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NASA commemorate Challenger crew

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First post2016-01-30 18:31 +0000
Last post2016-01-31 11:32 +0000
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  NASA commemorate Challenger crew Polikwaptiwa <polikw@polikwamail.org> - 2016-01-30 18:31 +0000
    Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew Harumi Kazuko <harumik@starwarsmail.org> - 2016-01-30 19:37 +0000
      Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-30 22:13 +0100
        Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew Harumi Kazuko <harumik@starwarsmail.org> - 2016-01-30 21:45 +0000
          Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-01-31 08:14 +0100
    Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-30 21:55 +0100
    Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 14:11 -0800
    Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-31 11:34 +1100
      Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 22:49 -0800
        Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-01-31 08:39 +0100
          Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew Harumi Kazuko <harumik@starwarsmail.org> - 2016-01-31 11:15 +0000
          Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 11:48 -0800
            Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-01 13:48 +0100
              Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 12:38 -0800
                Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-02 13:35 +0100
                  Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 14:00 -0800
    Re: NASA commemorate Challenger crew Harumi Kazuko <harumik@starwarsmail.org> - 2016-01-31 11:32 +0000

#375243 — NASA commemorate Challenger crew

FromPolikwaptiwa <polikw@polikwamail.org>
Date2016-01-30 18:31 +0000
SubjectNASA commemorate Challenger crew
Message-ID<n8ivhr$1ibe$1@gioia.aioe.org>
USA: NASA commemorate Challenger crew on 30th anniversary of disaster 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG0vIAd6f_Y

So the Moon Landing does not need celebration anymore??

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#375247

FromHarumi Kazuko <harumik@starwarsmail.org>
Date2016-01-30 19:37 +0000
Message-ID<n8j3ed$1ol9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#375243
Polikwaptiwa wrote:

> USA: NASA commemorate Challenger crew on 30th anniversary of disaster
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG0vIAd6f_Y
> 
> So the Moon Landing does not need celebration anymore??

The presenter starts by connecting the disaster to various attacks. Wasn't 
the disaster his own sole responsibility? What has those attacks to do 
with nasa? Anyone can get it?

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#375258

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2016-01-30 22:13 +0100
Message-ID<1590503.fonVOQb7pB@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#375247
Harumi Kazuko wrote:

> Polikwaptiwa wrote:
>> USA: NASA commemorate Challenger crew on 30th anniversary of disaster
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG0vIAd6f_Y
>> 
>> So the Moon Landing does not need celebration anymore??
> 
> The presenter starts by connecting the disaster to various attacks.

No, they do not.

> Wasn't the disaster his own sole responsibility?

No, it was not.

> What has those attacks to do with nasa?

As the presenter said, catastrophic events, be they accidents like the 
Challenger disaster or attacks like 9/11, carry special significance as the 
become part of a nation’s, and a species’s, collective memory.

> Anyone can get it?

Yes, but again not you, ’nym-shifting troll.  Or so you pretend to, talking 
to yourself.  *PLONK*


PointedEars
-- 
Q: What did the nuclear physicist order for lunch?  
A: Fission chips.

(from: WolframAlpha)

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#375262

FromHarumi Kazuko <harumik@starwarsmail.org>
Date2016-01-30 21:45 +0000
Message-ID<n8jath$4gj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#375258
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

>> What has those attacks to do with nasa?
> 
> As the presenter said, catastrophic events, be they accidents like the

"be they"?? Try "those", you stupid irrelevant troll.

> Challenger disaster or attacks like 9/11, carry special significance as

You can't exactly put "or" among them. Different categories. It would be 
illegal, undemocratic and against human rights.

> the become part of a nation’s, and a species’s, collective memory.

What memory?

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#375286

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2016-01-31 08:14 +0100
Message-ID<n8kc8d$o5n$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#375262
On 30.01.2016 22:45, Harumi Kazuko wrote:
 > []

It doesn't help to change your name,
the trolling idiot is recognized anyway.

plonk


-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#375251

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2016-01-30 21:55 +0100
Message-ID<2764061.jNeZZSZJ7J@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#375243
The ‘nym-shifting troll posted as "Polikwaptiwa":

> USA: NASA commemorate Challenger crew on 30th anniversary of disaster
                                                               ^^^^^^^^
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG0vIAd6f_Y
> 
> So the Moon Landing does not need celebration anymore??
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^
*PLONK*

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#375264

FromKoobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-30 14:11 -0800
Message-ID<4c3e3a7f-dc7f-4cc3-83fc-47905be3a24a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#375243
On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-8, Polikwaptiwa wrote:

> USA: NASA commemorate Challenger crew on 30th anniversary of disaster 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG0vIAd6f_Y
> 
> So the Moon Landing does not need celebration anymore??

What are the odds?  <shrug>

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2015/04/30/are-the-crew-members-of-1986-space-shuttle-challenger-still-alive/

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#375271

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-01-31 11:34 +1100
Message-ID<dh5345Fl5t4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#375243
On 31/01/2016 5:31 AM, Polikwaptiwa wrote:
> USA: NASA commemorate Challenger crew on 30th anniversary of disaster
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG0vIAd6f_Y

Are they also commemorating the fact that the astronauts were killed by 
managerial incompetence.

