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New Gravity Theory

Started bykenseto <setoken@att.net>
First post2017-04-10 06:07 -0700
Last post2017-04-26 13:38 -0700
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  New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-10 06:07 -0700
    Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-10 15:40 +0000
      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-10 09:49 -0700
        Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-10 19:09 +0000
    Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-10 17:47 +0200
      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-10 09:53 -0700
        Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-12 08:04 +0200
          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 05:51 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-12 14:53 +0200
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 07:32 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-12 16:40 +0200
                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 13:39 -0700
                    Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 16:03 -0700
                      Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 05:04 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory Heki Entouba <buububu@enou3eh.ac> - 2017-04-13 12:09 +0000
                        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 12:19 -0700
                          Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 23:00 -0700
                            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 15:02 -0700
                      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-13 12:57 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 15:04 -0700
                          Re: New Gravity Theory Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 14:25 +0000
                            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 15:09 -0700
                              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-15 10:44 -0700
                          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-14 08:22 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 15:07 -0700
                  Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 22:07 -0500
                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-17 05:17 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-12 16:00 +0000
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-13 13:13 -0700
    Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 13:40 -0700
      Re: New Gravity Theory "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-10 14:52 -0700
        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-10 15:19 -0700
      Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-10 23:25 -0700
      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-11 07:39 -0700
        Re: New Gravity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 10:15 -0700
          Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-11 10:52 -0700
          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-11 11:12 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 11:35 -0700
              Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-11 11:41 -0700
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-11 21:46 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-12 04:31 -0700
                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 06:07 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-11 20:32 +0000
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-11 21:51 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-12 16:07 +0000
        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 20:35 -0700
          Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-11 23:18 -0700
          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 05:45 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-12 16:06 +0000
            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 10:40 -0700
              Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 05:03 -0700
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-13 13:09 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 13:17 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-13 21:43 +0000
                Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 15:18 -0700
                  Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-15 01:02 -0700
                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-15 12:34 -0700
                    Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-15 23:07 +0200
                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 15:14 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-16 10:23 +0200
                          Re: New Gravity Theory Emma Harmony <aymmmaeo@anownwrm.cm> - 2017-04-16 15:05 +0000
                    Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 15:14 -0700
                      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-16 05:42 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 16:54 -0700
                          Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-17 06:11 -0700
                            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 12:37 -0700
                              Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 14:42 -0500
                                Re: New Gravity Theory benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-18 18:25 -0400
                                Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 05:26 -0700
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Ward Jenkins <uaar@rwjawr2r.aa> - 2017-04-19 13:08 +0000
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 12:30 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-19 19:34 +0000
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:16 -0700
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 13:25 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:45 -0700
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 14:02 -0700
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 07:16 -0700
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 13:08 -0700
                                                Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-20 14:05 -0700
                                                Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 21:05 +0000
                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 14:26 -0700
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-08 13:44 +0000
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 06:24 -0700
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 06:50 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 14:45 -0500
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 13:00 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:22 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-19 23:20 -0700
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-20 12:11 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 07:06 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-20 16:47 +0200
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 09:56 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-20 23:48 +0200
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 15:13 -0700
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-21 10:49 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:13 +0000
                              Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-18 13:19 -0700
                              Re: New Gravity Theory Ward Jenkins <uaar@rwjawr2r.aa> - 2017-04-19 13:02 +0000
                                Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-19 15:40 +0200
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-19 18:05 +0000
                          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-17 06:34 -0700
                            Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 16:03 +0000
                              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-17 13:11 -0700
                                Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 01:42 +0000
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-18 06:17 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 20:17 +0000
                            Re: New Gravity Theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-19 20:30 +0200
                              Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-19 19:37 +0000
                              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 13:19 -0700
                                Re: New Gravity Theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-20 14:09 +0200
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:12 +0000
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 15:26 -0700
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-25 01:29 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-25 10:35 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 14:21 -0700
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-26 05:58 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Himère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc> - 2017-04-26 14:26 +0000
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:07 -0500
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-26 06:53 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-26 05:55 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-26 17:51 +0000
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 12:30 -0700
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-27 06:43 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 13:02 -0700
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-27 14:53 -0700
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 14:56 -0700
                                                Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-28 05:37 -0700
                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 16:44 -0700
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-29 06:47 -0700
                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:11 -0500
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-30 07:49 -0700
                                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:59 -0500
                                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-01 11:56 -0700
                                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:20 -0500
                                                            Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:23 -0500
                                                            Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 22:41 -0700
                                                              Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 14:11 -0500
                                                                Re: New Gravity Theory RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-02 12:25 -0700
                                                                Re: New Gravity Theory "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 07:47 +0100
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-28 14:18 +0100
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 17:46 +0200
                                                Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 14:43 -0700
                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:12 -0500
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 17:23 +0200
                                                      Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-29 13:58 -0700
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-29 13:56 -0700
                                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 15:59 -0500
                                                        Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-30 00:55 -0700
                                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 08:01 -0500
                                                            Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 22:47 -0700
                                                              Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 14:13 -0500
                                                                Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-03 04:01 -0700
                                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 13:04 -0500
                                                          Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:25 -0700
                                                            Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 22:52 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:09 -0500
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-30 07:42 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-30 18:19 +0000
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-30 17:33 -0700
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-01 02:39 +0000
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:57 -0500
                              Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-19 23:15 +0200
                                Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-20 01:21 +0200
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-26 20:18 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Himère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc> - 2017-04-26 19:20 +0000
                                Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 07:44 -0700
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:09 +0000
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-05-07 02:06 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-07 07:14 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 14:19 +0000
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-05-07 17:45 +0200
                        Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-17 10:24 +0200
          Re: New Gravity Theory RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-26 13:08 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:23 +0200
            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 13:38 -0700

