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| Started by | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| First post | 2018-02-28 08:32 -0800 |
| Last post | 2018-03-16 10:47 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 542 — 30 participants |
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Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 08:32 -0800
Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-02-28 09:22 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 09:26 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-02-28 09:37 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 09:48 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-02-28 10:01 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 11:56 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-01 21:00 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 14:14 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-02 13:27 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ický Bezdrátovì <ikbe@wmkfre.np> - 2018-03-02 12:34 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-02 05:59 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-02 09:47 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-02 00:05 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 17:26 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 09:42 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-02-28 09:50 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 09:55 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-02-28 10:05 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 12:06 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 12:22 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-02-28 13:00 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-02-28 13:23 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-02-28 14:16 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-02-28 13:21 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 13:30 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-02-28 13:44 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 13:56 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-02-28 19:25 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-02-28 10:48 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 12:13 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-02-28 13:58 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 14:02 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-02-28 15:31 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 07:49 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-01 10:00 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 13:30 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-02-28 12:36 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-02-28 21:33 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 13:07 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 13:17 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-01 21:42 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 14:23 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-02-28 13:34 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 13:43 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-02-28 14:11 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 07:40 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-03-01 11:26 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 13:59 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-01 14:08 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 15:09 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-01 17:16 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-02 09:16 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-03-01 14:47 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-02 08:55 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-03-02 09:43 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-02 13:19 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-03-02 18:01 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 09:32 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-03-03 09:55 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-03 10:06 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 10:21 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-03-03 11:36 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 18:45 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-02 06:49 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-01 13:26 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 08:31 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-02-28 18:48 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-01 13:40 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-01 17:26 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-01 20:26 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-01 21:44 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-02 11:44 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-02 13:28 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-01 13:18 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-02 00:08 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 08:38 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-01 17:42 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-01 09:13 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 09:10 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-01 13:31 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 14:55 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 14:24 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-02 07:01 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-02 13:01 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-02 08:48 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 10:30 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-02 13:36 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 13:57 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-02 14:21 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 15:41 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-02 15:58 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 08:57 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-03 09:10 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity dancouriann@gmail.com - 2018-03-03 12:18 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 15:08 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-04 09:12 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity dancouriann@gmail.com - 2018-03-05 09:15 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-05 10:09 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 18:32 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-05 10:43 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 18:47 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-05 11:15 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 20:21 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-05 12:29 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 22:54 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 10:51 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-05 19:00 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 14:10 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-05 22:41 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 14:48 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-05 22:56 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 15:47 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-06 15:50 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 12:51 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-07 23:19 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-05 13:20 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-05 21:23 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 14:39 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 14:38 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 10:02 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 13:24 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 14:34 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-06 14:56 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 03:21 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 21:19 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 15:56 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 09:21 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 10:06 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 10:27 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-03 10:37 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 10:53 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 14:16 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 14:47 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-04 09:46 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 11:54 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-04 15:01 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 15:32 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-05 09:53 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 13:56 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 09:43 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-03-05 10:31 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 23:34 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-04 15:49 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-03-02 16:22 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-02 16:45 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-03 08:02 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-02 14:07 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-02 14:17 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 14:30 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-02 15:03 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-02 23:07 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-03 08:27 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-03 04:36 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-03 05:21 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-03 14:29 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-03 05:50 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-04 18:16 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-05 05:55 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-04 23:36 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-05 15:17 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-05 09:21 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-05 18:27 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-05 09:59 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 08:50 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-03-03 08:56 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 15:44 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 09:10 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 09:44 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 10:14 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 10:47 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 13:59 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 14:38 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-04 09:32 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 11:32 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-04 14:15 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 22:27 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 14:46 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-05 09:34 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-05 09:40 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 17:56 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 13:53 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 09:14 