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This is your guru

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  This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 00:09 -0800
    Re: This is your guru Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-16 10:52 +0100
      Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 02:41 -0800
        Re: This is your guru Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-16 11:43 +0100
          Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 03:49 -0800
            Re: This is your guru Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-16 13:18 +0100
              Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 04:48 -0800
                Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 21:54 -0800
                  Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 23:19 -0800
                    Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 23:32 -0800
                      Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 23:38 -0800
                        Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 00:14 -0800
                          Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-17 00:38 -0800
                            Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 10:37 -0800
                              Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-17 22:36 -0800
      Re: This is your guru Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-16 10:26 -0600
        Re: This is your guru Kieth Staudt <KiethS@StaudtInstitute.info> - 2016-11-16 18:12 +0000
        Re: This is your guru Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-16 19:28 +0100
        Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 21:57 -0800
          Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 23:34 -0800
            Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 00:23 -0800
              Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-17 03:37 -0800
                Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 10:39 -0800
                  Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-17 22:50 -0800
                    Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 23:52 -0800
                      Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-18 00:53 -0800
                        Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 12:28 -0800
                          Re: This is your guru Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-11-19 10:07 +0100
                            Re: This is your guru Marion Vanriper <Marion@Vanriper.info> - 2016-11-26 09:30 +0000
          Re: This is your guru Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-17 10:09 -0600
    Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 12:11 -0800
      Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 23:14 -0800
        Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 23:35 -0800
          Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 23:52 -0800
            Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 00:25 -0800
              Re: This is your guru paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 03:59 -0800
                Re: This is your guru "Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com> - 2016-11-17 12:12 +0000
                  Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-18 05:07 +0100
                    Re: This is your guru "Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com> - 2016-11-18 10:02 +0000
                      Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-18 22:13 +0100
                      Re: This is your guru "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-18 21:46 -0800
                      Re: This is your guru "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-11-19 09:30 +0100
                  Re: This is your guru Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-19 10:01 -0600
                    Re: This is your guru "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-19 08:07 -0800
                    Re: This is your guru Norberto Haman <norberman@norberman.info> - 2016-11-19 16:37 +0000
                      Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-20 09:37 -0800
                        Re: This is your guru Norberto Haman <norberman@norberman.info> - 2016-11-20 20:32 +0000
                          Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-20 15:54 -0800
                            Re: This is your guru Maryann Tonn <libradaz@libradazert.info> - 2016-11-21 15:00 +0000
                              Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-21 19:16 -0800
                                Re: This is your guru Maryann Tonn <libradaz@libradazert.info> - 2016-11-22 10:39 +0000
                                  Re: This is your guru paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 03:16 -0800
                                    Re: This is your guru Maryann Tonn <libradaz@libradazert.info> - 2016-11-22 11:24 +0000
                                      Re: This is your guru Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-22 12:13 +0000
                                  Re: This is your guru benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-22 17:37 -0500
                                  Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-22 22:57 -0800
                                    Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 13:37 +0000
                                      Re: This is your guru paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 06:04 -0800
                                        Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 14:27 +0000
                                          Re: This is your guru paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 06:44 -0800
                                            Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 14:56 +0000
                                      Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-23 10:46 -0800
                                        Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-23 23:21 +0100
                                          Re: This is your guru Bob Goodman <bobg@boobgodman.info> - 2016-11-23 22:58 +0000
                                            Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-25 20:00 +0100
                                              Re: This is your guru Bernardo Dearmond <bnard@dearmond.org> - 2016-11-25 21:46 +0000
                                                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-25 22:56 +0100
                                        Re: This is your guru "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-23 20:13 -0800
                                    Re: This is your guru Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 09:24 -0600
                                      Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 15:33 +0000
                                      Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-23 23:23 +0100
                                        Re: This is your guru "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-23 20:15 -0800
                                          Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-25 20:05 +0100
                                            Re: This is your guru "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-25 14:57 -0800
                                    Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 18:28 +0000
                                      Re: This is your guru Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 19:37 +0100
                                        Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 18:39 +0000
                              Re: This is your guru "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-21 22:40 -0800
                    Re: This is your guru Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-19 10:47 -0600
                      Re: This is your guru Norberto Haman <norberman@norberman.info> - 2016-11-19 17:20 +0000
                Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-17 04:37 -0800

