >> deflection attempt will be taken as a confession that you have
>> >> > >> no such evidence.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > > You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that
>> >> > > Jesus Christ existed?
>> >>
>> >> What evidence?
>> >>
>> >> > >  Sure the evidence exist that he existed...
>> >>
>> >> What evidence?
>> >>
>> >> I asked you what evidence you have. Why didn't you present the
>> >> evidence you claim to have instead of asking a silly question (if I
>> >> knew about the existence of any such evidence I wouldn't have to ask
>> >> you).
>> >>
>> >> > What evidence would that be?
>> >> > Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
>> >> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>> >> >
>> >> > > but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.
>> >> >
>> >> > And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are
>> >> > true.
>> >>
>> >> Exactly. There's zero evidence outside the bible (which, of course,
>> >> it NOT evidence) that any such person ever existed.
>> >
>> >Are you insane?? Of course Jesus Christ existed! The evidence is
>> >overwhelming!!
>> 
>> Present it.

Avoidance noted.
 
> lots of guys wrote about jesus christ who had nothing to do with the
> bible.

Name some of them.

> they just happen to be living at that time...among other famous people.
> and they all describe the same guy.

Prove it.

> You think everybody was lying about one guy? That don't make no sense.

I _know_ you're lying about having evidence.

>> 
>> >Don't tell me they crusified the wrong guy??
>> 
>> They crucified many many wrong people, but your "jesus christ" was
>> never put on a cross mainly because it is hard to nail the hands and
>> feet of a story on a cross
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> >What do you think BC abd AD stand for in the calendar?
>> 
>> ad and bc mean no0thing as far as christ, not any more.
> 
> 
> https://www.google.com/#q=define+b.c
> 
> B.C. means Before Christ.

Just a common notation for dates.
By your argument, Thursday proves Thor existed, Friday proves Freya 
existed and June proves Juno existed.

> Do you know what A.D. stands for? It means After he fucking Died.

That's how I want to go, dying whilst fucking.
 
> Now go back to skool and learn you abcd's...

Project much, Zacky?

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#357156

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-07-14 19:49 -0500
Message-ID<8fbbqahk14odgmita5an5t1ic8ehqibdqv@4ax.com>
In reply to#357115
On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:29:48 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 10:56:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>
>> bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:32:14 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> In article <mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>,
>>> >> > >> bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen
>>> >> > >> > <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> >> > >> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>>> >> > >> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>>> >> > >> > >>
>>> >> > >> > >>> The Starmaker said :
>>> >> > >> > >>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
>>> >> > >> > >>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
>>> >> > >> > >>>>
>>> >> > >> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ
>>> >> > >> > >>> of Israel as their Savior.
>>> >> > >> > >>
>>> >> > >> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such
>>> >> > >> > >> person ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him
>>> >> > >> > >> as their savior?
>>> >> > >> > >>
>>> >> > >> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great
>>> >> > >> > >grandfather ever existed ?
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of
>>> >> > >> > ancestory.com?
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great
>>> >> > >> grandfather was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists
>>> >> > >> or I wouldn't be here.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering
>>> >> > >> my question.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such
>>> >> > >> person as Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another
>>> >> > >> deflection attempt will be taken as a confession that you have
>>> >> > >> no such evidence.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > > You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that
>>> >> > > Jesus Christ existed?
>>> >>
>>> >> What evidence?
>>> >>
>>> >> > >  Sure the evidence exist that he existed...
>>> >>
>>> >> What evidence?
>>> >>
>>> >> I asked you what evidence you have. Why didn't you present the
>>> >> evidence you claim to have instead of asking a silly question (if I
>>> >> knew about the existence of any such evidence I wouldn't have to ask
>>> >> you).
>>> >>
>>> >> > What evidence would that be?
>>> >> > Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
>>> >> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are
>>> >> > true.
>>> >>
>>> >> Exactly. There's zero evidence outside the bible (which, of course,
>>> >> it NOT evidence) that any such person ever existed.
>>> >
>>> >Are you insane?? Of course Jesus Christ existed! The evidence is
>>> >overwhelming!!
>>> 
>>> Present it.
>
>Avoidance noted.

you are the one avoiding the question. you are an idiot

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