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 10:09 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 18:40 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 09:17 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 18:40 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 01:53 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 13:28 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-04 09:18 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 11:07 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-04 13:32 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 14:02 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-05 09:08 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 13:42 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 09:01 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-06 09:19 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 22:27 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 20:06 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-04 23:30 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 11:02 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-05 13:29 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-05 23:23 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-03-05 23:26 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 01:53 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-01 13:07 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 21:45 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-01 13:54 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-01 14:05 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 14:31 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-02 14:01 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-02 10:06 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-03 14:07 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-03 05:39 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 09:42 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-04 11:44 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 14:32 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-06 07:09 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-06 07:14 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 15:55 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-06 08:52 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 18:40 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-06 09:29 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 18:40 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-06 20:19 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-06 20:37 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 06:50 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 06:37 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-07 11:08 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-07 05:14 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-07 15:13 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-07 07:25 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 07:46 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-07 17:31 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-07 17:12 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-08 21:26 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-08 12:34 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-09 04:17 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-09 04:52 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-09 11:24 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-09 11:21 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-09 10:31 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-09 02:59 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-09 14:47 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-09 15:49 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-09 18:36 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 09:53 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-08 02:28 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-08 21:41 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-09 00:22 +0000
Just more BULL SHIT eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-10 06:50 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-01 15:07 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-02 07:17 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-02 09:49 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-02 13:09 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-02 13:21 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-03 09:49 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-03 10:05 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-04 16:56 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-04 17:38 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-05 07:03 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-05 07:54 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-05 14:36 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-05 22:47 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-05 15:07 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-05 23:14 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-06 07:53 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-06 11:25 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 20:59 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-06 14:18 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-06 16:33 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 03:21 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 20:55 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-06 16:22 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 03:21 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-07 07:44 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 08:00 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 16:58 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 09:04 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-07 13:39 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 23:17 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-08 07:05 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 15:49 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 15:53 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-07 13:50 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 23:17 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 18:02 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-05 07:05 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-02 12:05 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-02 07:25 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 08:25 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-01 13:22 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 14:43 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-02-28 22:16 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-02-28 13:17 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-01 11:32 +1100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 08:12 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-02 09:04 +1100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-01 15:02 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-02 11:43 +1100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-02 09:12 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 18:45 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-02 22:31 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 09:39 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-03 11:30 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 14:20 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-03 20:48 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-04 10:42 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-04 11:05 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-04 13:22 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-04 16:29 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-06 10:40 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-06 11:12 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-06 17:47 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-06 22:35 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-04 11:43 +1100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-03-03 21:13 -0500
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-03 20:49 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-04 10:41 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-02 14:13 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-02 14:19 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-02 12:48 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 20:55 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-03 14:21 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-03 14:26 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 09:51 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-03 20:44 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-03 14:47 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-04 11:40 +1100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-04 10:31 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-05 08:28 +1100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-05 08:47 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-05 08:54 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-05 18:05 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-06 11:24 +1100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 13:08 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 22:07 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-07 13:11 +1100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-07 08:30 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 17:25 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-08 09:10 +1100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-07 14:25 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 23:17 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-07 21:11 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-08 06:26 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-07 23:12 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-07 17:17 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-08 09:06 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-08 11:21 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-08 13:49 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-08 15:38 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-09 10:56 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-08 15:07 +1100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-08 09:10 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-09 11:49 +1100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 23:01 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 19:48 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-03 20:12 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-03 20:14 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-04 12:21 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-04 12:27 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-04 12:30 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 13:03 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-05 08:08 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-05 08:14 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 13:22 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 08:34 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 09:53 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 14:05 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 22:13 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 15:43 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-07 07:42 