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#398669

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-17 00:23 -0800
Message-ID<1ccd7dc1-bded-48cc-9525-d29c8af6a1de@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398661
On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:34:36 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 06:57:49 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 8:26:50 AM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
> > > 
> > > If, on the other hand, ds^2 is the line element, then there is no nomenclature 
> > > convention, no bold text, no tensor-product symbols, and ds, dx, and dy are all 
> > > ordinary differentials along some (unspecified) path of integration.
> > 
> > Yes.
> > 
> > > In only the second case is ds^2 the square of some quantity.
> > 
> > Yes.
> 
> So, now, poor idiot - take a look at your 
> problem. No bold text, right? no tensor-product 
> symbols, right? Too bad. 

That's because nobody ever writes tensor product signs for symmetric products. Knowing this
sort of thing is a prerequisite to even understand the question. OK, here is a quick tutorial on 
tensor product signs:

1. tensor product - "x" in a circle,
2. symmetric tensor product - nothing (99% of the time) (*)
3. antisymmetric tensor product - a "wedge", i.e. "/\".

(*) when there is a potential for confusion (extremely rare in typical situations) then symmetric
product is sometimes denoted either by a dot "." in a circle or by an inverted wedge "\/".

> Stop pretending. Even your fellow idiot knows,
> what ds is and what ds^2 is.

Leave fellow idiots out of it. Your challenge is to answer, not to comment on irrelevancies.

--
Jan

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#398677

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-11-17 03:37 -0800
Message-ID<e3e56dbd-0db5-44f7-b564-7841c76f14e4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398669
W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 09:23:14 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:34:36 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 06:57:49 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 8:26:50 AM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > If, on the other hand, ds^2 is the line element, then there is no nomenclature 
> > > > convention, no bold text, no tensor-product symbols, and ds, dx, and dy are all 
> > > > ordinary differentials along some (unspecified) path of integration.
> > > 
> > > Yes.
> > > 
> > > > In only the second case is ds^2 the square of some quantity.
> > > 
> > > Yes.
> > 
> > So, now, poor idiot - take a look at your 
> > problem. No bold text, right? no tensor-product 
> > symbols, right? Too bad. 
> 
> That's because nobody ever writes 

Jan, poor idiot, take a look above. Tom wrote:
when no bold ds^2 it means (ordinary differential)^2.
You wrote "yes".
Stop waving arms, stop your desperate tries to
change the subject, just tell me: your ds^2 - was 
it bold or not?

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#398708

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-17 10:39 -0800
Message-ID<c80ba303-19ba-4fa9-bbe9-48ae7b79e861@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398677
On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 3:38:00 AM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 09:23:14 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:34:36 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 06:57:49 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 8:26:50 AM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > If, on the other hand, ds^2 is the line element, then there is no nomenclature 
> > > > > convention, no bold text, no tensor-product symbols, and ds, dx, and dy are all 
> > > > > ordinary differentials along some (unspecified) path of integration.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes.
> > > > 
> > > > > In only the second case is ds^2 the square of some quantity.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes.
> > > 
> > > So, now, poor idiot - take a look at your 
> > > problem. No bold text, right? no tensor-product 
> > > symbols, right? Too bad. 
> > 
> > That's because nobody ever writes 
> 
> Jan, poor idiot, take a look above. Tom wrote:
> when no bold ds^2 it means (ordinary differential)^2.
> You wrote "yes".
> Stop waving arms, stop your desperate tries to
> change the subject, just tell me: your ds^2 - was 
> it bold or not?

Not even worth responding to. There is nothing left to discuss on this thread.

