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British astronaut to travel to ISS

Started byJason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org>
First post2015-12-14 17:15 +0000
Last post2015-12-15 20:17 -0600
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  British astronaut to travel to ISS Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 17:15 +0000
    Re: British astronaut to travel to ISS Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 21:15 +0000
    Re: British astronaut to travel to ISS Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-14 22:40 +0100
      Re: British astronaut to travel to ISS Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 22:15 +0000
        Re: British astronaut to travel to ISS pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-14 15:33 -0800
          Re: British astronaut to travel to ISS Jürgen Großenbuch <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-15 15:12 +0000
            Re: British astronaut to travel to ISS gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-15 09:56 -0600
            Re: British astronaut to travel to ISS pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-15 11:43 -0800
              Re: British astronaut to travel to ISS Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-15 22:27 +0000
                Re: British astronaut to travel to ISS paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 15:04 -0800
                  Re: British astronaut to travel to ISS Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-15 23:55 +0000
        Re: British astronaut to travel to ISS gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-15 09:54 -0600
          Re: British astronaut to travel to ISS Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-15 16:03 +0000
            Re: British astronaut to travel to ISS gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-15 20:17 -0600

#372014 — British astronaut to travel to ISS

FromJason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org>
Date2015-12-14 17:15 +0000
SubjectBritish astronaut to travel to ISS
Message-ID<n4mtfp$4v6$1@speranza.aioe.org>
British astronaut to travel to International Space Station
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-12/14/c_134916462.htm

"Tim Peake will become Britain's first official astronaut to visit the 
International Space Station(ISS) if his mission, which will start from a 
launch center in Kazakhstan at 11:03 a.m. (GMT) on Tuesday, becomes 
successful."

:)

Aren't knowing what the word *astro* stands for. How can you have an 
astronaut without a celestial body?

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#372030

FromJason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org>
Date2015-12-14 21:15 +0000
Message-ID<n4nbht$6h2$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#372014
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) reber g=emc^2 wrote:

>> Aren't knowing what the word *astro* stands for. How can you have an
>> astronaut without a celestial body?
> 
> Hope he can speak Russian and Chinese. Is he using Russian rockets?We
> have no man in space going with our Micky Mouse shuttles.Sad but GOP
> Mafia NASA

Shouldn't that shuttle be recyclable and cheaper to maintain?

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#372034

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2015-12-14 22:40 +0100
Message-ID<3576720.maQL18q2le@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#372014
The ’nym-shifting troll wrote as “Jason Wyome”:

> British astronaut to travel to International Space Station
> http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-12/14/c_134916462.htm
> 
> "Tim Peake will become Britain's first official astronaut to visit the
> International Space Station(ISS) if his mission, which will start from a
> launch center in Kazakhstan at 11:03 a.m. (GMT) on Tuesday, becomes
> successful."
> 
> :)
> 
> Aren't knowing what the word *astro* stands for. How can you have an
> astronaut without a celestial body?

You are such an obnoxious idiot.  OK, sorry, that wasn’t news.

An astronaut actually does _not_ require a celestial body.   But if you need 
to split hairs, the space station is the “celestial body” here as it is 
outside Earth’s atmosphere.

Now FOAD.

*PLONK*


PointedEars
-- 
Q: How many theoretical physicists specializing in general relativity
   does it take to change a light bulb?  
A: Two: one to hold the bulb and one to rotate the universe.
(from: WolframAlpha)

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#372038

FromJason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org>
Date2015-12-14 22:15 +0000
Message-ID<n4nf1r$e9f$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#372034
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

>> Aren't knowing what the word *astro* stands for. How can you have an
>> astronaut without a celestial body?
> 
> You are such an obnoxious idiot.  OK, sorry, that wasn’t news.
> An astronaut actually does _not_ require a celestial body.   But if you
> need to split hairs, the space station is the “celestial body” here as
> it is outside Earth’s atmosphere.

The use of "obnoxious" is incorrect, sir. The people of the entire earth 
can't be "astronauts". Would be an abuse of language and terminology. A 
false declaration of the product. You need to land on a celestial body, to 
become an "astronaut". This is what "astronaut" stands for. Landing on 
other planets.

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#372045

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2015-12-14 15:33 -0800
Message-ID<28f553a7-6f46-4e06-939e-324436d5f43b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#372038
On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 2:15:29 PM UTC-8, Jason Wyome wrote:

> You need to land on a celestial body, to 
> become an "astronaut". This is what "astronaut" stands for. Landing on 
> other planets.