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-07 16:46 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 08:02 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 07:58 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-07 09:10 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 09:22 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-07 17:35 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-07 17:40 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 17:25 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 17:14 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-06 15:43 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-07 08:01 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 17:14 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 16:10 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-07 08:18 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 08:26 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-07 09:34 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 09:50 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-07 10:15 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-07 12:09 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 12:11 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-07 14:08 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-07 23:18 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 14:47 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 23:17 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 16:29 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-08 08:25 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-08 17:32 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 18:36 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 23:01 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 15:30 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-08 09:02 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 12:05 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-03-07 19:09 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-07 08:31 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 17:14 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 17:25 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-07 01:42 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-06 20:49 -0600
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-07 08:51 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 17:25 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-04 11:26 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 15:27 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-04 13:16 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-11 08:43 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-11 06:54 -0700
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-11 07:14 -0700
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-05 17:11 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-04 13:08 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 21:21 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-04 23:33 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 15:18 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-05 09:23 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 17:56 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-05 10:01 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 18:09 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-05 10:34 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 18:45 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-05 11:11 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-05 21:20 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-05 22:55 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-06 09:38 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-06 11:06 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-05 14:15 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-03-06 09:26 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-05 12:35 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-03-05 23:17 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-05 14:28 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-01 21:28 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-03-01 09:45 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 18:29 -0600
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-04 09:58 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-04 10:23 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 15:18 -0600
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-05 08:33 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 11:05 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-05 14:04 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 14:41 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 12:49 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 22:07 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-06 16:29 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 03:21 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-07 07:33 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 16:58 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-07 13:31 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-03-07 13:41 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-06 20:06 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 15:58 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-05 14:00 -0600
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-05 21:25 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 08:40 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-06 12:30 -0600
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-06 19:06 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-06 19:10 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 14:22 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-06 20:43 -0600
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-07 08:41 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 08:55 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-07 09:50 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 12:00 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 17:25 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-07 16:55 -0600
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-08 08:32 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 08:41 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-08 09:24 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 12:11 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-03-08 23:04 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-08 21:32 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-08 21:31 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-09 06:33 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 22:33 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-09 10:41 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-08 23:02 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-09 12:27 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-09 04:36 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-09 15:00 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-09 08:41 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-09 18:35 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-09 10:44 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-09 19:30 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 18:36 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-09 11:17 -0600
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-09 09:32 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-10 09:59 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-10 23:44 -0600
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-08 17:06 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-05 21:29 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-08 17:09 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-03-05 23:07 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 14:42 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-08 17:12 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-05 17:19 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-06 18:47 +1100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-05 14:12 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-03-05 23:24 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-05 16:28 -0600
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 09:46 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 12:52 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-03-06 23:25 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-07 01:36 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 18:46 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 14:45 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 12:54 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 19:33 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-06 20:11 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 15:44 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 12:57 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-07 01:39 +0100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-06 20:08 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 17:24 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 14:14 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-06 13:14 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-03-06 12:53 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 23:16 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-07 17:48 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-07 17:58 +0000
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 13:01 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 16:53 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 22:39 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 22:57 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 23:55 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-08 00:17 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 09:25 -0800
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Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-08 10:49 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 11:08 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-03-08 19:39 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-08 15:16 +1100
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-07 20:42 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-03-07 13:13 -0800
Re: Proper Time, Clock Tick Rates and Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 10:47 +0000
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| From | kenseto <setoken@att.net> |
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| Date | 2018-03-06 08:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6f87a43b-cc69-4017-86b9-d9ed3f583909@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #451688 |