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#416493

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-17 06:34 -0700
Message-ID<e0a6c598-3fe1-467a-ba17-14cdb37514bb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#416459
On Sunday, April 16, 2017 at 7:54:49 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> On Sunday, April 16, 2017 at 5:42:57 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 6:14:21 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 12:34:15 PM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 6:18:03 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 1:09:28 PM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 1:40:24 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 5:45:49 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 11:35:59 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 7:39:39 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 4:40:50 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 6:07:57 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > The paper in the following link describes a new theory of gravity called DTG:
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2015gravity.pdf
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > DTG is compatible with all the other forces of nature and thus the unification of all the forces of nature becomes feasible.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > It's junk. You are wasting your life away.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Jan
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > You are not qualifies to evaluate my theory.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Really? 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yes really. Your comment: "It's junk" shows to me that your have no idea the physics of my theory.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The point remains: if you cannot do simple classical mechanics, you are
> > > > > > > wasting your time on this. End of story.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What simple classical mechanics that I cannot do? I have a new theory of gravity what is wrong with it?
> > > > > 
> > > > > You cannot calculate a Hamiltonian from a Lagrangian. This means you have
> > > > > no understanding of the basics. Hence, your theory is junk. IT CANNOT BE
> > > > > ANY OTHER WAY. Sorry.
> > > > 
> > > > No...that's an idiotic mathematician's point of view.
> > > 
> > > No, it's not any specific person's point of view, it's a universal pattern. Again I'm asking: would
> > > you allow a surgery to be done on you by a post office clerk? Or even post office _manager_? 
> > > No? So what makes you think that physics knowledge is any different in that sense? 
> > 
> > It is a failed Mathematician's (you) point of view.
> 
> It's no a "point of view", it's a QUESTION: would you allow a surgery to be done on you by a 
> post office clerk? Or even post office _manager_? 
> 
> No? So what makes you think that physics knowledge is any different in that sense? 

That's a poor analogy......The surgeon refuses to adopt new improved method of doing surgery.
Math without physical constraints will lead to non-existing mathematical objects. 
I came up with one physical description of our universe called Model Mechanics that is capable explaining all the processes of nature. Also Model Mechanics provides physical explanation for all the successful math developed. That means that the combination of Model Mechanics and existing math can lead to a theory of everything.

I invite you to read Chapter 2 of my book in the following link:
http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf

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#416513

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-04-17 16:03 +0000
Message-ID<od2p0h$4j5$4@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#416493
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>> > It is a failed Mathematician's (you) point of view.

>> It's no a "point of view", it's a QUESTION: would you allow a surgery to
>>be done on you by a
>> post office clerk? Or even post office _manager_?

>> No? So what makes you think that physics knowledge is any different in
>> that sense?

>That's a poor analogy......The surgeon refuses to adopt new improved method
> of doing surgery.
>Math without physical constraints will lead to non-existing mathematical objects.

You really didn't understand the question at all, did you.

>I came up with one physical description of our universe called Model Mechanics that

has failed completely and utterly.