No, you don't get to change a word's definition, that's what dictionaries are for, to tell us what words mean...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/astronaut

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/astronaut

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/astronaut

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#372076

FromJürgen Großenbuch <jurgengb@adenauer.org>
Date2015-12-15 15:12 +0000
Message-ID<n4palj$k14$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#372045
pnalsing wrote:

> On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 2:15:29 PM UTC-8, Jason Wyome wrote:
> 
>> You need to land on a celestial body, to become an "astronaut". This is
>> what "astronaut" stands for. Landing on other planets.
> 
> No, you don't get to change a word's definition, that's what
> dictionaries are for, to tell us what words mean...

Since you want to stay stupid, be it. Usenet is a free country. The point 
I guess was that the Russian are correctly entitled COSMONAUTS, known they 
have the highest competence in space exploration. Astronauts is a wannabe 
wrong attribute from '60s aimed to let the morons think they land on 
astres. They don't. And the proof is given above by Jason.

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#372080

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-12-15 09:56 -0600
Message-ID<n4pd8d$qn7$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#372076
On 12/15/2015 9:12 AM, Jürgen Großenbuch wrote:
> pnalsing wrote:
>
>> On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 2:15:29 PM UTC-8, Jason Wyome wrote:
>>
>>> You need to land on a celestial body, to become an "astronaut". This is
>>> what "astronaut" stands for. Landing on other planets.
>>
>> No, you don't get to change a word's definition, that's what
>> dictionaries are for, to tell us what words mean...
>
> Since you want to stay stupid, be it. Usenet is a free country. The point
> I guess was that the Russian are correctly entitled COSMONAUTS, known they
> have the highest competence in space exploration. Astronauts is a wannabe
> wrong attribute from '60s aimed to let the morons think they land on
> astres. They don't. And the proof is given above by Jason.

wrong also, "yǔ háng yuán" Chinese,

wiki for it:

Chinese

Official English-language texts issued by the government of China use 
astronaut while texts in Russian use космонавт (cosmonaut).[20][21] In 
official Chinese-language texts, "yǔ háng yuán" (宇航员, "space 
navigating personnel") is used for astronauts and cosmonauts, and "háng 
tiān yuán" (航天员, "space navigating personnel") is used for Chinese 
astronauts. The phrase "tài kōng rén" (太空人, "spaceman") is often used 
in Hong Kong and Taiwan.[22]

The term taikonaut is used by some English-language news media 
organizations for professional space travelers from China.[23] The word 
has featured in the Longman and Oxford English dictionaries, the latter 
of which describes it as "a hybrid of the Chinese term taikong (space) 
and the Greek naut (sailor)"; the term became more common in 2003 when 
China sent its first astronaut Yang Liwei into space aboard the Shenzhou 
5 spacecraft.[24] This is the term used by Xinhua News Agency in the 
English version of the Chinese People's Daily since the advent of the 
Chinese space program.[25] The origin of the term is unclear; as early 
as May 1998, Chiew Lee Yih (趙裡昱) from Malaysia, used it in 
newsgroups.[26][27]

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#372089

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2015-12-15 11:43 -0800
Message-ID<9bc57c0e-326a-4743-9fc0-f14a2de53953@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#372076
On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 7:12:55 AM UTC-8, Jürgen Großenbuch wrote:
> pnalsing wrote:
> 
> > On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 2:15:29 PM UTC-8, Jason Wyome wrote:
> > 
> >> You need to land on a celestial body, to become an "astronaut". This is
> >> what "astronaut" stands for. Landing on other planets.
> > 
> > No, you don't get to change a word's definition, that's what
> > dictionaries are for, to tell us what words mean...
> 
> Since you want to stay stupid, be it. Usenet is a free country. The point 
> I guess was that the Russian are correctly entitled COSMONAUTS, known they 
> have the highest competence in space exploration. Astronauts is a wannabe 
> wrong attribute from '60s aimed to let the morons think they land on 
> astres. They don't. And the proof is given above by Jason.

Astronauts and cosmonauts are exactly the same thing...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronaut

"An astronaut or cosmonaut is a person trained by a human spaceflight program to command, pilot, or serve as a crew member of a spacecraft."

If you have a reliable source that says otherwise, let's see it.

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#372099

FromJürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org>
Date2015-12-15 22:27 +0000
Message-ID<n4q43s$hsb$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#372089
pnalsing wrote:

> "An astronaut or cosmonaut is a person trained by a human spaceflight
> program to command, pilot, or serve as a crew member of a spacecraft."

Which is monstrous, in a grammar having two distinct apart terminology 
defining same thing. Finally you got the point.

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#372101

Frompaparios <paparios@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-15 15:04 -0800
Message-ID<c6437033-1fb1-4ebe-91f1-306dd99fd163@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#372099
El martes, 15 de diciembre de 2015, 19:27:13 (UTC-3), Jürgen Großenbach  escribió:
> pnalsing wrote:
> 
> > "An astronaut or cosmonaut is a person trained by a human spaceflight
> > program to command, pilot, or serve as a crew member of a spacecraft."
> 
> Which is monstrous, in a grammar having two distinct apart terminology 
> defining same thing. Finally you got the point.