--
Jan

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#398762

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-11-17 22:50 -0800
Message-ID<986e9a1c-edc4-435b-86df-79daf5facae4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398708
W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 19:39:42 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 3:38:00 AM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 09:23:14 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:34:36 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > > W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 06:57:49 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > > > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 8:26:50 AM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If, on the other hand, ds^2 is the line element, then there is no nomenclature 
> > > > > > convention, no bold text, no tensor-product symbols, and ds, dx, and dy are all 
> > > > > > ordinary differentials along some (unspecified) path of integration.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > In only the second case is ds^2 the square of some quantity.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes.
> > > > 
> > > > So, now, poor idiot - take a look at your 
> > > > problem. No bold text, right? no tensor-product 
> > > > symbols, right? Too bad. 
> > > 
> > > That's because nobody ever writes 
> > 
> > Jan, poor idiot, take a look above. Tom wrote:
> > when no bold ds^2 it means (ordinary differential)^2.
> > You wrote "yes".
> > Stop waving arms, stop your desperate tries to
> > change the subject, just tell me: your ds^2 - was 
> > it bold or not?
> 
> Not even worth responding to.

Of course.
This is your guru. He screams, he waves arms,
but he doesn't even know what ds^2 is square of.
Poor, puffed, mumbling halfbrain.

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#398764

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-17 23:52 -0800
Message-ID<931686a2-a645-48f6-a9b0-981e7387e606@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398762
On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 10:50:18 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 19:39:42 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 3:38:00 AM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 09:23:14 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:34:36 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > > > W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 06:57:49 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 8:26:50 AM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If, on the other hand, ds^2 is the line element, then there is no nomenclature 
> > > > > > > convention, no bold text, no tensor-product symbols, and ds, dx, and dy are all 
> > > > > > > ordinary differentials along some (unspecified) path of integration.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In only the second case is ds^2 the square of some quantity.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So, now, poor idiot - take a look at your 
> > > > > problem. No bold text, right? no tensor-product 
> > > > > symbols, right? Too bad. 
> > > > 
> > > > That's because nobody ever writes 
> > > 
> > > Jan, poor idiot, take a look above. Tom wrote:
> > > when no bold ds^2 it means (ordinary differential)^2.
> > > You wrote "yes".
> > > Stop waving arms, stop your desperate tries to
> > > change the subject, just tell me: your ds^2 - was 
> > > it bold or not?
> > 
> > Not even worth responding to.
> 
> Of course.
> This is your guru. He screams, he waves arms,
> but he doesn't even know what ds^2 is square of.
> Poor, puffed, mumbling halfbrain.

You haven't answered a simple question meant to test your credibility. You've failed that test.
(You have also made the false claim that the metric tensor was a square. It isn't. Get over it.)

End of conversation.

And now you are doing what you do every time someone corners you: attacks, lies,
and non-sequiturs. And good luck finding that square root of metric tensor.

--
Jan

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#398769

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-11-18 00:53 -0800
Message-ID<c3f6e7d0-c36a-4fba-a645-9154503f11d7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398764
W dniu piątek, 18 listopada 2016 08:52:20 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:

> You haven't answered a simple question meant to test your credibility. You've failed that test.

You're too stupid to write a question testing anything.
Besides, you have answered incorrectly a simple question meant to test your credibility. You've failed that test. 


> (You have also made the false claim that the metric tensor was a square. It isn't. Get over it.)

A lie. Never said anything similiar.
It's just your moronic belief that ds^2 is denoting a tensor.
It isn't. Get over it.

And now you are doing what you do every time someone corners you: attacks, lies,
and non-sequiturs. 

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#398819

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-18 12:28 -0800
Message-ID<d539dd11-52c7-4040-9717-d9f7f72d625d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398769
On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 12:53:22 AM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu piątek, 18 listopada 2016 08:52:20 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> 
> > You haven't answered a simple question meant to test your credibility. You've failed that test.
> 
> You're too stupid to write a question testing anything.