>I invite you to read Chapter 2 of my book in the following link:
>http://www.modеlmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf

How can he read your Chapter 2 if your link doesn't even work?

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#416529

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-17 13:11 -0700
Message-ID<d728933f-ebe9-42dd-b76b-6fcc5d255cd3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#416513
On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 12:03:32 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> 
> >> > It is a failed Mathematician's (you) point of view.
> 
> >> It's no a "point of view", it's a QUESTION: would you allow a surgery to
> >>be done on you by a
> >> post office clerk? Or even post office _manager_?
> 
> >> No? So what makes you think that physics knowledge is any different in
> >> that sense?
> 
> >That's a poor analogy......The surgeon refuses to adopt new improved method
> > of doing surgery.
> >Math without physical constraints will lead to non-existing mathematical objects.
> 
> You really didn't understand the question at all, did you.
> 
> >I came up with one physical description of our universe called Model Mechanics that
> 
> has failed completely and utterly.
> that you change your name 
> >I invite you to read Chapter 2 of my book in the following link:
> >http://www.modеlmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> 
> How can he read your Chapter 2 if your link doesn't even work?

The link I provided works just fine.....Maybe the internet towns that your name is Moron-y and that's why it refuse to let you read it or perhaps it knows you changed the link and it provide itself a defense mechanism.....namely not let that Moron-y to view the correct link. In any case I suggest that you change your name to avoid further trouble from the net.

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#416553

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-04-18 01:42 +0000
Message-ID<od3qt9$ee6$5@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#416529
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>> >I came up with one physical description of our universe called Model Mechanics that
>> has failed completely and utterly.
>> that you change your name
>> >I invite you to read Chapter 2 of my book in the following link:
>> >http://www.modеlmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf

>> How can he read your Chapter 2 if your link doesn't even work?

>The link I provided works just fine.....Maybe the internet towns that your
>name is Moron-y and that's why it refuse to let you read it or perhaps it
>knows you changed the link and it provide itself a defense mechanism.....namely
>not let that Moron-y to view the correct link. In any case I suggest that
>you change your name to avoid further trouble from the net.

Stupid Ken, you're really babbling nonsense now.

p.s. fix your link.

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#416582

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-18 06:17 -0700
Message-ID<2ed89337-3d1c-4d12-b0e6-85dada780512@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#416553
On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 9:42:03 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> 
> >> >I came up with one physical description of our universe called Model Mechanics that
> >> has failed completely and utterly.
> >> that you change your name
> >> >I invite you to read Chapter 2 of my book in the following link:
> >> >http://www.modеlmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> 
> >> How can he read your Chapter 2 if your link doesn't even work?
> 
> >The link I provided works just fine.....Maybe the internet towns that your
> >name is Moron-y and that's why it refuse to let you read it or perhaps it
> >knows you changed the link and it provide itself a defense mechanism.....namely
> >not let that Moron-y to view the correct link. In any case I suggest that
> >you change your name to avoid further trouble from the net.
> 
> Stupid Ken, you're really babbling nonsense now.
> 
> p.s. fix your link.

Hey moron.....The link I provided works just fine. It doesn't work if you redirect it to the following non-existing link: 
www.xn--modlmechanics-y3k.org/2016ibook.pdf

Gee you are so fucking stupid.....no wonder your name is Moron-y.

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#416609

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-04-18 20:17 +0000
Message-ID<od5s91$jgk$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#416582
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>www.xn--modlmechanics-y3k.org/2016ibook.pdf

Wow, Ken, not only is your link still broken, it is really obviously
broken this time. You're slipping...

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#416684

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2017-04-19 20:30 +0200
Message-ID<od8acj$ear$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#416493
Den 17.04.2017 15.34, skrev kenseto:
>
> I invite you to read Chapter 2 of my book in the following link:
> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf

 From where I quote:
  <<
   The Horizon Problem
   -------------------
   One of the most pressing problems of the Standard Big Bang
   Model is the observed horizon problem. The age of our universe
   is determined to be 14 billion years old in all directions and yet
   we observe the horizon for the opposite regions of our universe
   to be 28 billion years apart. In fact if all the regions are included
   the observed horizon of the universe is estimated to be 46 billion
   years. This means that these opposite regions of our universe
   cannot be in contact with each other at the Big Bang and this is
   known as the horizon problem.
  >>

No comment!