On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 10:55:39 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote: > kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 9:33:03 AM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote: > >> On 02/03/2018 13:01, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > >> > >>> A correct statement would be: > >> > >>> It is only when you COMPARE one frame to another that you will > >>> see that as observed in a frame where the egg is moving at 0.9c, > >>> it apparently took much much longer to get a "soft boil egg". > >>> > >>> Note that the 3 minutes time interval is measured > >>> with one clock, it is a proper time. > >>> But the "much longer time interval" must be measured > >>> with two different clocks, it is not a proper time. > >>> > >>> The three minutes time interval is the invariant space-time > >>> interval between the events start and end boiling. > >>> The "much longer time" is the projection of this > >>> interval in the frame where the egg is moving at 0.9c. > >> > >> > >> BUT SURELY MR. ANDERSEN, when i watch my friend returning at 0.9c, > >> IT DOES SEEM TO ME, watching through my telescope as he comes home, > >> That my friend's egg is perfectly cooked in much LESS THAN 3 minutes, > >> by my clock eh! > > > > Keith you are right....according to the rocket clock the egg is perfectly > > cooked (soft boiled) in 3/gamma minutes according to the rocket clock. > > Lol. Ken, you probably know this is testable on the space station, right. I > mean, the speed of the space station is not 0.9c, but there is definitely a > value of gamma that is greater than 1 for the space station. What is that > value? If it helps, low earth orbit means the space station orbits the > earth in about 90 minutes. Surely you can do this simple grade school > arithmetic. I agree that it is testable.....so do it. > > And Keith, your thinking about watching through a telescope is a common > error made by beginners. Have you heard what it is? > > > > >> > >> Keith Stein > >> p.s. Are you that very same Paul Andersen who used to contribute to > >> sci.physics in the good old days i.e. last century B.S.(Before Spam) > >> HOW TIME FLIES eh! > > > > > > -- > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-06 18:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p7mnbm$1gos$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #451693 |
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote: > On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 10:55:39 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote: >>> On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 9:33:03 AM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote: >>>> On 02/03/2018 13:01, Paul B. Andersen wrote: >>>> >>>>> A correct statement would be: >>>> >>>>> It is only when you COMPARE one frame to another that you will >>>>> see that as observed in a frame where the egg is moving at 0.9c, >>>>> it apparently took much much longer to get a "soft boil egg". >>>>> >>>>> Note that the 3 minutes time interval is measured >>>>> with one clock, it is a proper time. >>>>> But the "much longer time interval" must be measured >>>>> with two different clocks, it is not a proper time. >>>>> >>>>> The three minutes time interval is the invariant space-time >>>>> interval between the events start and end boiling. >>>>> The "much longer time" is the projection of this >>>>> interval in the frame where the egg is moving at 0.9c. >>>> >>>> >>>> BUT SURELY MR. ANDERSEN, when i watch my friend returning at 0.9c, >>>> IT DOES SEEM TO ME, watching through my telescope as he comes home, >>>> That my friend's egg is perfectly cooked in much LESS THAN 3 minutes, >>>> by my clock eh! >>> >>> Keith you are right....according to the rocket clock the egg is perfectly >>> cooked (soft boiled) in 3/gamma minutes according to the rocket clock. >> >> Lol. Ken, you probably know this is testable on the space station, right. I >> mean, the speed of the space station is not 0.9c, but there is definitely a >> value of gamma that is greater than 1 for the space station. What is that >> value? If it helps, low earth orbit means the space station orbits the >> earth in about 90 minutes. Surely you can do this simple grade school >> arithmetic. > > I agree that it is testable.....so do it. Sure. Calculate the number. > >> >> And Keith, your thinking about watching through a telescope is a common >> error made by beginners. Have you heard what it is? >> >>> >>>> >>>> Keith Stein >>>> p.s. Are you that very same Paul Andersen who used to contribute to >>>> sci.physics in the good old days i.e. last century B.S.(Before Spam) >>>> HOW TIME FLIES eh! >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | kenseto <setoken@att.net> |
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| Date | 2018-03-06 09:29 -0800 |
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On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 10:55:39 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote: > kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 9:33:03 AM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote: > >> On 02/03/2018 13:01, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > >> > >>> A correct statement would be: > >> > >>> It is only when you COMPARE one frame to another that you will > >>> see that as observed in a frame where the egg is moving at 0.9c, > >>> it apparently took much much longer to get a "soft boil egg". > >>> > >>> Note that the 3 minutes time interval is measured > >>> with one clock, it is a proper time. > >>> But the "much longer time interval" must be measured > >>> with two different clocks, it is not a proper time. > >>> > >>> The three minutes time interval is the invariant space-time > >>> interval between the events start and end boiling. > >>> The "much longer time" is the projection of this > >>> interval in the frame where the egg is moving at 0.9c. > >> > >> > >> BUT SURELY MR. ANDERSEN, when i watch my friend returning at 0.9c, > >> IT DOES SEEM TO ME, watching through my telescope as he comes home, > >> That my friend's egg is perfectly cooked in much LESS THAN 3 minutes, > >> by my clock eh! > > > > Keith you are right....according to the rocket clock the egg is perfectly > > cooked (soft boiled) in 3/gamma minutes according to the rocket clock. > > Lol. Ken, you probably know this is testable on the space station, right. I > mean, the speed of the space station is not 0.9c, but there is definitely a > value of gamma that is greater than 1 for the space station. What is that > value? If it helwhat you are thinkingps, low earth orbit means the space station orbits the > earth in about 90 minutes. Surely you can do this simple grade school > arithmetic. I see what you are thinking. We were taking about 0.9c excluding the effect of gravity. The ISS is in a lower state of gravitational field and its unmodified clock will accumulate clock seconds at a faster rate and thus the formula of 3/gamma minutes will not work. > > And Keith, your thinking about watching through a telescope is a common > error made by beginners. Have you heard what it is? > > > > >> > >> Keith Stein > >> p.s. Are you that very same Paul Andersen who used to contribute to > >> sci.physics in the good old days i.e. last century B.S.(Before Spam) > >> HOW TIME FLIES eh! > > > > > > -- > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote: > On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 10:55:39 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote: >>> On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 9:33:03 AM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote: >>>> On 02/03/2018 13:01, Paul B. Andersen wrote: >>>> >>>>> A correct statement would be: >>>> >>>>> It is only when you COMPARE one frame to another that you will >>>>> see that as observed in a frame where the egg is moving at 0.9c, >>>>> it apparently took much much longer to get a "soft boil egg". >>>>> >>>>> Note that the 3 minutes time interval is measured >>>>> with one clock, it is a proper time. >>>>> But the "much longer time interval" must be measured >>>>> with two different clocks, it is not a proper time. >>>>> >>>>> The three minutes time interval is the invariant space-time >>>>> interval between the events start and end boiling. >>>>> The "much longer time" is the projection of this >>>>> interval in the frame where the egg is moving at 0.9c. >>>> >>>> >>>> BUT SURELY MR. ANDERSEN, when i watch my friend returning at 0.9c, >>>> IT DOES SEEM TO ME, watching through my telescope as he comes home, >>>> That my friend's egg is perfectly cooked in much LESS THAN 3 minutes, >>>> by my clock eh! >>> >>> Keith you are right....according to the rocket clock the egg is perfectly >>> cooked (soft boiled) in 3/gamma minutes according to the rocket clock. >> >> Lol. Ken, you probably know this is testable on the space station, right. I >> mean, the speed of the space station is not 0.9c, but there is definitely a >> value of gamma that is greater than 1 for the space station. What is that >> value? If it helwhat you are thinkingps, low earth orbit means the space >> station orbits the >> earth in about 90 minutes. Surely you can do this >> simple grade school >> arithmetic. > > I see what you are thinking. We were taking about 0.9c excluding the > effect of gravity. The ISS is in a lower state of gravitational field and > its unmodified clock will accumulate clock seconds at a faster rate and > thus the formula of 3/gamma minutes will not work. Well let’s find out. Calculate the number to give astronauts something to test. They are not physicists. They need a number. > >> >> And Keith, your thinking about watching through a telescope is a common >> error made by beginners. Have you heard what it is? >> >>> >>>> >>>> Keith Stein >>>> p.s. Are you that very same Paul Andersen who used to contribute to >>>> sci.physics in the good old days i.e. last century B.S.(Before Spam) >>>> HOW TIME FLIES eh! >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> |
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| Date | 2018-03-06 20:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <QQBnC.162337$HD.104519@fx29.am4> |
| In reply to | #451683 |
Den 06.03.2018 15.32, skrev Keith Stein:
> On 02/03/2018 13:01, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>
>> A correct statement would be:
>
>> It is only when you COMPARE one frame to another that you will
>> see that as observed in a frame where the egg is moving at 0.9c,
>> it apparently took much much longer to get a "soft boil egg".
>>
>> Note that the 3 minutes time interval is measured
>> with one clock, it is a proper time.
>> But the "much longer time interval" must be measured
>> with two different clocks, it is not a proper time.
>>
>> The three minutes time interval is the invariant space-time
>> interval between the events start and end boiling.
>> The "much longer time" is the projection of this
>> interval in the frame where the egg is moving at 0.9c.
>
>
> BUT SURELY MR. ANDERSEN, when i watch my friend returning at 0.9c,
> IT DOES SEEM TO ME, watching through my telescope as he comes home,
> That my friend's egg is perfectly cooked in much LESS THAN 3 minutes,
> by my clock eh!
Yes, obviously.
https://paulba.no/pdf/TwinsByMetric.pdf
>
> Keith Stein
> p.s. Are you that very same Paul Andersen who used to contribute to
> sci.physics in the good old days i.e. last century B.S.(Before Spam)
> HOW TIME FLIES eh!
Yes, I am the very same Paul B. Andersen.
And you are the very same Keith Stein who back in 2002 wrote:
"ANY DISCREPANCY BETWEEN PREVIOUSLY SYNCRONISED CLOCKS,
WHICH CAN BE FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR BY THE FINITE VELOCITY OF
THE SIGNAL CONNECTING THE CLOCKS, MUST DISAPPEAR WHENEVER
THE CLOCKS ARE BROUGHT TO ANY COMMON LOCATION"
Are you still ignoring all the experimental evidence
that prove this claim wrong?
BTW, welcome back. :-)
--
Paul
https://paulba.no/
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| From | "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> |
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| Date | 2018-03-06 20:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <I5CnC.106200$By.97398@fx01.am4> |
| In reply to | #451718 |
Den 06.03.2018 20.19, skrev Paul B. Andersen:
> Den 06.03.2018 15.32, skrev Keith Stein:
>>
>> p.s. Are you that very same Paul Andersen who used to contribute to
>> sci.physics in the good old days i.e. last century B.S.(Before Spam)
>> HOW TIME FLIES eh!
