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| First post | 2016-01-23 12:56 -0800 |
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Milky Way's Kinetic Energy in Our orbiting arm; this motion we share with the larger that is together with us jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-01-23 12:56 -0800
Re: Milky Way's Kinetic Energy in Our orbiting arm; this motion we share with the larger that is together with us jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-05 12:34 -0800
Re: Milky Way's Kinetic Energy in Our orbiting arm; this motion we share with the larger that is together with us shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-05 22:12 +0000
Re: Milky Way's Kinetic Energy in Our orbiting arm; this motion we share with the larger that is together with us John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-05 14:19 -0800
Re: Milky Way's Kinetic Energy in Our orbiting arm; this motion we share with the larger that is together with us shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-05 22:40 +0000
Re: Milky Way's Kinetic Energy in Our orbiting arm; this motion we share with the larger that is together with us jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-05 14:54 -0800
Re: Milky Way's Kinetic Energy in Our orbiting arm; this motion we share with the larger that is together with us Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-06 18:20 +0100
Re: Milky Way's Kinetic Energy in Our orbiting arm; this motion we share with the larger that is together with us jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-06 10:07 -0800
Newtonian gravity vs. general relativity (was: Milky Way's Kinetic Energy in Our orbiting arm; this motion we share with the larger that is together with us) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-06 21:58 +0100
| From | jamesl51165@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-01-23 12:56 -0800 |
| Subject | Milky Way's Kinetic Energy in Our orbiting arm; this motion we share with the larger that is together with us |
| Message-ID | <0b19a301-4445-41ea-afbc-8f71b9fe21c5@googlegroups.com> |
We are orbiting the milky way and that motion gives math slow rate slow math movement increased energy that is part of our body form. These larger movements we still share. Mathematical scientific we start calculating from our largest domain of motion we don't see directly. Our body's domain creates the opposite appearance of things moving backward around you or underneath... The math is Gamma and inverse Gamma factor programing it by speed's we have at more levels we can identify... Your world line is your bodies own primary local motion of itself brought to your entire life. It appears opposite as the Earth moving underneath you... but anyone who won an Olympic race would say they did it. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | jamesl51165@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-02-05 12:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b2644645-2a96-4ac2-990b-e83a92c56d19@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #374737 |
On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 12:56:12 PM UTC-8, james...@gmail.com wrote: > We are orbiting the milky way and that motion gives math slow rate slow > math movement increased energy that is part of our body form. > These larger movements we still share. Mathematical scientific > we start calculating from our largest domain of motion we don't > see directly. Our body's domain creates the opposite appearance of > things moving backward around you or underneath... > > The math is Gamma and inverse Gamma factor programing it by speed's > we have at more levels we can identify... > > Your world line is your bodies own primary local motion of itself > brought to your entire life. > It appears opposite as the Earth moving underneath you... > but anyone who won an Olympic race would say they did it. > > Mitchell Raemsch We are moving from gravity orbit in more than one gravity. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | shan <shan@enterapps.org> |
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| Date | 2016-02-05 22:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n936o4$1u6i$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #375632 |
Użytkownik jamesl51165 napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych: >> have at more levels we can identify... >> >> Your world line is your bodies own primary local motion of itself >> brought to your entire life. >> It appears opposite as the Earth moving underneath you... >> but anyone who won an Olympic race would say they did it. >> >> Mitchell Raemsch > > We are moving from gravity orbit in more than one gravity. No, I challenge you. There is a better solution.
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-05 14:19 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <7b9afa1f-9d49-4323-99a7-deb57522c27d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #375640 |
On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 4:12:24 PM UTC-6, shan wrote: > Użytkownik jamesl51165 napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych: > > >> have at more levels we can identify... > >> > >> Your world line is your bodies own primary local motion of itself > >> brought to your entire life. > >> It appears opposite as the Earth moving underneath you... > >> but anyone who won an Olympic race would say they did it. > >> > >> Mitchell Raemsch > > > > We are moving from gravity orbit in more than one gravity. > > No, I challenge you. There is a better solution. SIZE will almost certainly solve it.
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| From | shan <shan@enterapps.org> |
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| Date | 2016-02-05 22:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n938dp$214$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #375641 |
Użytkownik John Gogo napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych: >> > We are moving from gravity orbit in more than one gravity. >> >> No, I challenge you. There is a better solution. > > SIZE will almost certainly solve it. Size is nothing. I challenge you. When they are pushing particles to smash into each other at the Large Hadron Collider, and when the Chinese will start a Collider even larger than the Large Hadron Collider, The Ultra Large Hadron Collider, what do you think it's happening? (present tense). Well, these things are a transcendental mirror, more you collide at small scale, more, denser and Larger asteroids will collide with planet Terra. This is also what is known as the corruption of the flesh in ancient scriptures. I challenge you.