Sylvia.

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#375285

FromKoobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-30 22:49 -0800
Message-ID<1c7ddaf8-5e6a-408f-9bf8-396ebf52e676@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#375271
On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 4:34:16 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 31/01/2016 5:31 AM, Polikwaptiwa wrote:

> > USA: NASA commemorate Challenger crew on 30th anniversary of disaster
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG0vIAd6f_Y
> 
> Are they also commemorating the fact that the astronauts were killed by 
> managerial incompetence.

Let's try again.  <shrug>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsNcfMT27FY

It seemed that Feynman was hand-fed with the script back in 1986, no?  <shrug>

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#375287

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2016-01-31 08:39 +0100
Message-ID<n8kdo8$qdi$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#375285
On 31.01.2016 07:49, Koobee Wublee wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsNcfMT27FY
>
> It seemed that Feynman was hand-fed with the script back in 1986, no?  <shrug>
>

I can but wonder ...
Why are so many US citizens so gullible that they
will believe any idiotic conspiracy theory?

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#375296

FromHarumi Kazuko <harumik@starwarsmail.org>
Date2016-01-31 11:15 +0000
Message-ID<n8kqbn$1r33$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#375287
Paul B. Andersen wrote:

> On 31.01.2016 07:49, Koobee Wublee wrote:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsNcfMT27FY
>>
>> It seemed that Feynman was hand-fed with the script back in 1986, no?
>> <shrug>
>
> I can but wonder ... Why are so many US citizens so gullible that they
> will believe any idiotic conspiracy theory?

Name one, you potato farmer. Without stealing natural resources and making 
money out of thin air periodically, you would be the poorest uneducated 
farmer in the entire world.

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#375310

FromKoobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-31 11:48 -0800
Message-ID<c4a414f5-6ddc-4661-8c26-af1a9b452674@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#375287
On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 11:39:54 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> On 31.01.2016 07:49, Koobee Wublee wrote:

> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsNcfMT27FY
> >
> > It seemed that Feynman was hand-fed with the script back in 1986,
> > no?  <shrug>
>
> I can but wonder ...  Why are so many US citizens so gullible that
> they will believe any idiotic conspiracy theory?

Well, how would Paul define what a conspiracy theory is?  If Koobee Wublee understand where Paul is coming from, Copernicus's heliocentric model was a conspiracy theory.  In reality, there is no such thing as conspiracy theories but hypotheses.  According to scientific method, using experiments/observations to validate each hypothesis is the most natural thing to do.  <shrug>

Please calculate the odds that 2 people (totally unrelated born with a year apart) would have the same first and last names that look very much alike within the aging of 30 years, and do that 4 times.  What are the odds that 2 sets of brothers would have brother never to have existed before 1986.  <shrug>

Koobee Wublee merely wants to know the odds and nothing else.  <shrug>

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#375343

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2016-02-01 13:48 +0100
Message-ID<n8nk6c$utn$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#375310
On 31.01.2016 20:48, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 11:39:54 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> On 31.01.2016 07:49, Koobee Wublee wrote:
>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsNcfMT27FY
>>>
>>> It seemed that Feynman was hand-fed with the script back in 1986,
>>> no?  <shrug>
>>
>> I can but wonder ...  Why are so many US citizens so gullible that
>> they will believe any idiotic conspiracy theory?
>
> Well, how would Paul define what a conspiracy theory is?

Why are so many US citizens so gullible and ignorant
that they don't recognize 'conspiracy theories' like
the ones below for what they are?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsNcfMT27FY
http://www.darkgovernment.com/moon.html
http://tinyurl.com/zjfun84
http://tinyurl.com/zv9na46
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc384.htm
http://topinfopost.com/2014/04/15/the-great-hiv-is-a-hoax
+ + +

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#375372

FromKoobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-01 12:38 -0800
Message-ID<782bcb00-baf5-4eec-a465-a3e6c52060f9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#375343
On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 4:48:15 AM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Koobee Wublee wrote:

> > Well, how would Paul define what a conspiracy theory is?  If
> > Koobee Wublee understands where Paul is coming from, Copernicus's
> > heliocentric model was a conspiracy theory.  In reality, there is
> > no such thing as conspiracy theories but hypotheses.  According
> > to scientific method, using experiments/observations to validate
> > each hypothesis is the most natural thing to do.  <shrug>
>
> > Please calculate the odds that 2 people (totally unrelated born
> > with a year apart) would have the same first and last names that
> > look very much alike within the aging of 30 years, and do that 4
> > times.  What are the odds that 2 sets of brothers would have
> > brother never to have existed before 1986.  <shrug>
>
> Why are so many US citizens so gullible and ignorant that they
> don't recognize 'conspiracy theories' like the ones below for
> what they are?
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsNcfMT27FY

For this coincidence to have happened, the odds is lower than a single person able to win 5 megalotteries straight.  That means the odds of this event being another clever hoax is a lot higher.  Koobee Wublee wonders who the gullible ones really are.  They are no more informed or smarter than these characters from Orwell's "1984".  <shrug>