>
> Yes, I am the very same Paul B. Andersen.
>
> And you are the very same Keith Stein who back in 2002 wrote:
>
> "ANY DISCREPANCY BETWEEN PREVIOUSLY SYNCRONISED CLOCKS,
> WHICH CAN BE FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR BY THE FINITE VELOCITY OF
> THE SIGNAL CONNECTING THE CLOCKS, MUST DISAPPEAR WHENEVER
> THE CLOCKS ARE BROUGHT TO ANY COMMON LOCATION"
>
When I read your statement again, it isn't necessarily wrong,
it can be interpreted as a truism.
Do you mean:
"ANY DISCREPANCY BETWEEN PREVIOUSLY SYNCHRONISED CLOCKS
MUST DISAPPEAR WHENEVER THE CLOCKS ARE BROUGHT TO ANY
COMMON LOCATION"
This is what you claimed back in 2002.
--
Paul
https://paulba.no/
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| From | Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-07 06:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <_YLnC.160259$1r3.89539@fx32.am4> |
| In reply to | #451720 |
On 06/03/2018 19:37, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > Den 06.03.2018 20.19, skrev Paul B. Andersen: >> Den 06.03.2018 15.32, skrev Keith Stein: >>> >>> p.s. Are you that very same Paul Andersen who used to contribute to >>> sci.physics in the good old days i.e. last century B.S.(Before Spam) >>> HOW TIME FLIES eh! >> >> Yes, I am the very same Paul B. Andersen. >> >> And you are the very same Keith Stein who back in 2002 wrote: >> >> "ANY DISCREPANCY BETWEEN PREVIOUSLY SYNCRONISED CLOCKS, >> WHICH CAN BE FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR BY THE FINITE VELOCITY OF >> THE SIGNAL CONNECTING THE CLOCKS, MUST DISAPPEAR WHENEVER >> THE CLOCKS ARE BROUGHT TO ANY COMMON LOCATION" >> > > When I read your statement again, it isn't necessarily wrong, Well i am so very pleased to hear that Mr. Andersen :) > it can be interpreted as a truism. Indeed it did seem to me to be OBVIOUSLY TRUE in 2002 eh! > Do you mean: > "ANY DISCREPANCY BETWEEN PREVIOUSLY SYNCHRONISED CLOCKS > MUST DISAPPEAR WHENEVER THE CLOCKS ARE BROUGHT TO ANY > COMMON LOCATION" > Yes that is exactly what i meant.................... (assuming the clocks are identical, and no one has adjusted just one of the clocks) > This is what you claimed back in 2002. >
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| From | Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-07 06:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <yMLnC.169063$wa1.56285@fx22.am4> |
| In reply to | #451718 |
On 06/03/2018 19:19, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > Den 06.03.2018 15.32, skrev Keith Stein: >> On 02/03/2018 13:01, Paul B. Andersen wrote: >> >>> A correct statement would be: >> >>> It is only when you COMPARE one frame to another that you will >>> see that as observed in a frame where the egg is moving at 0.9c, >>> it apparently took much much longer to get a "soft boil egg". >>> >>> Note that the 3 minutes time interval is measured >>> with one clock, it is a proper time. >>> But the "much longer time interval" must be measured >>> with two different clocks, it is not a proper time. So the *LONGER* TIME INTERVAL is measured by the Earth bound observer, as the space man boils his egg ON THE *OUTWARD* TRIP . >>> The three minutes time interval is the invariant space-time >>> interval between the events start and end boiling. >>> The "much longer time" is the projection of this >>> interval in Sframe where the egg is moving at 0.9c. >> >> >> BUT SURELY MR. ANDERSEN, when i watch my friend returning at 0.9c, >> IT DOES SEEM TO ME, watching through my telescope as he comes home, >> That my friend's egg is perfectly cooked in much LESS THAN 3 minutes, >> by my clock eh! And a *SHORTER* TIME INTERVAL is measure by the Earth bound observer, as the space man boils his egg ON THE *RETURN* TRIP. > Yes, obviously. > > https://paulba.no/pdf/TwinsByMetric.pdf Thank you for that, Paul. Although, to be honest, it was rather more *obvious* to me, before studying the "Twins" reference you so kindly provided. >> Keith Stein >> p.s. Are you that very same Paul Andersen who used to contribute to >> sci.physics in the good old days i.e. last century B.S.(Before Spam) >> HOW TIME FLIES eh! > > Yes, I am the very same Paul B. Andersen. > > And you are the very same Keith Stein who back in 2002 wrote: > > "ANY DISCREPANCY BETWEEN PREVIOUSLY SYNCRONISED CLOCKS, > WHICH CAN BE FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR BY THE FINITE VELOCITY OF > THE SIGNAL CONNECTING THE CLOCKS, MUST DISAPPEAR WHENEVER > THE CLOCKS ARE BROUGHT TO ANY COMMON LOCATION" > > Are you still ignoring all the experimental evidence > that prove this claim wrong? > What "experimental evidence" would that be Mr.Andersen ? Anyone measured the time dilation on the International Space Station, that i was asking for back in 2002? I doubt it eh! , but if they can show the predicted +26 micro seconds/day on the ISS, then i will withdraw all the rude things i've said about the SR TWINS NONSENSE eh! > BTW, welcome back. :-) Thank you very much Paul (you the ONLY ONE who said that eh!) keith stein
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| From | "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> |
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| Date | 2018-03-07 11:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ASOnC.250993$g34.88254@fx20.am4> |
