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| Started by | Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> |
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| First post | 2026-06-06 12:59 +0200 |
| Last post | 2026-07-02 00:09 +0000 |
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Nobody understands relativity Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2026-06-06 12:59 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-06-06 18:07 +0000
Re: Nobody understands relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-06-06 20:19 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2026-06-06 21:23 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-06 16:57 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-06-07 10:54 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2026-06-07 13:13 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 08:25 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 09:06 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 09:21 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 09:50 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 09:59 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 08:46 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-06-09 13:41 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 07:15 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-06-14 05:01 +0000
Re: Nobody understands relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-06-07 13:30 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2026-06-07 13:37 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-06-07 11:40 +0000
Re: Nobody understands relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-06-07 13:58 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-06-08 10:17 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-06-07 21:43 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-06-07 21:48 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-06-08 07:41 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-06-08 09:50 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-06-08 10:46 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-06-08 19:16 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-06-08 19:42 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 16:54 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-06-09 07:34 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-06-09 10:59 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-06-09 11:06 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-06-09 20:22 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-06-09 20:55 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-06-09 21:27 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-06-09 21:37 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-06-09 10:32 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-06-09 11:00 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-06-09 20:56 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-06-09 21:01 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-06-09 21:46 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-06-09 22:03 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 07:10 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 07:22 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 07:31 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 07:40 -0700
Hyperspectral Measurements for Inter-Calibration (Was: Nobody understands relativity) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 10:41 +0200
Re: Hyperspectral Measurements for Inter-Calibration (Was: Nobody understands relativity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 01:45 -0700
Forget your Sputnik Commodore C64 with 8088 (Was: Hyperspectral Measurements for Inter-Calibration) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 11:26 +0200
Forget your Sputnik Commodore C64 with 8088 [Logic Tiling] (Was: Hyperspectral Measurements for Inter-Calibration) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 11:30 +0200
Train yourself to become a nosomatic AI chirurgeon (Re: Forget your Sputnik Commodore C64 with 8088 [Logic Tiling]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 11:37 +0200
Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU (Was: Train yourself to become a nosomatic AI chirurgeon) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 02:05 +0200
Re: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU (Was: Train yourself to become a nosomatic AI chirurgeon) Piotr Agamirov <ppp@togit.ru> - 2026-08-03 12:05 +0000
Johnny Depp prevention [Windows 11 etc...] (Re: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 18:18 +0200
But how can you deploy, when its ROM? (Re: Johnny Depp prevention [Windows 11 etc...]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 18:22 +0200
Re: Johnny Depp prevention [Windows 11 etc...] (Re: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-04 00:45 +0800
Re: Johnny Depp prevention [Windows 11 etc...] (Re: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU) Bayard Djabrailov <yjbob@aodorbv.ru> - 2026-08-03 17:28 +0000
Re: Johnny Depp prevention [Windows 11 etc...] (Re: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-08-07 08:17 +0200
Norton Commander and Norton Antivirus again? [AI Laptop Memory] (Was: Johnny Depp prevention [Windows 11 etc...]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-07 14:13 +0200
New addition to π-WAM is π-WAM Assembly (Re: Johnny Depp prevention [Windows 11 etc...]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-09 19:47 +0200
The future Numa Brains will be gorgeous (Re: Train yourself to become a nosomatic AI chirurgeon) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-25 19:12 +0200
Re: Hyperspectral Measurements for Inter-Calibration (Was: Nobody understands relativity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 07:13 -0700