Sorry but that's irrelevant. Point is you couldn't answer it.

> Besides, you have answered incorrectly a simple question meant to test your credibility. You've failed that test. 

And this you've just made up.

> > (You have also made the false claim that the metric tensor was a square. It isn't. Get over it.)
> 
> A lie. Never said anything similiar.

You did. And now you're retreating. Whatever. Someone has already marked this
thread as spam and I don't blame them.

--
Jan

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#398899

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2016-11-19 10:07 +0100
Message-ID<o0p4q3$s12$1@node1.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#398819

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:d539dd11-52c7-4040-9717-d9f7f72d625d@googlegroups.com...

On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 12:53:22 AM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu piątek, 18 listopada 2016 08:52:20 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
>
> > You haven't answered a simple question meant to test your credibility. 
> > You've failed that test.
>
> You're too stupid to write a question testing anything.

|Sorry but that's irrelevant. Point is you couldn't answer it.

No. Point is it was not  any test, just some mumble of a moron you are.

> Besides, you have answered incorrectly a simple question meant to test 
> your credibility. You've failed that test.

|And this you've just made up.

A lie. Do you want a quoting?


> > (You have also made the false claim that the metric tensor was a square. 
> > It isn't. Get over it.)
>
> A lie. Never said anything similiar.

|You did. And now you're retreating.
No, I didn't. You're imagini ng. I was only trying to
explain you, that ds^2=ds^2. But you're too stupid
even for that. 

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#399754

FromMarion Vanriper <Marion@Vanriper.info>
Date2016-11-26 09:30 +0000
Message-ID<o1bkmp$9di$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#398899
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> "Bernardo Dearmond" wrote:
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> Steven decided to credit Dr. Maryann
>>>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> ROTFL!
>>> 
>>>> in his lectures in Universities.
>>> 
>>> Steven has confirmed to me via e-mail that he knew he was feeding you,
>>> but that he found it worthwhile to post this anyway – *for other*
>>> subscribers*.
>> 
>> [gibberish]

You are afraid and not answering the question, Pointy. A cretin and a
liar. Why should Dr. Steven be taking advices from an not even half-
engineer like you. You are not gonna teach Dr. Steven in his
international lectures at Universities around the world, that he was wrong
in admitting that Dr. Maryann was right?? 

Although, many international physicists already said Dr. Maryann is right, 
and have decided to credit her individually in their lectures.

We already know what you are afraid of, pointy. You are insufficient.

“It doesn't help to change your name,
the trolling idiot is recognized anyway.

One can but wonder what kind of mental disturbance [makes]
a person constantly change [their] name and write nonsense only.”

*PLONK*

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#398698

FromTom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2016-11-17 10:09 -0600
Message-ID<VaadnRNpFuKtS7DFnZ2dnUU7_8zNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#398654
On 11/16/16 11/16/16 - 11:57 PM, JanPB wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 8:26:50 AM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
>>[...]
> Of course all this will go right over Maciej's head.

Dirt on the floor will go right over Maciej's head.

Of course I was responding to Melzzzzz, who pointed out the important truth that 
equations require an explanation of their symbols, so I thought he deserved an 
explanation.

Tom Roberts

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#398630

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-16 12:11 -0800
Message-ID<413d8f37-7172-4a55-aa79-3693b8ca583f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398592
On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 12:09:55 AM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > 
> > > >     ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2
> > > > 
> > > > ...is a square, then please write the entity it's the square _of_. Good luck.
> > > 
> > > So I have my answer: 2)you don't know what ds is .
> > 
> > This is not the answer. You claimed that "ds^2" in my question was
> > a square. Just WRITE the thing this "ds^2" is the square of. Is this
> > some sort of a secret now?
> > 
> > BTW, this is now the SECOND mistake you're making (the first being
> > not answering the test question in the first place). Care to continue?
> > 
> 
> This is your guru: he screams, he waves his arms
> and he doesn't know, what a differential is.