| In reply to | #451790 |
Den 07.03.2018 07.37, skrev Keith Stein: > On 06/03/2018 19:19, Paul B. Andersen wrote: >> Den 06.03.2018 15.32, skrev Keith Stein: >>> >>> p.s. Are you that very same Paul Andersen who used to contribute to >>> sci.physics in the good old days i.e. last century B.S.(Before Spam) >>> HOW TIME FLIES eh! >> >> Yes, I am the very same Paul B. Andersen. >> >> And you are the very same Keith Stein who back in 2002 wrote: >> >> "ANY DISCREPANCY BETWEEN PREVIOUSLY SYNCRONISED CLOCKS, >> WHICH CAN BE FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR BY THE FINITE VELOCITY OF >> THE SIGNAL CONNECTING THE CLOCKS, MUST DISAPPEAR WHENEVER >> THE CLOCKS ARE BROUGHT TO ANY COMMON LOCATION" >> >> Are you still ignoring all the experimental evidence >> that prove this claim wrong? >> > What "experimental evidence" would that be Mr.Andersen ? https://paulba.no/paper/Ives_Stilwell.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/Ives_Stilwell_II.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/Pound&Rebka.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/Babcock_Bergman.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/Frisch_Smith.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/Alvager_et_al.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/Beckmann_Mandics.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/Filippas_Fox.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/Hafele.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/Hafele_Keating.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/Alley.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/Brecher.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/Initial_results_of_GPS_satellite_1977.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/Vessot.pdf > Anyone measured the time dilation on the International Space Station, > that i was asking for back in 2002? I doubt it eh! , but if they can > show the predicted +26 micro seconds/day on the ISS, then i will > withdraw all the rude things i've said about the SR TWINS NONSENSE eh! Nothing I can say will make you read the experimental evidence that confirms SR and GR. So believe what you want, I am not going to try to change your mind. > >> BTW, welcome back. :-) > > Thank you very much Paul (you the ONLY ONE who said that eh!) > > > keith stein > A more precise prediction for the clock in the ISS is that it will loose 24.7 us per day. https://paulba.no/Satellites.html Scenario: ISS(green)+zero time diff. orbit(red) -- Paul https://paulba.no/
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2018-03-07 05:14 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9b7e8e32-d19c-4b1c-921c-51bb8069fdc3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #451794 |
On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 11:08:35 UTC+1, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > Nothing I can say will make you read the experimental > evidence that confirms SR and GR. "confirms" in the meaning of brainwashed fanatic moron. A waste of time.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-03-07 15:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5344014.R4nXjHgquN@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #451794 |
Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> A more precise prediction for the clock in the ISS is
> that it will loose 24.7 us per day.
(_lose_)
Based on which data, equations, and methods of calculation?
ISTM that you have neglected gravitational time dilation. I do not see
evidence that that will already compensated for in ACES/PHARAO (scheduled
launch in mid-2018) as with GPS satellites’ atomic clocks.
Using
∆T = ∆T_grav + ∆T_rel
= ((1∕√(1 − 2 g r∕c²) − 1) T₀ + ((1∕γ − 1) T₀)
= ((1∕√(1 − 2 g r∕c²) − 1) + (√(1 − v²∕c²) − 1)) T₀,
and
g = 9.81 m∕s² surface gravitational acceleration of Terra
r_E ≈ 6378 km nominal equatorial radius of Terra
h = 412.8 km ISS average orbital height
r = r_E + h
c = 299'792.458 km∕s speed of light in vacuum
v = 7.666 km∕s ISS average orbital speed
T₀ = 86'400 s standard day
with methods of different precision, I always calculate a _gain_ of ca.
+35 µs∕d to ca. +92 µs∕d instead.
Only for the second summand ∆T_rel, time dilation due to relative motion,
I get −0.00002824749697822081 s with “bc -l”, which is close to your
−24.7 µs.
> https://paulba.no/Satellites.html
> Scenario: ISS(green)+zero time diff. orbit(red)
Java applets are out of date. Use scripted SVG instead.
PointedEars
--
Q: What did the female magnet say to the male magnet?
A: From the back, I found you repulsive, but from the front
I find myself very attracted to you.
(from: WolframAlpha)
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2018-03-07 07:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <0babe0aa-0e06-4e0d-becc-806e5e333917@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #451798 |
On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:13:06 UTC+1, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > ISTM that you have neglected gravitational time dilation. I do not see > evidence that that will already compensated for in ACES/PHARAO (scheduled > launch in mid-2018) as with GPS satellites’ atomic clocks. A lie, as expected from fanatic trash. GPS clocks show it very clearly - t't, against mad prophecies of your idiot guru.