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#416692

FromLoma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei>
Date2017-04-19 19:37 +0000
Message-ID<od8e9k$1d7f$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#416684
Paul B. Andersen wrote:

>> I invite you to read Chapter 2 of my book in the following link:
>> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> 
>  From where I quote:
>    The Horizon Problem -------------------
>    One of the most pressing problems of the Standard Big Bang Model is
>    the observed horizon problem. The age of our universe is determined
>    to be 14 billion years old in all directions and yet we observe the
>    horizon for the opposite regions of our universe to be 28 billion
>    years apart. In fact if all the regions are included the observed
>    horizon of the universe is estimated to be 46 billion years. This
>    means that these opposite regions of our universe cannot be in
>    contact with each other at the Big Bang and this is known as the
>    horizon problem.
> No comment!

Fully consistent, as the length contraction, well beknown, only takes 
place in the orthogonal direction.

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#416698

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-19 13:19 -0700
Message-ID<2034830f-d34f-4a1a-8f2c-db1dfadc8dba@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#416684
On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 2:30:45 PM UTC-4, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Den 17.04.2017 15.34, skrev kenseto:
> >
> > I invite you to read Chapter 2 of my book in the following link:
> > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> 
>  From where I quote:
>   <<
>    The Horizon Problem
>    -------------------
>    One of the most pressing problems of the Standard Big Bang
>    Model is the observed horizon problem. The age of our universe
>    is determined to be 14 billion years old in all directions and yet
>    we observe the horizon for the opposite regions of our universe
>    to be 28 billion years apart. In fact if all the regions are included
>    the observed horizon of the universe is estimated to be 46 billion
>    years. This means that these opposite regions of our universe
>    cannot be in contact with each other at the Big Bang and this is
>    known as the horizon problem.
>   >>
> 
> No comment!

Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the Horizon Problem?

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#416735

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2017-04-20 14:09 +0200
Message-ID<oda8el$e92$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#416698
Den 19.04.2017 22.19, skrev kenseto:
> On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 2:30:45 PM UTC-4, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> Den 17.04.2017 15.34, skrev kenseto:
>>>
>>> I invite you to read Chapter 2 of my book in the following link:
>>> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
>>
>>  From where I quote:
>>   <<
>>    The Horizon Problem
>>    -------------------
>>    One of the most pressing problems of the Standard Big Bang
>>    Model is the observed horizon problem. The age of our universe
>>    is determined to be 14 billion years old in all directions and yet
>>    we observe the horizon for the opposite regions of our universe
>>    to be 28 billion years apart. In fact if all the regions are included
>>    the observed horizon of the universe is estimated to be 46 billion
>>    years. This means that these opposite regions of our universe
>>    cannot be in contact with each other at the Big Bang and this is
>>    known as the horizon problem.
>>   >>
>>
>> No comment!
>
> Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the Horizon Problem?

OK.
http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
 From where I quote:
  <<
   Model Mechanics explains the horizon problem naturally without
   resorting to the ad hoc Inflation hypothesis. The earth is in
   a state of absolute motion in the E-Matrix. This motion curves
   the E-Strings  surrounding the earth. What we perceive as normal
   and straight E-Strings are actually severely curved E-Strings.
   In other words, when we look up in the sky we are actually
   receiving light from these curved E-Strings. This means that
   no matter what direction we look we are looking into the same
   curved E-Strings and thus the same region of the universe.
  >>

Still no comment!

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#416762

FromLoma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei>
Date2017-04-20 17:12 +0000
Message-ID<odaq55$19sv$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#416735
Paul B. Andersen wrote:

>> Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the
>> Horizon Problem?
> 
> OK. http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
>  From where I quote:
>    Model Mechanics explains the horizon problem naturally without
>    resorting to the ad hoc Inflation hypothesis. The earth is in a state
>    of absolute motion in the E-Matrix. This motion curves the E-Strings 
>    surrounding the earth. What we perceive as normal and straight
>    E-Strings are actually severely curved E-Strings. In other words,
>    when we look up in the sky we are actually receiving light from these
>    curved E-Strings. This means that no matter what direction we look we
>    are looking into the same curved E-Strings and thus the same region
>    of the universe.
> Still no comment!

Of course, since you don't understand.