Not even wrong.

--
Jan

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#398658

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-11-16 23:14 -0800
Message-ID<adfa0c4c-71c6-4b04-b87c-ab855c9f1ede@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398630
W dniu środa, 16 listopada 2016 21:11:21 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 12:09:55 AM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >     ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...is a square, then please write the entity it's the square _of_. Good luck.
> > > > 
> > > > So I have my answer: 2)you don't know what ds is .
> > > 
> > > This is not the answer. You claimed that "ds^2" in my question was
> > > a square. Just WRITE the thing this "ds^2" is the square of. Is this
> > > some sort of a secret now?
> > > 
> > > BTW, this is now the SECOND mistake you're making (the first being
> > > not answering the test question in the first place). Care to continue?
> > > 
> > 
> > This is your guru: he screams, he waves his arms
> > and he doesn't know, what a differential is.
> 
> Not even wrong.

This is your guru: he screams, he waves his arms
and he doesn't know, what a differential is.

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#398662

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-16 23:35 -0800
Message-ID<c436a2c5-e58b-4cd9-9cc5-7abaf73fab62@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398658
On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:14:51 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu środa, 16 listopada 2016 21:11:21 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 12:09:55 AM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > >     ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ...is a square, then please write the entity it's the square _of_. Good luck.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So I have my answer: 2)you don't know what ds is .
> > > > 
> > > > This is not the answer. You claimed that "ds^2" in my question was
> > > > a square. Just WRITE the thing this "ds^2" is the square of. Is this
> > > > some sort of a secret now?
> > > > 
> > > > BTW, this is now the SECOND mistake you're making (the first being
> > > > not answering the test question in the first place). Care to continue?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > This is your guru: he screams, he waves his arms
> > > and he doesn't know, what a differential is.
> > 
> > Not even wrong.
> 
> This is your guru: he screams, he waves his arms
> and he doesn't know, what a differential is.

You are making this up just to divert attention from the fact you now cannot answer TWO
simple test questions. All you do when cornered is yell that your opponent "cannot" do
something, the more unrelated the better.

(Of course I do know what differential is but this is irrelevant.)

--
Jan

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#398665

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-11-16 23:52 -0800
Message-ID<403113ed-61db-4147-8de7-5d409af50ab6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398662
W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 08:36:00 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:14:51 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > W dniu środa, 16 listopada 2016 21:11:21 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 12:09:55 AM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >     ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ...is a square, then please write the entity it's the square _of_. Good luck.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So I have my answer: 2)you don't know what ds is .
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is not the answer. You claimed that "ds^2" in my question was
> > > > > a square. Just WRITE the thing this "ds^2" is the square of. Is this
> > > > > some sort of a secret now?
> > > > > 
> > > > > BTW, this is now the SECOND mistake you're making (the first being
> > > > > not answering the test question in the first place). Care to continue?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > This is your guru: he screams, he waves his arms
> > > > and he doesn't know, what a differential is.
> > > 
> > > Not even wrong.
> > 
> > This is your guru: he screams, he waves his arms
> > and he doesn't know, what a differential is.
> 
> You are making this up just to divert attention from the fact you now cannot answer TWO
> simple test questions.

A lie, as expected from relativistic trash.
You are making this up just to divert attention from 
the fact you don't know what a differential is.