Like you being both a moron and an idiot troll.

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#372106

FromJürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org>
Date2015-12-15 23:55 +0000
Message-ID<n4q99k$sm7$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#372101
paparios wrote:

> El martes, 15 de diciembre de 2015, 19:27:13 (UTC-3), Jürgen Großenbach 
> escribió:
>> pnalsing wrote:
>> 
>> > "An astronaut or cosmonaut is a person trained by a human spaceflight
>> > program to command, pilot, or serve as a crew member of a
>> > spacecraft."
>> 
>> Which is monstrous, in a grammar having two distinct apart terminology
>> defining same thing. Finally you got the point.
> 
> Like you being both a moron and an idiot troll.

You miss the point. Moron, idiot and troll are completely different 
things. May target same person, yes, but each of which encompresses 
completely different characteristics. Btw, why so angry and not happy?

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#372079

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-12-15 09:54 -0600
Message-ID<n4pd4j$qn7$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#372038
On 12/14/2015 4:15 PM, Jason Wyome wrote:
> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>
>>> Aren't knowing what the word *astro* stands for. How can you have an
>>> astronaut without a celestial body?
>>
>> You are such an obnoxious idiot.  OK, sorry, that wasn’t news.
>> An astronaut actually does _not_ require a celestial body.   But if you
>> need to split hairs, the space station is the “celestial body” here as
>> it is outside Earth’s atmosphere.
>
> The use of "obnoxious" is incorrect, sir. The people of the entire earth
> can't be "astronauts". Would be an abuse of language and terminology. A
> false declaration of the product. You need to land on a celestial body, to
> become an "astronaut". This is what "astronaut" stands for. Landing on
> other planets.
>

not so; I correct you, sir: "star sailor"

     wiki:

English

In English-speaking nations, a professional space traveler is called an 
astronaut.[14] The term derives from the Greek words ástron (ἄστρον), 
meaning "star", and nautes (ναύτης), meaning "sailor". The first known 
use of the term "astronaut" in the modern sense was by Neil R. Jones in 
his short story "The Death's Head Meteor" in 1930. The word itself had 
been known earlier. For example, in Percy Greg's 1880 book Across the 
Zodiac, "astronaut" referred to a spacecraft. In Les Navigateurs de 
l'Infini (1925) of J.-H. Rosny aîné, the word astronautique 
(astronautic) was used. The word may have been inspired by "aeronaut", 
an older term for an air traveler first applied (in 1784) to 
balloonists. An early use in a non-fiction publication is Eric Frank 
Russell's poem "The Astronaut" in the November 1934 Bulletin of the 
British Interplanetary Society.[15]

The first known formal use of the term astronautics in the scientific 
community was the establishment of the annual International 
Astronautical Congress in 1950 and the subsequent founding of the 
International Astronautical Federation the following year.[16]

NASA applies the term astronaut to any crew member aboard NASA 
spacecraft bound for Earth orbit or beyond. NASA also uses the term as a 
title for those selected to join its Astronaut Corps.[17] The European 
Space Agency similarly uses the term astronaut for members of its 
Astronaut Corps.[18]

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#372081

FromJürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org>
Date2015-12-15 16:03 +0000
Message-ID<n4pdkb$rst$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#372079
gilber34 wrote:

> NASA applies the term astronaut to any crew member aboard NASA
> spacecraft bound for Earth orbit or beyond. NASA also uses the term as a
> title for those selected to join its Astronaut Corps.[17] The European
> Space Agency similarly uses the term astronaut for members of its
> Astronaut Corps.[18]

Which is a hollywoodish abuse of language and terminology, since none of 
those wannabe sailors "sailed" to stars or any other planets.

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#372115

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-12-15 20:17 -0600
Message-ID<n4qhjf$cgf$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#372081
On 12/15/2015 10:03 AM, Jürgen Großenbach wrote:
> gilber34 wrote:
>
>> NASA applies the term astronaut to any crew member aboard NASA
>> spacecraft bound for Earth orbit or beyond. NASA also uses the term as a
>> title for those selected to join its Astronaut Corps.[17] The European
>> Space Agency similarly uses the term astronaut for members of its
>> Astronaut Corps.[18]
>
> Which is a hollywoodish abuse of language and terminology, since none of
> those wannabe sailors "sailed" to stars or any other planets.
>

checkout "Dark Star"  first movie by John Carpenter,  a dude is surfin 
in space.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Star_%28film%29


this is a must see movie, if you ever have liked B  sci fi movies...

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