Brova you enjoy made up nonsense? [Einstein tech cult] (Was: Hyperspectral Measurements for Inter-Calibration) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 17:07 +0200
NVIDIA Einstein and Q8.24 RGB Values [Earth and Star Gazers] (Was: Brova you enjoy made up nonsense? [Einstein tech cult]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 17:30 +0200
Just lookup orbital AI and SpaceX (Re: NVIDIA Einstein and Q8.24 RGB Values) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 17:39 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-06-09 21:05 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 08:39 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-06-10 14:53 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 18:20 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-06-10 20:48 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-12 08:13 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-12 08:42 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-06-10 22:54 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-06-12 13:39 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-14 09:05 -0700
Re: Nobody understands relativity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-06-06 21:24 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-06-07 13:45 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-06-07 15:14 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity Auburn Morandi <bia@auuur.it> - 2026-06-07 15:39 +0000
Re: Nobody understands relativity nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-06-07 10:54 +0200
Re: Nobody understands relativity marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 00:09 +0000
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 19:12 +0200 |
| Subject | The future Numa Brains will be gorgeous (Re: Train yourself to become a nosomatic AI chirurgeon) |
| Message-ID | <1196a2o$cfa0$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #671694 |
Hi, Non-uniform memory access (NUMA) is a computer memory design used in multiprocessing, where the memory access time depends on the memory location relative to the processor. The future Numa Brains will be gorgeous. In like 3-4 years from now, they might have 3.2 TB RAM on a SOC, by not using HBM but HBF: High Bandwidth Flash: What Is It Good For? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nTpW52nioI There might be new profession like nosomatic AI chirurgeon (I made that up): Tiny engine, immense model https://github.com/JustVugg/colibri The Brain page, Explore: the measured expert atlas of GLM-5.2 drawn as a cortex. 13,260 characterised experts in ten regions (Python, SQL, mathematics, poetry, law, Chinese…); position is measured routing affinity, not a learned embedding. We might want a brain to amputate from the Python expert sections, so that we can write code without a slow CPython runtime. Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > A nosomatic AI chirurgeon is a halfling student > of sickness, and a master of the ebb and flow of > the energies of life and death of data packets. > > He is a air bender, water bender and earth bender > in one person, using OpenVINO to juggle with > CPU, GPU and NPU. > > Last but not least he can freely switch between > symbolic and neural representation of knowledge > forms, there is no abyss for him. > > Bye > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> The nature of time has puzzled people -- from the ancient >> Greeks to the present day -- Especially the nosomatic >> perception of time is a hot topic now. >> >> How does time evolve inside a GPU with multiple units >> or a CPU with multiple cores. GPUs even having multiple >> logical threads inside a group. >> >> Forget the von Neumann model of computing. You need >> a total new thinking of shared memory and more >> message passing, and have a grip of vector and >> >> matrix tiling of problems. π-WAM already deploys >> logic tiling in its Seven Eleven demonstrator. So forget >> everything you have learned in your BASIC computer >> >> course for your Sputnik Commodore C64 with 8088. >> >> Bye >
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-27 07:13 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Hyperspectral Measurements for Inter-Calibration (Was: Nobody understands relativity) |
| Message-ID | <MEydnZAfLIzg-vr3nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #671686 |
On 07/27/2026 01:41 AM, Mild Shock wrote: > Hi, > > Hyperspectral measurements for inter-calibration, > reached a significant milestone this summer. > > The naval observatory only uses fidget spinners > to measure time, so forget Colorado. > > Bye > > Ross Finlayson schrieb: >> >> So, there's at least three accounts of what can define "measurement of >> time", in the micro, meso, and macro. >> >> Then these days pretty much the world relies on "the naval observatory >> in Colorado" if not so much "the clock tower in Greenwich", as with >> regards to ye olde UTC, CUT, "Zulu", and so on, time. >> >> About relativity theory and "measuring rods and clocks", then, it's >> similar that "metric and norm" for "length and distance" also has >> about the Planckian what are "iota-values" as it would be, or, "Pauli >> Plancks", or "Dirac's Pauli Plancks", of measuring space, vis-a-vis, >> measuring time. >> >> >> So, there are at least three accounts of what defines measuring time, >> and at least three accounts of what defines measuring space. >> >> >> Then, since relativity theory is defined by what does that, >> it has the various ways, to so fulfill doing that. >> >> >> Yeah, I know, most "professional physicists" only have one of those >> on their little note-card with which they passed graduate school. >> >> > Well, like Einstein says, relativity is defined by at least two different clocks - might as well be three. That's a good quote, I quote me on that.