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#398670

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-17 00:25 -0800
Message-ID<abebdf35-9585-42a5-aa23-dd1197eb885c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398665
On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:52:31 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 08:36:00 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:14:51 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > W dniu środa, 16 listopada 2016 21:11:21 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 12:09:55 AM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >     ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > ...is a square, then please write the entity it's the square _of_. Good luck.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So I have my answer: 2)you don't know what ds is .
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is not the answer. You claimed that "ds^2" in my question was
> > > > > > a square. Just WRITE the thing this "ds^2" is the square of. Is this
> > > > > > some sort of a secret now?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > BTW, this is now the SECOND mistake you're making (the first being
> > > > > > not answering the test question in the first place). Care to continue?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is your guru: he screams, he waves his arms
> > > > > and he doesn't know, what a differential is.
> > > > 
> > > > Not even wrong.
> > > 
> > > This is your guru: he screams, he waves his arms
> > > and he doesn't know, what a differential is.
> > 
> > You are making this up just to divert attention from the fact you now cannot answer TWO
> > simple test questions.
> 
> A lie, as expected from relativistic trash.
> You are making this up just to divert attention from 
> the fact you don't know what a differential is.

Asking me a question is not an answer. And if you cannot answer, it means you have no 
standing to reject relativity en bloc, in stupidly foul language, no less.

--
Jan

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#398678

Frompaparios <paparios@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-17 03:59 -0800
Message-ID<3f5e9a90-ca70-4915-aa5f-38d8f3958e78@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398670
On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 5:26:00 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:52:31 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 08:36:00 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:14:51 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > > W dniu środa, 16 listopada 2016 21:11:21 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > > > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 12:09:55 AM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >     ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > ...is a square, then please write the entity it's the square _of_. Good luck.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So I have my answer: 2)you don't know what ds is .
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This is not the answer. You claimed that "ds^2" in my question was
> > > > > > > a square. Just WRITE the thing this "ds^2" is the square of. Is this
> > > > > > > some sort of a secret now?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > BTW, this is now the SECOND mistake you're making (the first being
> > > > > > > not answering the test question in the first place). Care to continue?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is your guru: he screams, he waves his arms
> > > > > > and he doesn't know, what a differential is.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Not even wrong.
> > > > 
> > > > This is your guru: he screams, he waves his arms
> > > > and he doesn't know, what a differential is.
> > > 
> > > You are making this up just to divert attention from the fact you now cannot answer TWO
> > > simple test questions.
> > 
> > A lie, as expected from relativistic trash.
> > You are making this up just to divert attention from 
> > the fact you don't know what a differential is.
> 
> Asking me a question is not an answer. And if you cannot answer, it means you have no 
> standing to reject relativity en bloc, in stupidly foul language, no less.
> 
> --
> Jan

Unfortunately, this is what you get when talking to lunatics. This guy along with Wilson, Seto, Valev, the nymshifter, the number crunching idiot, Riedt, etc. are just that: pure and simple lunatics which fill their poor lives by writing nonsense on a daily basis. 

Unfortunately, the Internet is becoming a fertile field for all these loons and this group has steadily been decreasing in the quality of the science discussion.

I remember with nostalgia the high level discussion on the speed of gravity involving Carlip, Roberts, Van Flandern ond other, some 20 years ago which resulted in some ISI papers. While Van Flandern was a sort of loon (by his exploding planet theory and his support of the Mars face artificial origin), he had a PhD in Astronomy from Yale, and he knew the math and the discussion here was quite interesting.