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| From | Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-07 07:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <497cc3b5-f837-48fe-b6e0-69f59e6ce74d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #451798 |
On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 8:13:06 AM UTC-6, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > ISTM that you have neglected gravitational time dilation. I do not see > evidence that that will already compensated for in ACES/PHARAO (scheduled > launch in mid-2018) as with GPS satellites’ atomic clocks. Why should it be compensated for? ACES/PHARO has, among its various goals, the mission to *test* theories of gravitation. It is not required to match Earth clocks.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-03-07 17:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1797938.UeKxlY5SXa@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #451803 |
Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It is considered polite here to post using one’s real name (nicknames may be *inserted*). > On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 8:13:06 AM UTC-6, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn > wrote: Attribution _line_, not attribution novel. >> ISTM that you have neglected gravitational time dilation. I do not see >> evidence that that will already compensated for in ACES/PHARAO (scheduled >> launch in mid-2018) as with GPS satellites’ atomic clocks. > > Why should it be compensated for? ACES/PHARO has, among its various goals, > the mission to *test* theories of gravitation. It is not required to match > Earth clocks. Yes, that is precisely what I meant. PointedEars -- Heisenberg is out for a drive when he's stopped by a traffic cop. The officer asks him "Do you know how fast you were going?" Heisenberg replies "No, but I know where I am." (from: WolframAlpha)
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| From | Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> |
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| Date | 2018-03-07 17:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p7p6ib$1gmu$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #451798 |
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> https://paulba.no/Satellites.html Scenario: ISS(green)+zero time diff. >> orbit(red) > > Java applets are out of date. Use scripted SVG instead. must be something you dont know as well.
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| From | "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> |
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| Date | 2018-03-08 21:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <%%goC.756805$F74.701265@fx47.am4> |
| In reply to | #451798 |
Den 07.03.2018 15.13, skrev Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn: > Paul B. Andersen wrote: > >> A more precise prediction for the clock in the ISS is >> that it will loose 24.7 us per day. > > (_lose_) > > Based on which data, equations, and methods of calculation? https://paulba.no/pdf/ISS_clock_rate.pdf The clock will lose 24.62 us a day. > > ISTM that you have neglected gravitational time dilation. Of course I haven't neglected gravitation. If the altitude of a circular orbit is 3181 km, the orbiting clock will run at the same rate as the ground clock. A clock in lower orbit will run slow (lose time), a clock in higher orbit will run fast (gain time). > I do not see > evidence that that will already compensated for in ACES/PHARAO (scheduled > launch in mid-2018) as with GPS satellites’ atomic clocks. Why should that be compensated for? I don't think the ACES clocks are supposed to stay in sync with GPS time. > > Using > > ∆T = ∆T_grav + ∆T_rel > = ((1∕√(1 − 2 g r∕c²) − 1) T₀ + ((1∕γ − 1) T₀) > = ((1∕√(1 − 2 g r∕c²) − 1) + (√(1 − v²∕c²) − 1)) T₀, > > and > > g = 9.81 m∕s² surface gravitational acceleration of Terra > r_E ≈ 6378 km nominal equatorial radius of Terra > h = 412.8 km ISS average orbital height > r = r_E + h > c = 299'792.458 km∕s speed of light in vacuum > v = 7.666 km∕s ISS average orbital speed > T₀ = 86'400 s standard day > > with methods of different precision, I always calculate a _gain_ of ca. > +35 µs∕d to ca. +92 µs∕d instead. > > Only for the second summand ∆T_rel, time dilation due to relative motion, > I get −0.00002824749697822081 s with “bc -l”, which is close to your > −24.7 µs. That is quite correct, time dilation due to speed is -28.14 us per day. The time dilation due to gravitation is +3.52 us per day. The sum is -24.62 per day. The time dilation due to gravitation is so small because the orbit is so low. > >> https://paulba.no/Satellites.html >> Scenario: ISS(green)+zero time diff. orbit(red) This give a slightly higher time dilation than the calculation above, possibly because I have used a slightly lower altitude (401 km). > > Java applets are out of date. Use scripted SVG instead. Download the Java application. It's quite safe. > > > PointedEars > -- Paul https://paulba.no/
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2018-03-08 12:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b76cc96d-da41-441c-8546-1e969d582d89@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #452002 |
On Thursday, 8 March 2018 21:26:37 UTC+1, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > Den 07.03.2018 15.13, skrev Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn: > > Paul B. Andersen wrote: > > > >> A more precise prediction for the clock in the ISS is > >> that it will loose 24.7 us per day. > > > > (_lose_) > > > > Based on which data, equations, and methods of calculation? > > https://paulba.no/pdf/ISS_clock_rate.pdf > > The clock will lose 24.62 us a day. In the imagination of a brainwashed halfbrain. We have GPS, so we know.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-03-09 04:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <4746136.gOvG515RFC@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #452002 |