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#416790

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-20 15:26 -0700
Message-ID<6344e44b-5f81-407f-a4b8-91c463806854@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#416735
On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 8:10:00 AM UTC-4, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Den 19.04.2017 22.19, skrev kenseto:
> > On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 2:30:45 PM UTC-4, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> >> Den 17.04.2017 15.34, skrev kenseto:
> >>>
> >>> I invite you to read Chapter 2 of my book in the following link:
> >>> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> >>
> >>  From where I quote:
> >>   <<
> >>    The Horizon Problem
> >>    -------------------
> >>    One of the most pressing problems of the Standard Big Bang
> >>    Model is the observed horizon problem. The age of our universe
> >>    is determined to be 14 billion years old in all directions and yet
> >>    we observe the horizon for the opposite regions of our universe
> >>    to be 28 billion years apart. In fact if all the regions are included
> >>    the observed horizon of the universe is estimated to be 46 billion
> >>    years. This means that these opposite regions of our universe
> >>    cannot be in contact with each other at the Big Bang and this is
> >>    known as the horizon problem.
> >>   >>
> >>
> >> No comment!
> >
> > Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the Horizon Problem?
> 
> OK.
> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
>  From where I quote:
>   <<
>    Model Mechanics explains the horizon problem naturally without
>    resorting to the ad hoc Inflation hypothesis. The earth is in
>    a state of absolute motion in the E-Matrix. This motion curves
>    the E-Strings  surrounding the earth. What we perceive as normal
>    and straight E-Strings are actually severely curved E-Strings.
>    In other words, when we look up in the sky we are actually
>    receiving light from these curved E-Strings. This means that
>    no matter what direction we look we are looking into the same
>    curved E-Strings and thus the same region of the universe.
>   >>
> 
> Still no comment!

Got it.....So that means that you don't understand the horizon problem and its ad hoc solution.

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#417161

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2017-04-25 01:29 +0200
Message-ID<1691132.1P58zdDbaM@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#416735
Paul B. Andersen wrote:

> Den 19.04.2017 22.19, skrev kenseto:
>> Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the
>> Horizon Problem?
> 
> OK.
> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
>  From where I quote:
>   <<
>    Model Mechanics explains the horizon problem naturally without
>    resorting to the ad hoc Inflation hypothesis. The earth is in
>    a state of absolute motion in the E-Matrix. This motion curves
>    the E-Strings  surrounding the earth. What we perceive as normal
>    and straight E-Strings are actually severely curved E-Strings.
>    In other words, when we look up in the sky we are actually
>    receiving light from these curved E-Strings. This means that
>    no matter what direction we look we are looking into the same
>    curved E-Strings and thus the same region of the universe.
>   >>
> 
> Still no comment!

Indeed, other than “Not even wrong” nothing comes to mind.

This is how crackpots work:

  1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.

  2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
     science (bonus points for using fancy labels).

  3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
     the perceived problem.

  4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
     pat oneself on the back.
 
-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#417221

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-04-25 10:35 -0700
Message-ID<7aa0b9a9-e213-4d50-9426-16dda5970564@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417161
W dniu wtorek, 25 kwietnia 2017 01:29:26 UTC+2 użytkownik Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn napisał:

> This is how crackpots work:
> 
>   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.
> 
>   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
>      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).
> 
>   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
>      the perceived problem.
> 
>   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
>      pat oneself on the back.

And the above is how a follower of The Shit works:
As anyone can see, apart from arm waving he represents 
exactly nothing.

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#417239

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-25 14:21 -0700
Message-ID<b30c4327-5212-4a65-b9e7-221a19160b70@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417221
On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 10:35:25 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu wtorek, 25 kwietnia 2017 01:29:26 UTC+2 użytkownik Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn napisał:
> 
> > This is how crackpots work:
> > 
> >   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.
> > 
> >   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
> >      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).
> > 
> >   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
> >      the perceived problem.
> > 
> >   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
> >      pat oneself on the back.
> 
> And the above is how a follower of The Shit works:
> As anyone can see, apart from arm waving he represents 
> exactly nothing.

You cannot make sweeping statements like this one because you don't
understand the subject. Feel free to comment on small simple tidbits
but general claims you make are worthless.