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#398679

From"Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com>
Date2016-11-17 12:12 +0000
Message-ID<o0k6qr$2a4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#398678
paparios wrote:
> On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 5:26:00 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:52:31 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>>> W dniu czwartek, 17 listopada 2016 08:36:00 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:14:51 PM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>>>>> W dniu środa, 16 listopada 2016 21:11:21 UTC+1 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 12:09:55 AM UTC-8, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>      ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...is a square, then please write the entity it's the square _of_. Good luck.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So I have my answer: 2)you don't know what ds is .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is not the answer. You claimed that "ds^2" in my question was
>>>>>>>> a square. Just WRITE the thing this "ds^2" is the square of. Is this
>>>>>>>> some sort of a secret now?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW, this is now the SECOND mistake you're making (the first being
>>>>>>>> not answering the test question in the first place). Care to continue?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is your guru: he screams, he waves his arms
>>>>>>> and he doesn't know, what a differential is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not even wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is your guru: he screams, he waves his arms
>>>>> and he doesn't know, what a differential is.
>>>>
>>>> You are making this up just to divert attention from the fact you now cannot answer TWO
>>>> simple test questions.
>>>
>>> A lie, as expected from relativistic trash.
>>> You are making this up just to divert attention from
>>> the fact you don't know what a differential is.
>>
>> Asking me a question is not an answer. And if you cannot answer, it means you have no
>> standing to reject relativity en bloc, in stupidly foul language, no less.
>>
>> --
>> Jan
>
> Unfortunately, this is what you get when talking to lunatics. This guy along with Wilson, Seto, Valev, the nymshifter, the number crunching idiot, Riedt, etc. are just that: pure and simple lunatics which fill their poor lives by writing nonsense on a daily basis.
>
> Unfortunately, the Internet is becoming a fertile field for all these loons and this group has steadily been decreasing in the quality of the science discussion.
>
> I remember with nostalgia the high level discussion on the speed of gravity involving Carlip, Roberts, Van Flandern ond other, some 20 years ago which resulted in some ISI papers. While Van Flandern was a sort of loon (by his exploding planet theory and his support of the Mars face artificial origin), he had a PhD in Astronomy from Yale, and he knew the math and the discussion here was quite interesting.
>

What was decided on the speed of gravity?  I'm hopeless at this sort of 
stuff, but I've often wondered if it is propagated (or whatever happens 
to it) over any distance instantly.

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#398750

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2016-11-18 05:07 +0100
Message-ID<2006257.ElGaqSPkdT@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#398679
Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That is probably as forged as your e-mail address.

> What was decided on the speed of gravity?

Equals the speed of light.

> I'm hopeless at this sort of stuff, but I've often wondered if it is
> propagated (or whatever happens to it) over any distance instantly.

Have you been sleeping through the media circus caused by the detection
of gravitational waves this year?

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#398771

From"Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com>
Date2016-11-18 10:02 +0000
Message-ID<o0mjiv$ft2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#398750
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> That is probably as forged as your e-mail address.

My real name is rather boring, and I thought no-one in usenet cared 
about real names anyway :-)  I tend to change display names whenever I 
think of a more 'amusing' one.

>> What was decided on the speed of gravity?
>
> Equals the speed of light.

Thanks.

>> I'm hopeless at this sort of stuff, but I've often wondered if it is
>> propagated (or whatever happens to it) over any distance instantly.
>
> Have you been sleeping through the media circus caused by the detection
> of gravitational waves this year?

I don't watch TV, so although I'm not exposed to the usual garbage, I do 
occasionally miss interesting stuff.

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#398822

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2016-11-18 22:13 +0100
Message-ID<5123693.MhkbZ0Pkbq@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#398771
Dan S. MacAbre wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> That is probably as forged as your e-mail address.
> 
> My real name is rather boring, and I thought no-one in usenet cared
> about real names anyway :-)  I tend to change display names whenever I
> think of a more 'amusing' one.

However, to post using your real name, however boring you think it is, will 
go a long way for you to be taken seriously on Usenet (especially in a 
scientific newsgroup like this).  Because the record shows that those who do 
not post using their real name are, more often than not, trolls: people who 
only post to provocate others from the shadow of *assumed* anonymity and who 
find delight in the irritated responses.
 
>>> What was decided on the speed of gravity?
>> Equals the speed of light.
> 
> Thanks.

You’re welcome.
 
>>> I'm hopeless at this sort of stuff, but I've often wondered if it is
>>> propagated (or whatever happens to it) over any distance instantly.
>> Have you been sleeping through the media circus caused by the detection
>> of gravitational waves this year?
> 
> I don't watch TV, so although I'm not exposed to the usual garbage, I do
> occasionally miss interesting stuff.

“Media” in this case includes everything from newspapers, magazines and 
radio broadcasts to the whole Internet :)

HTH

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
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