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| Started by | Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-12-22 08:00 -0800 |
| Last post | 2016-01-02 23:48 +0100 |
| Articles | 5 on this page of 25 — 11 participants |
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The Inverse Square Law explained Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 08:00 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-22 10:13 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-22 10:17 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-22 10:19 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-22 12:50 -0600
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained alsor@interia.pl - 2015-12-22 12:14 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 21:11 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained alsor@interia.pl - 2015-12-29 09:18 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 16:06 -0600
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-27 00:42 +0100
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained alsor@interia.pl - 2015-12-27 07:50 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-27 20:12 +0100
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained alsor@interia.pl - 2015-12-27 14:30 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-28 00:23 +0100
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained alsor@interia.pl - 2015-12-27 15:58 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-28 11:59 +0100
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-28 11:18 +0000
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-29 10:11 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-29 13:08 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained alsor@interia.pl - 2015-12-29 15:19 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-29 17:13 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-29 17:16 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained alsor@interia.pl - 2015-12-31 05:31 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-01 18:28 -0800
Re: The Inverse Square Law explained Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-02 23:48 +0100
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| From | David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-29 17:13 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9dc9e798-1787-4718-84d6-1ed47d23ec7a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #372891 |
On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 12:11:51 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote: > yous people are missing a dimension here somewhere.. > > it is not a " Inverse Square Law "... > > it is a cube, that means a square that has 3 dimensions... > > isn't about time yous start calling it a > > > Inverse Cube Law ? Inverse Cube is Magnetism 1/r^3 http://i64.tinypic.com/14dlx6t.jpg
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| From | David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-29 17:16 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9ca67834-567e-40f8-a590-4b7ac6c994d5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #372891 |
On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 12:11:51 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote: > yous people are missing a dimension here somewhere.. > > it is not a " Inverse Square Law "... > > it is a cube, that means a square that has 3 dimensions... > > isn't about time yous start calling it a > > > Inverse Cube Law ? http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/activity/l23.pdf Inverse Cube is Magnetism 1/r^3 http://i64.tinypic.com/14dlx6t.jpg
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| From | alsor@interia.pl |
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| Date | 2015-12-31 05:31 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <a45522d6-295f-44e1-8966-0960f9bcab75@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #372915 |
W dniu środa, 30 grudnia 2015 02:16:28 UTC+1 użytkownik David Fuller napisał: > On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 12:11:51 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote: > > yous people are missing a dimension here somewhere.. > > > > it is not a " Inverse Square Law "... > > > > it is a cube, that means a square that has 3 dimensions... > > > > isn't about time yous start calling it a > > > > > > Inverse Cube Law ? > > http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/activity/l23.pdf > > Inverse Cube is Magnetism > > 1/r^3 > http://i64.tinypic.com/14dlx6t.jpg You cannot use directly an angular deflection to measue the applied force... it's not a linear relation... simply?
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-01 18:28 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <3f8c6d07-9d7a-41bf-8e88-b011203f1738@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #372806 |
On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 5:42:11 PM UTC-6, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Odd Bodkin wrote: > > > On 12/22/2015 10:00 AM, Alan Folmsbee wrote: > >> Inverse Square Law Revealed > >> > >> "Where does the 1/R^2 come from for the inverse square laws of force and > >> acceleration?" > >> > >> The answer... > > > > Doesn't this come directly from Gauss' law? > > It does not, indeed ;-) > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss%27s_law> > > Gauss’s law *for gravity* can be derived from Newton’s law instead. > > However, it can be shown that Newton’s law follows from Gauss’s *theorem*, > also known as [1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divergence_theorem> when > *also* applying Gauss’s law to gravity. > > Conversely, Newton’s law can be derived, *indirectly*, from Gauss’s law > *for gravity* *with additional assumptions*, using Gauss’s/the divergence > *theorem*: > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss%27s_law_for_gravity#Deriving_Newton.27s_law_from_Gauss.27s_law_and_irrotationality> > > But, of course, “[Gauss’s/the divergence] theorem was first discovered by > Lagrange in 1762,[9] then later independently rediscovered by Gauss in 1813, > […]” [↑1]. Newton posited his law of universal gravitation *about 100 years > earlier*, in Book 1, «De motu corporum» (“On the motions of bodies”), of > the «Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica» («Principia») of 1678: > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophi%C3%A6_Naturalis_Principia_Mathematica> > > So neither Gauss’s theorem nor law could have been Newton’s foundation. > It is not known how Newton got the idea of the inverse square law, but the > arguments in the «Principia» (Book Ⅰ, Section Ⅱ), suggest that it were > Kepler’s laws of planetary motion (in «Epitome astronomiae Copernicanae» > „Epitome of Copernican Astronomy”, 1617–1621) – this would not be too > surprising given Newton’s interest in astronomical matters, and that it was > Edmond Halley, later Astronomer Royal, whom he discussed his work with, and > who funded the publication of the «Principia». > > Susskind (see below) argues: > > “The acceleration of circular motion is described by ω² R, where ω is the > angular period of going round in an orbit of radius R. Suppose Newton set > that equal to some unknown force law [that depends on the radius, F(R)], > > ω² R = F(R), > > and divided by R: > > ω² = F(R)∕R. > > For the real case, inverse square law, > > ω² = F(R)∕R = (X∕R²)∕R = X∕R³ > > and in that form it is Kepler’s third law: ‘The square of the orbital > period of a planet is directly proportional to the cube of the semi-major > axis of its orbit.’” > > > That's covered in calculus-based intro physics books for scientists and > > engineers, if I recall correctly. > > It is also covered in physics lectures, such as lecture 1 of the series > “Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity” as taught by Leonard Susskind, > Ph.D., at Stanford University in 2008, from where I took most of the > equations and the argument above. Highly recommended: > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbmf0bB38h0> > > > PointedEars > -- > Q: What did the female magnet say to the male magnet? > A: From the back, I found you repulsive, but from the front > I find myself very attracted to you. > (from: WolframAlpha) Quantify this, what is the relation of the quantity back to front?
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-01-02 23:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1515519.H0zyk4Jolt@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #373109 |
John Gogo wrote: > On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 5:42:11 PM UTC-6, Thomas 'PointedEars' > Lahn wrote: >> -- >> Q: What did the female magnet say to the male magnet? >> A: From the back, I found you repulsive, but from the front >> I find myself very attracted to you. >> (from: WolframAlpha) > > Quantify this, what is the relation of the quantity back to front? One year later, and you still do not understand what a Usenet signature is. PointedEars -- Q: What did the nuclear physicist post on the laboratory door when he went camping? A: 'Gone fission'. (from: WolframAlpha)
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