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2026-07-27 17:07 +0200 |
| Subject | Brova you enjoy made up nonsense? [Einstein tech cult] (Was: Hyperspectral Measurements for Inter-Calibration) |
| Message-ID | <1147s6m$gebq$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #671698 |
Hi, You refuse to undertand the NVIDIA Volta archecture. You claim to like in the sense of "That's a good quote" some completely made up nonsense? Bravo! I just copied a nasa article title, which had nothing to do with "time" per se: CLARREO Pathfinder https://science.nasa.gov/mission/clarreo-pathfinder/ Its more a very big vacuum cleaner, that can scan highly accurate measurements of sunlight reflected by the Earth and the Moon. You are just a moron, that still feels harware evelution a treat, but would like to see data from a Einstein pathfinder. As if this is not the ultimate tech cult? As always you suck, like nobody else ever sucked on the usenet. You are just completely bonkers, the bigger crank than Archimedes Plutonion and John Gabriel. Bye Ross Finlayson schrieb: > On 07/27/2026 01:41 AM, Mild Shock wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Hyperspectral measurements for inter-calibration, >> reached a significant milestone this summer. >> >> The naval observatory only uses fidget spinners >> to measure time, so forget Colorado. >> >> Bye >> >> Ross Finlayson schrieb: >>> >>> So, there's at least three accounts of what can define "measurement of >>> time", in the micro, meso, and macro. >>> >>> Then these days pretty much the world relies on "the naval observatory >>> in Colorado" if not so much "the clock tower in Greenwich", as with >>> regards to ye olde UTC, CUT, "Zulu", and so on, time. >>> >>> About relativity theory and "measuring rods and clocks", then, it's >>> similar that "metric and norm" for "length and distance" also has >>> about the Planckian what are "iota-values" as it would be, or, "Pauli >>> Plancks", or "Dirac's Pauli Plancks", of measuring space, vis-a-vis, >>> measuring time. >>> >>> >>> So, there are at least three accounts of what defines measuring time, >>> and at least three accounts of what defines measuring space. >>> >>> >>> Then, since relativity theory is defined by what does that, >>> it has the various ways, to so fulfill doing that. >>> >>> >>> Yeah, I know, most "professional physicists" only have one of those >>> on their little note-card with which they passed graduate school. >>> >>> >> > > > Well, like Einstein says, relativity is defined > by at least two different clocks - > might as well be three. > > > > That's a good quote, I quote me on that. > >
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2026-07-27 17:30 +0200 |
| Subject | NVIDIA Einstein and Q8.24 RGB Values [Earth and Star Gazers] (Was: Brova you enjoy made up nonsense? [Einstein tech cult]) |
| Message-ID | <1147tiu$gfer$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #671701 |
Him BTW, NVIDIA hat a GPU card named Einstein and an Einstein project. I guess these earth and star gazers would like to number crunch images with Q8.24 RGB values. Now Einstain name was adopted for another GPU Project: We had a number of tutorials on CarpetX and science codes based on CarpetX, the new, GPU-enabled version of the Einstein Toolkit. https://einsteintoolkit.org/ The results show excellent agreement with the well-established LazEv code. Scaling tests on CPU (Frontera) and GPU (Vista) clusters reveal significant performance gains, with the new implementation achieving improved speed and scalability compared to the Carpet-based version. GPU-accelerated Subcycling Time Integration with the Einstein Toolkit https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.09629 GPUs were traditionally used by earth and star gazers early on, because they can speed up the scanning of large areas, also in 4 dimensions, i.e. space and time. Have Fun! Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > You refuse to undertand the NVIDIA Volta > archecture. You claim to like in the > sense of "That's a good quote" some > > completely made up nonsense? Bravo! I just > copied a nasa article title, which had nothing > to do with "time" per se: > > CLARREO Pathfinder > https://science.nasa.gov/mission/clarreo-pathfinder/ > > Its more a very big vacuum cleaner, that can > scan highly accurate measurements of sunlight > reflected by the Earth and the Moon. > > You are just a moron, that still feels harware > evelution a treat, but would like to see data > from a Einstein pathfinder. As if this > > is not the ultimate tech cult? > > As always you suck, like nobody else ever > sucked on the usenet. You are just completely > bonkers, the bigger crank than Archimedes > > Plutonion and John Gabriel. > > Bye > > Ross Finlayson schrieb: >> On 07/27/2026 01:41 AM, Mild Shock wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Hyperspectral measurements for inter-calibration, >>> reached a significant milestone this summer. >>> >>> The naval observatory only uses fidget spinners >>> to measure time, so forget Colorado. >>> >>> Bye >>> >>> Ross Finlayson schrieb: >>>> >>>> So, there's at least three accounts of what can define "measurement