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#375405

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2016-02-02 13:35 +0100
Message-ID<n8q7re$sdo$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#375372
On 01.02.2016 21:38, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 4:48:15 AM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> Koobee Wublee wrote:
>
>>> Well, how would Paul define what a conspiracy theory is?  If
>>> Koobee Wublee understands where Paul is coming from, Copernicus's
>>> heliocentric model was a conspiracy theory.  In reality, there is
>>> no such thing as conspiracy theories but hypotheses.  According
>>> to scientific method, using experiments/observations to validate
>>> each hypothesis is the most natural thing to do.  <shrug>
>>
>>> Please calculate the odds that 2 people (totally unrelated born
>>> with a year apart) would have the same first and last names that
>>> look very much alike within the aging of 30 years, and do that 4
>>> times.  What are the odds that 2 sets of brothers would have
>>> brother never to have existed before 1986.  <shrug>
>>
>> Why are so many US citizens so gullible and ignorant that they
>> don't recognize 'conspiracy theories' like the ones below for
>> what they are?
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsNcfMT27FY
>
> For this coincidence to have happened, the odds is
> lower than a single person able to win 5 megalotteries straight.

What coincidence?
That you among 320 million people can find two
with similar names which have a slight resemblance
to each other if you flip one of the images horizontally?
Compare this original image:
https://media.licdn.com/media/p/6/005/019/20f/3af8c0f.jpg
to the copy in  the video (at 4:10):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsNcfMT27FY

If you look carefully on the pictures, it is obvious why
they flipped it.
Which, BTW, shows that the authors of the video knew they were
cheating. I think the authors of the video have had a great
time laughing at the all the gullible people who have bought
their obvious hoax!

> That means the odds of this event being another clever hoax is a lot higher.
> Koobee Wublee wonders who the gullible ones really are.
> They are no more informed or smarter than these characters from Orwell's "1984".  <shrug>

I note with interest that Koobee Wublee is a prime example
of the gullible people I was talking about. <shrug>

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#375433

FromKoobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-02 14:00 -0800
Message-ID<bbccb9a4-219d-46c6-955d-0255c5d2580f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#375405
On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 4:36:00 AM UTC-8, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Koobee Wublee wrote:

> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsNcfMT27FY

> > Please calculate the odds that 2 people (totally unrelated born
> > with a year apart) would have the same first and last names that
> > look very much alike within the aging of 30 years, and do that 4
> > times.  What are the odds that 2 sets of brothers would have
> > brother never to have existed before 1986.  <shrug>
>
> > For this coincidence to have happened,
>
> What coincidence?

> > the odds is lower than a single person able to win 5
> > megalotteries straight.

<shrug>

> That you among 320 million people can find two with similar names
> which have a slight resemblance to each other if you flip one of
> the images horizontally?

Only in Paul's Cartoon world.  <shrug>

> Compare this original image:
> https://media.licdn.com/media/p/6/005/019/20f/3af8c0f.jpg
> to the copy in  the video (at 4:10):
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsNcfMT27FY

<shrgu>

> If you look carefully on the pictures, it is obvious why
> they flipped it.

Why?  <shrug>

> Which, BTW, shows that the authors of the video knew they were
> cheating. I think the authors of the video have had a great
> time laughing at the all the gullible people who have bought
> their obvious hoax!

The flip side is that if indeed the Challenger disaster was another staged event, they are laughing at Paul for being such gullible.  Job well done.  <shrug>

> > That means the odds of this event being another clever hoax is
> > a lot higher.  Koobee Wublee wonders who the gullible ones
> > really are.  They are no more informed or smarter than these
> > characters from Orwell's "1984".  <shrug>
>
> I note with interest that Koobee Wublee is a prime example
> of the gullible people I was talking about. <shrug>

Well, being gullible is a very slippery slope.  That is why you need to follow scientific methods to find the truth.  So be it if the applied scientific method leads you astray.  You always have to go by the scientific method to have an argument.  For example, remember the platypus must be a bird?  <shrug>

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.relativity/YGofQrGHFW4/6Wzi_XXl3CMJ

<shrug>

With that said, Paul must show the experimental results aka the observations of these people having the same names and looking alike must be wrong.  <shrug>

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#375298

FromHarumi Kazuko <harumik@starwarsmail.org>
Date2016-01-31 11:32 +0000
Message-ID<n8krbh$1rrj$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#375243
Poutnik wrote:

> Dne 30/01/2016 v 22:48 Double-A napsal(a):
>> On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 10:31:30 AM UTC-8, Polikwaptiwa wrote:
>>> USA: NASA commemorate Challenger crew on 30th anniversary of disaster
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG0vIAd6f_Y
>>>
>>> So the Moon Landing does not need celebration anymore??
>> 
>> NASA has had so many failures it's beginning to celebrate them!
> 
> For such stupid comments, you both would deserve the members of
> Challenger crew families  came and punched you hard in your face.

The presenter in that video is linking other unrelated attacks to the 
disaster, the disaster which was entirely his VERY OWN responsibility. Or, 
is he trying suggesting that the Challenger disaster was a terrorist or 
conspiracy attack? What do you think?

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