--
Jan

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#417306

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-26 05:58 -0700
Message-ID<be8ed526-afdd-438c-964f-67fb4d954345@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417239
On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 5:21:43 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 10:35:25 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > W dniu wtorek, 25 kwietnia 2017 01:29:26 UTC+2 użytkownik Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn napisał:
> > 
> > > This is how crackpots work:
> > > 
> > >   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.
> > > 
> > >   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
> > >      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).
> > > 
> > >   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
> > >      the perceived problem.
> > > 
> > >   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
> > >      pat oneself on the back.
> > 
> > And the above is how a follower of The Shit works:
> > As anyone can see, apart from arm waving he represents 
> > exactly nothing.
> 
> You cannot make sweeping statements like this one because you don't
> understand the subject. Feel free to comment on small simple tidbits
> but general claims you make are worthless.
> 

You don't understand that physical theory is superior to math theory.

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#417315

FromHimère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc>
Date2017-04-26 14:26 +0000
Message-ID<odqalj$6sb$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417306
kenseto wrote:

>> You cannot make sweeping statements like this one because you don't
>> understand the subject. Feel free to comment on small simple tidbits
>> but general claims you make are worthless.
>
> You don't understand that physical theory is superior to math theory.

ah ah, the other way around.

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#417645

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-29 10:07 -0500
Message-ID<oe2a8e$rl9$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417306
On 4/26/17 7:58 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 5:21:43 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 10:35:25 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>>> W dniu wtorek, 25 kwietnia 2017 01:29:26 UTC+2 użytkownik Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn napisał:
>>>
>>>> This is how crackpots work:
>>>>
>>>>    1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.
>>>>
>>>>    2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
>>>>       science (bonus points for using fancy labels).
>>>>
>>>>    3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
>>>>       the perceived problem.
>>>>
>>>>    4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
>>>>       pat oneself on the back.
>>>
>>> And the above is how a follower of The Shit works:
>>> As anyone can see, apart from arm waving he represents
>>> exactly nothing.
>>
>> You cannot make sweeping statements like this one because you don't
>> understand the subject. Feel free to comment on small simple tidbits
>> but general claims you make are worthless.
>>
> 
> You don't understand that physical theory is superior to math theory.
> 

A physical theory that is lacking mathematical support is not a physical 
theory.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#417311

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-04-26 06:53 -0700
Message-ID<ac618480-f890-4226-a657-6f3479b3c9bf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417239
W dniu wtorek, 25 kwietnia 2017 23:21:43 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 10:35:25 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > W dniu wtorek, 25 kwietnia 2017 01:29:26 UTC+2 użytkownik Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn napisał:
> > 
> > > This is how crackpots work:
> > > 
> > >   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.
> > > 
> > >   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
> > >      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).
> > > 
> > >   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
> > >      the perceived problem.
> > > 
> > >   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
> > >      pat oneself on the back.
> > 
> > And the above is how a follower of The Shit works:
> > As anyone can see, apart from arm waving he represents 
> > exactly nothing.
> 
> You cannot make sweeping statements like this one because you don't
> understand the subject.

Besides, you're a queen of England.
And, of course, syntax schmyntax too.
Right, poor idiot?

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#417305

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-26 05:55 -0700
Message-ID<f4757171-aa27-450c-84f4-b098ae5fd6eb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417161
On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 7:29:26 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> 
> > Den 19.04.2017 22.19, skrev kenseto:
> >> Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the
> >> Horizon Problem?
> > 
> > OK.
> > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> >  From where I quote:
> >   <<
> >    Model Mechanics explains the horizon problem naturally without
> >    resorting to the ad hoc Inflation hypothesis. The earth is in
> >    a state of absolute motion in the E-Matrix. This motion curves
> >    the E-Strings  surrounding the earth. What we perceive as normal
> >    and straight E-Strings are actually severely curved E-Strings.
> >    In other words, when we look up in the sky we are actually
> >    receiving light from these curved E-Strings. This means that
> >    no matter what direction we look we are looking into the same
> >    curved E-Strings and thus the same region of the universe.
> >   >>
> > 
> > Still no comment!
> 
> Indeed, other than “Not even wrong” nothing comes to mind.

That's because your mind is empty.

> This is how crackpots work:
> 
>   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.

Your understanding of science is hand waving.
> 
>   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
>      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).

The Horizon problem exits and the problem was resolved by inventing the inflation concept.
> 
>   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
>      the perceived problem.

Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe. The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and therefore granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.

> 
>   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
>      pat oneself on the back.

Idiot.....The physical model of Model Mechanics resolved all the problems encountered by current theories and therefore it is a superior theory

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