of >>>> time", in the micro, meso, and macro. >>>> >>>> Then these days pretty much the world relies on "the naval observatory >>>> in Colorado" if not so much "the clock tower in Greenwich", as with >>>> regards to ye olde UTC, CUT, "Zulu", and so on, time. >>>> >>>> About relativity theory and "measuring rods and clocks", then, it's >>>> similar that "metric and norm" for "length and distance" also has >>>> about the Planckian what are "iota-values" as it would be, or, "Pauli >>>> Plancks", or "Dirac's Pauli Plancks", of measuring space, vis-a-vis, >>>> measuring time. >>>> >>>> >>>> So, there are at least three accounts of what defines measuring time, >>>> and at least three accounts of what defines measuring space. >>>> >>>> >>>> Then, since relativity theory is defined by what does that, >>>> it has the various ways, to so fulfill doing that. >>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, I know, most "professional physicists" only have one of those >>>> on their little note-card with which they passed graduate school. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> Well, like Einstein says, relativity is defined >> by at least two different clocks - >> might as well be three. >> >> >> >> That's a good quote, I quote me on that. >> >> >
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2026-07-27 17:39 +0200 |
| Subject | Just lookup orbital AI and SpaceX (Re: NVIDIA Einstein and Q8.24 RGB Values) |
| Message-ID | <1147u4d$gfr1$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #671703 |
Hi, "Space-based data centers or orbital AI infrastructure are proposed concepts to build AI data centers in the sun-synchronous orbit or other orbits using space- based solar power. Space-based edge computing has historical roots in military architectures designed to bypass the latency of ground-based targeting networks." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_data_center Just to give you an idea. Translated to the Einstein pathfinders. If the sensors are in space, why not do the bulk processing already in space? Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Him > > BTW, NVIDIA hat a GPU card named Einstein and > an Einstein project. I guess these earth > and star gazers would like to number crunch > > images with Q8.24 RGB values. Now Einstain > name was adopted for another GPU Project: > > We had a number of tutorials on CarpetX > and science codes based on CarpetX, the new, > GPU-enabled version of the Einstein Toolkit. > https://einsteintoolkit.org/ > > The results show excellent agreement with > the well-established LazEv code. Scaling > tests on CPU (Frontera) and GPU (Vista) > clusters reveal significant performance > > gains, with the new implementation achieving > improved speed and scalability compared > to the Carpet-based version. > GPU-accelerated Subcycling Time > Integration with the Einstein Toolkit > https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.09629 > > GPUs were traditionally used by earth and > star gazers early on, because they can > speed up the scanning of large areas, > > also in 4 dimensions, i.e. space and time. > > Have Fun! > > Bye > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> You refuse to undertand the NVIDIA Volta >> archecture. You claim to like in the >> sense of "That's a good quote" some >> >> completely made up nonsense? Bravo! I just >> copied a nasa article title, which had nothing >> to do with "time" per se: >> >> CLARREO Pathfinder >> https://science.nasa.gov/mission/clarreo-pathfinder/ >> >> Its more a very big vacuum cleaner, that can >> scan highly accurate measurements of sunlight >> reflected by the Earth and the Moon. >> >> You are just a moron, that still feels harware >> evelution a treat, but would like to see data >> from a Einstein pathfinder. As if this >> >> is not the ultimate tech cult? >> >> As always you suck, like nobody else ever >> sucked on the usenet. You are just completely >> bonkers, the bigger crank than Archimedes >> >> Plutonion and John Gabriel. >> >> Bye
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| From | "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> |
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| Date | 2026-06-09 21:05 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1109npe$76mb$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #671147 |
Den 09.06.2026 16:10, skrev Ross Finlayson: > > So, another way to identify a metrology of time is "quasars" > instead of "hyper-fine transitions of the cesium atom, > in a museum in France". > > :-D -- Paul https://paulba.no/
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 08:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <J6KcnZPfV6_dGLT3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #671156 |
