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| Started by | Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-08-24 19:03 +0200 |
| Last post | 2017-08-25 15:07 +0200 |
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The train crosses the station Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 19:03 +0200
Re: The train crosses the station Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-25 15:07 +0200
| From | Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-24 19:03 +0200 |
| Subject | The train crosses the station |
| Message-ID | <onn0th$bop$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
The AB station and the MN train have both their own length of 16 dashes. The speed is 8 dashes in the time unit (gamma=2), At the time of the meeting between A and N the time of A is t=0 and that of N is t'=0. C is the middle point of AB and R is the midpoint of MN. In the station reference frame K, train length MN is contracted with 8 dashes: ---M---R-->N----------------------------- time of N: t'=0 -----------A-------C-------B----------->x time of K: t=0 In the train reference frame K', station AB moves backwards and is contracted with 8 dashes: ---------------------------A<--C---B----- time of A: t=0 -----------M-------R-------N----------->x time of K': t'=0 After a unit time of the station (when it is t=1), the N head of the train (which is advanced by 8 dashes) lies in front of C and the tail M lies in front of A: -----------M---R-->N--------------------- -----------A-------C-------B----------->x time of K: t=1 At that exact moment of the station (t=1) a series of machine guns ranging from A to C opens the fire simultaneously (in K) and destroys the entire MN train before the N head of the train can exceed C point. In this way the station master knows that he has secured the second part of the station (C to B) where there is the family of the Divine Emperor of the Kingdom of K. In the train reference frame K', after a unit time (when t' is = 1) the end of station A (which is advanced of 8 dashes) is in front of R and the other end B is in front of N: -------------------A<--C---B------------- -----------M-------R-------N----------->x time of K': t'=1 At that exact moment of the train (when t'=1) a series of machine guns ranging from R to N opens the fire simultaneously (in K') and destroys the whole station AB before A can exceed the point R. In this way the train master knows that he has protected the second part of the train (from R to M) where there is the family of the Divine Emperor of the Kingdom of K'. How could both families of the Divine Emperors be rescued if the station's machine guns destroyed the whole train and the train's machine guns destroyed the whole station? -- Luigi Fortunati Credere e' piu' facile che pensare Believing is easier than thinking
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2017-08-25 15:07 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1634519.atdPhlSkOF@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #429916 |
Luigi Fortunati wrote: > The AB station and the MN train have both their own length of 16 > dashes. > The speed is 8 dashes in the time unit (gamma=2), Not even wrong. As you have been told before, a Lorentz factor of gamma = 2 corresponds to a relative speed of about c∕√(1 − 1∕2²) = 0.867 c. Speed is *relative*; it is measured in a particular frame of reference, and for the *same* body is *different* in different frames of reference unless the frames in question are comoving. > […] > How could both families of the Divine Emperors be rescued if the > station's machine guns destroyed the whole train and the train's > machine guns destroyed the whole station? Do your own homework. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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