Paul B. Andersen wrote: > Den 07.03.2018 15.13, skrev Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn: >> Paul B. Andersen wrote: >>> A more precise prediction for the clock in the ISS is >>> that it will loose 24.7 us per day. >> >> (_lose_) >> >> Based on which data, equations, and methods of calculation? > > https://paulba.no/pdf/ISS_clock_rate.pdf > > The clock will lose 24.62 us a day. If, and only if, the ISS orbital altitude would be *thousands* of kilometres. It is NOT. Never has been. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Space_Station> <http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=ISS> >> ISTM that you have neglected gravitational time dilation. > > Of course I haven't neglected gravitation. Apparently true; your input data is just wrong. > If the altitude of a circular orbit is 3181 km, But in the case of the ISS it is NOT. How on Earth did you get that idea? If the station would be *thousands* of kilometres away, instead of only *hundreds*, it would not be possible to reach it in only about 6 hours in a Soyuz, and return from there to the ground in about 3. <https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/three-new-crew-members-arrive-at-international-space-station> <https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/international-space-station-crew-landing-to-air-live-on-nasa-television> >> I do not see evidence that that will already compensated for in >> ACES/PHARAO (scheduled launch in mid-2018) as with GPS satellites’ atomic >> clocks. > > Why should that be compensated for? It should not. That is precisely what I meant. (Is this a language problem on my part, or a reading problem on that of both of you?) > I don't think the ACES clocks are supposed to stay in sync > with GPS time. Therefore, they will *gain* time compared to the ground clocks, NOT lose time. >> […] >> with methods of different precision, I always calculate a _gain_ of ca. >> +35 µs∕d to ca. +92 µs∕d instead. >> >> Only for the second summand ∆T_rel, time dilation due to relative motion, >> I get −0.00002824749697822081 s with “bc -l”, which is close to your >> −24.7 µs. > > That is quite correct, time dilation due to speed is -28.14 us per day. It is more (less in absolute value). > The time dilation due to gravitation is +3.52 us per day. No, it is NOT – or something is very wrong *both* at Wolfram|Alpha *and* in my computer: <http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?dataset=&i=gravitational+time+dilation&rawformassumption=%7B%22FS%22%7D+-%3E+%7B%7B%22TimeDilationGravitational%22, +%22t%22%7D%7D&rawformassumption=%7B%22F%22, +%22TimeDilationGravitational%22, +%22to%22%7D+-%3E%2286400+s%22&rawformassumption=%7B%22F%22, +%22TimeDilationGravitational%22, +%22r%22%7D+-%3E%22r_earth+%2B+411.2+km%22&rawformassumption=%7B%22F%22, +%22TimeDilationGravitational%22,+%22M%22%7D+-%3E%221+M_earth%22> > The sum is -24.62 per day. /Ex falso quodlibet./ > The time dilation due to gravitation is so small because > the orbit is so low. For the ISS (at ca. 411 km altitude), the gravitational time dilation is about 10 times greater than the time dilation due to relative motion because it is in a *low* Earth orbit (LEO; apogee *< 2000 km*) *and* the average orbital speed is comparably low. <http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?dataset=&i=time+dilation&rawformassumption=%7B%22FS%22%7D+-%3E+%7B%7B%22TimeDilationRelativistic%22, +%22to%22%7D%7D&rawformassumption=%22FSelect%22+-%3E+%7B%7B%22TimeDilationRelativistic%22%7D%7D&rawformassumption=%7B%22F%22, +%22TimeDilationRelativistic%22, +%22t%22%7D+-%3E%2286400+s%22&rawformassumption=%7B%22F%22, +%22TimeDilationRelativistic%22,+%22v%22%7D+-%3E%223.666+km%2Fs%22> >>> https://paulba.no/Satellites.html >>> Scenario: ISS(green)+zero time diff. orbit(red) > > This give a slightly higher time dilation than > the calculation above, possibly because I have > used a slightly lower altitude (401 km). 401 km differs from your 3181 km by one order of magnitude. That is NOT “slightly less”. Also 56 µs is not “slightly higher” than 3 µs. Finally, 401.1 km is only the smallest ISS perigee so far. AISB, the current orbital altitude (at the time of writing) of the station is 410 km, and the average orbital altitude, which should be used for this calculation, is 411.6 km (see the Wolfram|Alpha reference above). >> Java applets are out of date. Use scripted SVG instead. > > Download the Java application. It's quite safe. I try to avoid running closed-source software on my computer. But you are missing the point here. PointedEars -- Q: What did the nuclear physicist order for lunch? A: Fission chips. (from: WolframAlpha)
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-03-09 04:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2473637.IOt05zKpSF@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #452035 |
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Paul B. Andersen wrote: >> Den 07.03.2018 15.13, skrev Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn: >>> I do not see evidence that that will already compensated for in >>> ACES/PHARAO (scheduled launch in mid-2018) as with GPS satellites’ >>> atomic clocks. >> Why should that be compensated for? > > It should not. That is precisely what I meant. (Is this a language > problem on my part, or a reading problem on that of both of you?) In part it is a problem with my use of language because editing removed the word “be” to form the passive mood. I wanted to post “I do not see evidence that that [sic – meaning gravitational time dilation; the ed.] will already _be_ compensated for in ACES/PHARAO (scheduled launch in mid-2018) as [it was/is] with GPS satellites’ atomic clocks.” PointedEars -- Q: What did the nuclear physicist post on the laboratory door when he went camping? A: 'Gone fission'. (from: WolframAlpha)
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| From | "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> |
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| Date | 2018-03-09 11:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <UhtoC.820302$F74.245828@fx47.am4> |
| In reply to | #452037 |
Den 09.03.2018 04.52, skrev Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn: > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > >> Paul B. Andersen wrote: >>> Den 07.03.2018 15.13, skrev Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn: >>>> I do not see evidence that that will already compensated for in >>>> ACES/PHARAO (scheduled launch in mid-2018) as with GPS satellites’ >>>> atomic clocks. >>> Why should that be compensated for? >> >> It should not. That is precisely what I meant. (Is this a language >> problem on my part, or a reading problem on that of both of you?) > > In part it is a problem with my use of language because editing removed the > word “be” to form the passive mood. I wanted to post > > “I do not see evidence that that [sic – meaning gravitational time dilation; > the ed.] will already _be_ compensated for in ACES/PHARAO (scheduled launch > in mid-2018) as [it was/is] with GPS satellites’ atomic clocks.” > > > PointedEars > OK. -- Paul https://paulba.no/
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