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  Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 18:43 +0000
    Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 18:47 +0000
      Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-15 22:20 +0200
        Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 20:29 +0000
      Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-16 03:13 -0700
    Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-15 22:09 +0200
      Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 20:25 +0000
        Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-15 23:36 +0200
          Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 21:46 +0000
    Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-16 15:26 +0200
      Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-16 13:37 +0000

#367179 — Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature

Big trouble in Relativity, having light data they can't interpret.
Curvature of spacetime is not there.

Astronomers may have found giant alien 'megastructures' orbiting
star near the Milky Way
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

Kepler works by analysing light from distant places in the universe
— looking for changes that take place when planets move in front of 
their stars. But the dip in starlight from KIC 8462852 doesn't seem
to be the normal pattern for a planet.

Tabetha Boyajian, a postdoc at Yale told The Atlantic: “We’d never 
seen anything like this star. It was really weird. We thought it might
be bad data or movement on the spacecraft, but everything checked out.”

Planet Hunters X. KIC 8462852 – Where’s the flux?
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622v1.pdf

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#367183

Euclid Baumann wrote:

> Big trouble in Relativity, having light data they can't interpret.
> Curvature of spacetime is not there.

"In this paper, we describe various scenarios to explain the mysterious
events in the Kepler light curve, most of which have problems explaining
the data in hand."

Planet Hunters X. KIC 8462852 – Where’s the flux?
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622v1.pdf

Another "faulty connected cable"?

> Tabetha Boyajian, a postdoc at Yale told The Atlantic: “We’d never 
> seen anything like this star. It was really weird. We thought it might
> be bad data or movement on the spacecraft, but everything checked out.”

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#367196

Euclid Baumann wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Liar.

> Euclid Baumann wrote:
>> Big trouble in Relativity, having light data they can't interpret.
>> Curvature of spacetime is not there.
> 
> "In this paper, we describe various scenarios to explain the mysterious
> events in the Kepler light curve, most of which have problems explaining
> the data in hand."

The light curve of a star has nothing to do with the curvature of spacetime 
that causes light to describe curved trajectories in 3-space.

Instead, it is the curve drawn of the intensity of the light of a star as 
visible to the observer (and their instruments).  So if a planet moves in 
front of the star as seen by the observer, there is a small but measurable 
reduction in the intensity of the star’s light, visualized as a drop, or 
valley, in the star’s light curve.  This allows astronomers to find 
exoplanets (also: extrasolar planets), those in orbit around stars other 
than the Sun (Sol) – about 2000 by now.

See also: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_curve> pp.

Therefore:

> Planet Hunters X. KIC 8462852 – Where’s the flux?
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622v1.pdf

> Another "faulty connected cable"?

No, but now you can add planet hunting to the already very long list of what 
you have not the slightest clue about.


PointedEars
-- 
Q: What happens when electrons lose their energy?  
A: They get Bohr'ed.

(from: WolframAlpha)

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#367199

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

> Therefore:
> 
>> Planet Hunters X. KIC 8462852 – Where’s the flux?
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622v1.pdf
> 
>> Another "faulty connected cable"?
> 
> No, but now you can add planet hunting to the already very long list of
> what you have not the slightest clue about.

Get lost, cretin. You are ways too uneducated to be able to participate at 
the scientific discussions around here.

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#367246

W dniu czwartek, 15 października 2015 22:20:04 UTC+2 użytkownik Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn napisał:

> The light curve of a star has nothing to do with the curvature of spacetime 
> that causes light to prescribe curved trajectories in 3-space.

According to The Shit, poor idiot, 3-space is curved
too, and its trajectories of light (in vacuum) are 
not curved, but straight/geodesic.

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#367191

Euclid Baumann wrote:

> Big trouble in Relativity, having light data they can't interpret.
> Curvature of spacetime is not there.
> 
> Astronomers may have found giant alien 'megastructures' orbiting
> star near the Milky Way
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

None of what you are citing corroborates your claim.

But then again, you are just the ’nym-shifting troll, well known for their 
defective understanding of the English language.


PointedEars
-- 
Q: Why is electricity so dangerous?  
A: It doesn't conduct itself.

(from: WolframAlpha)

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#367197

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

> Euclid Baumann wrote:
> 
>> Big trouble in Relativity, having light data they can't interpret.
>> Curvature of spacetime is not there.
>> 
>> Astronomers may have found giant alien 'megastructures' orbiting star
>> near the Milky Way
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-
astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-
near-a6693886.html
> 
> None of what you are citing corroborates your claim.

Must be just you, a cretin, unqualified to read a scientific article.

Planet Hunters X. KIC 8462852 – Where’s the flux?
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622v1.pdf

I got it, you want a movie in stead of, lol

'Alien' Megastructure Found Around a Star claims Researchers 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6qxbQWDdM

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#367213

The ’nym-shifting troll wrote as “Euclid Baumann”:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Euclid Baumann wrote:
>>> Big trouble in Relativity, having light data they can't interpret.
>>> Curvature of spacetime is not there.
>>> 
>>> Astronomers may have found giant alien 'megastructures' orbiting star
>>> near the Milky Way
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars->>> astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-
>>> star-near-a6693886.html
>> 
>> None of what you are citing corroborates your claim.
> 
> Must be just you, a cretin, unqualified to read a scientific article.
> 
> Planet Hunters X. KIC 8462852 – Where’s the flux?
> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622v1.pdf

“ABSTRACT

Over the duration of the Kepler mission, KIC 8462852 was observed to undergo 
irregularly shaped, aperiodic dips in flux down to below the 20% level. The 
dipping activity can last for between 5 and 80 days. We characterize the 
object with high-resolution spectroscopy, spectral energy distribution 
fitting, and Fourier analyses of the Kepler light curve.”

Again, it is a very simple optical effect, and you do not need Einstein for 
that; it has nothing to do with the disproof of relativity claimed by you.  
Newton suffices there, even Galilei.  To see how it works, move your thumb 
in front of any light source, say a lamp.  As the (half-)shadow passes over 
your eyes, you observe the light source growing dimmer and then brighter 
again.  If you would draw a curve into a coordinate system where the 
abscissa would specify time and the ordinate the intensity of the light 
hitting your eye, it would look approximately as follows:

   I (in W/m²)
   ^
   |
   + ----.        .-----
   |      `.    ,'
   |        `--'
   |
   | 
   '--------------------> t

And *that* is a light curve.

> I got it, you want a movie in stead of, lol
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^
I would prefer if you used a proper name and proper English first.
 
> 'Alien' Megastructure Found Around a Star claims Researchers
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6qxbQWDdM

See above.


PointedEars
-- 
Q: Who's on the case when the electricity goes out?  
A: Sherlock Ohms.

(from: WolframAlpha)

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#367215

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

>> I got it, you want a movie in stead of, lol
>                              ^^^^^^^^^^^
> I would prefer if you used a proper name and proper English first.
>  
>> 'Alien' Megastructure Found Around a Star claims Researchers
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6qxbQWDdM
> 
> See above.

Now you can't even read English, then dare to cut&paste parts of scinetific 
articles on internet without written authorisation and permission, 
something which is illegal in many countries. Even monkeys can cut&paste 
text understanding more than you do.

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#367258

On 15.10.2015 20:43, Euclid Baumann wrote:
> []

Nymshifting troll!

plonk

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#367259

Paul B. Andersen wrote:

> On 15.10.2015 20:43, Euclid Baumann wrote:
>> [] Nymshifting troll! plonk

Typical classroom example of an attitude and behavioural performed by a 
stupid useless usenet troll.

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