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| From | jamesl51165@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-02-05 14:54 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f5945526-bcc4-48d8-909c-3729e5cc7937@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #375642 |
> Użytkownik John Gogo napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych: > > >> > We are moving from gravity orbit in more than one gravity. > >> > >> No, I challenge you. There is a better solution. > > > > SIZE will almost certainly solve it. > > Size is nothing. I challenge you. When they are pushing particles to smash > into each other at the Large Hadron Collider, and when the Chinese will > start a Collider even larger than the Large Hadron Collider, The Ultra > Large Hadron Collider, what do you think it's happening? (present tense). > > Well, these things are a transcendental mirror, more you collide at small > scale, more, denser and Larger asteroids will collide with planet Terra. > This is also what is known as the corruption of the flesh in ancient > scriptures. I challenge you. The levels of orbital motion for the Earth are easy to pin point... We orbit the center of the Sun's gravity. We orbit the Milky Way gravity center.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 18:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1568971.bAz1OSRzlI@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #375647 |
jamesl51165@gmail.com wrote: > The levels of orbital motion for the Earth are easy to pin point... > We orbit the center of the Sun's gravity. Gravity is a force (field); it has no center. Terra (Earth) orbits the center of _mass_ of _the Sol System_ (its barycenter; which is close to Sol’s center of mass). > We orbit the Milky Way gravity center. Given that Sol’s mass dominates the Sol System (99.86 % of the Sol System’s total mass comes from that star), it would be only correct to say that Sol or the Sol System orbit the Milky Way barycenter. So do other star systems in the Milky Way. PointedEars -- Q: What did the female magnet say to the male magnet? A: From the back, I found you repulsive, but from the front I find myself very attracted to you. (from: WolframAlpha)
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| From | jamesl51165@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 10:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <06057279-fdd2-471e-b25f-c67ecb2e537f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #375688 |
On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 9:20:18 AM UTC-8, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > > The levels of orbital motion for the Earth are easy to pin point... > > We orbit the center of the Sun's gravity. > Gravity is a force (field); it has no center. So Newton was wrong in his math? When did this happen? They say gravity drops off inward to a zero. If this is true then there is the center of the Earth and it's gravity center. > > Terra (Earth) orbits the center of _mass_ of _the Sol System_ (its > barycenter; which is close to Sol's center of mass). > > > We orbit the Milky Way gravity center. > > Given that Sol's mass dominates the Sol System (99.86 % of the Sol System's > total mass comes from that star), it would be only correct to say that Sol > or the Sol System orbit the Milky Way barycenter. So do other star systems > in the Milky Way. The solar system whole has a center that orbits the center of the milky way. Again Newton is accepted on the account of this truth... Einstein adopted a center of field for his contractile curvature... Mitchell Raemsch > > > PointedEars > -- > Q: What did the female magnet say to the male magnet? > A: From the back, I found you repulsive, but from the front > I find myself very attracted to you. > (from: WolframAlpha)
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 21:58 +0100 |
| Subject | Newtonian gravity vs. general relativity (was: Milky Way's Kinetic Energy in Our orbiting arm; this motion we share with the larger that is together with us) |
| Message-ID | <3706445.zGic31txXG@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #375691 |
jamesl51165@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 9:20:18 AM UTC-8, Thomas 'PointedEars' > Lahn wrote: It’s attribution *line*, _not_ attribution novel. >> > The levels of orbital motion for the Earth are easy to pin point... >> > We orbit the center of the Sun's gravity. > Gravity is a force (field); it has no center. > > So Newton was wrong in his math? He was certainly not quite right, as Einstein, among others, showed. Newton’s theory of gravity works only approximately for objects with non- zero mass, and it does not work at all for photons which have zero mass (we observe that massive bodies are bending light). But it is your invention that Newton said “center of gravity”. > When did this happen? Between the years 1907 and 1919 inclusive. Einstein started work on what he later called “(the) general (theory of) relativity” (GR) after he postulated what he later called “(the) special (theory of) relativity” in 1905. He publicly presented the corrected field equations of GR in 1915, which finally gained widespread laymen acceptance (after being accepted within the scientific community at the latest when Einstein showed that his new theory could very precisely predict Mercury’s perihelion precession – which Newton’s theory could not) with Eddington’s observations related to the solar eclipse of 1919. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_general_relativity> > They say gravity drops off inward to a zero. Who says that about which object? > If this is true then there is the center of the Earth > and it's gravity center. You are confusing terminology here, at best. >> > We orbit the Milky Way gravity center. >> >> Given that Sol's mass dominates the Sol System (99.86 % of the Sol >> System's total mass comes from that star), it would be only correct to >> say that Sol or the Sol System orbit the Milky Way barycenter. So do >> other star systems in the Milky Way. > > The solar system whole has a center that orbits the center of the milky > way. The Sol System has a center _of mass_ that orbits the center _of mass_ of the Milky Way. > Again Newton is accepted on the account of this truth... Nonsense. > Einstein adopted a center of field for his contractile curvature... No, he did not. That a field could have a center is only your invention. And “contractile curvature” is not even wrong. A field is a description of a mathematical space that assigns a value to each point of that space. If the values are vectors, each of which has a direction and a magnitude, then that field is called a vector field. If the value is just a number, then the field is called a scalar field; consider, for example, the temperatures measured across a room. If the value is a tensor… you get the picture. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_(physics)> The gravitational field of Newtonian gravity is a vector field: the gravitational acceleration (and thus the force of gravity) on a test particle (with non-zero mass) has a different direction and magnitude in each point in the vicinity of a point particle (with non-zero mass). IIUC, in GR the gravitational field is described as a tensor field where each point of spacetime is assigned a tensor describing the spacetime curvature at that point corresponding to the energy/mass density, stress, and momentum at that point. Gravity is reduced to a fictional force, and the motion of objects is determined by the curvature of spacetime, and vice-versa, instead. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_potential#General_relativity> Please do not quote signatures, and anything else, unless you refer to them. And get a real name. PointedEars -- Q: What did the nuclear physicist post on the laboratory door when he went camping? A: 'Gone fission'. (from: WolframAlpha)
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