On 06/09/2026 12:05 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > Den 09.06.2026 16:10, skrev Ross Finlayson: >> >> So, another way to identify a metrology of time is "quasars" >> instead of "hyper-fine transitions of the cesium atom, >> in a museum in France". >> >> > > :-D > Thanks for writing. I'm curious how to interpret the smiley, usually enough it's a reaction of spontaneous happiness, yet in some regards it's as like the monkey's grimace that's usually aggression or fear. Then, the idea that there are "collective clocks" and that for time there are independent metrologies of time as about the atomic clock, the synchroton clock, and the quasar clock, that would advise a lot of the context about "the clock hypothesis", and also the role of clocks with rigid measuring rods of length, for the metrology (the science of measurement) of space, the metrologies, a metrology.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 14:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6A29DCBE.3B20@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #671165 |
Ross Finlayson wrote: > > On 06/09/2026 12:05 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > > Den 09.06.2026 16:10, skrev Ross Finlayson: > >> > >> So, another way to identify a metrology of time is "quasars" > >> instead of "hyper-fine transitions of the cesium atom, > >> in a museum in France". > >> > >> > > > > :-D > > > > Thanks for writing. > > I'm curious how to interpret the smiley, usually enough it's > a reaction of spontaneous happiness, yet in some regards it's > as like the monkey's grimace that's usually aggression or fear. > > Then, the idea that there are "collective clocks" and that for > time there are independent metrologies of time as about > > the atomic clock, > the synchroton clock, > and the quasar clock, and the biological clock...It's LOGICAL!!! bio wise. it's ticks. it's tocks. a pretty girl on a hot stove ..is relativity. > > that would advise a lot of the context about "the clock hypothesis", > and also the role of clocks with rigid measuring rods of length, > for the metrology (the science of measurement) of space, > the metrologies, a metrology. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 18:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <C5mcnTjTDYfLkLf3nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #671172 |
On 06/10/2026 02:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Ross Finlayson wrote: >> >> On 06/09/2026 12:05 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: >>> Den 09.06.2026 16:10, skrev Ross Finlayson: >>>> >>>> So, another way to identify a metrology of time is "quasars" >>>> instead of "hyper-fine transitions of the cesium atom, >>>> in a museum in France". >>>> >>>> >>> >>> :-D >>> >> >> Thanks for writing. >> >> I'm curious how to interpret the smiley, usually enough it's >> a reaction of spontaneous happiness, yet in some regards it's >> as like the monkey's grimace that's usually aggression or fear. >> >> Then, the idea that there are "collective clocks" and that for >> time there are independent metrologies of time as about >> >> the atomic clock, >> the synchroton clock, >> and the quasar clock, > > and the biological clock...It's LOGICAL!!! bio wise. > > it's ticks. > it's tocks. > > a pretty girl on a hot stove ..is relativity. > > > >> >> that would advise a lot of the context about "the clock hypothesis", >> and also the role of clocks with rigid measuring rods of length, >> for the metrology (the science of measurement) of space, >> the metrologies, a metrology. > Shut up StarMaker, you never said any decent damn thing about science. Trite trollop, ....
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 20:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6A2A2FF9.6313@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #671173 |
Ross Finlayson wrote: > > On 06/10/2026 02:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Ross Finlayson wrote: > >> > >> On 06/09/2026 12:05 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > >>> Den 09.06.2026 16:10, skrev Ross Finlayson: > >>>> > >>>> So, another way to identify a metrology of time is "quasars" > >>>> instead of "hyper-fine transitions of the cesium atom, > >>>> in a museum in France". > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> :-D > >>> > >> > >> Thanks for writing. > >> > >> I'm curious how to interpret the smiley, usually enough it's > >> a reaction of spontaneous happiness, yet in some regards it's > >> as like the monkey's grimace that's usually aggression or fear. > >> > >> Then, the idea that there are "collective clocks" and that for > >> time there are independent metrologies of time as about > >> > >> the atomic clock, > >> the synchroton clock, > >> and the quasar clock, > > > > and the biological clock...It's LOGICAL!!! bio wise. > > > > it's ticks. > > it's tocks. > > > > a pretty girl on a hot stove ..is relativity. > > > > > > > >> > >> that would advise a lot of the context about "the clock hypothesis", > >> and also the role of clocks with rigid measuring rods of length, > >> for the metrology (the science of measurement) of space, > >> the metrologies, a metrology. > > > > Shut up StarMaker, you never said any decent damn thing about science. > > Trite trollop, .... "decent"???? I don't belong to the majority of yous groups of lemmings. I would not want to be a member of a club that would have me... i take the road less ...traveled. "trollop"???? https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+trollop historically used to describe a woman perceived as sexually promiscuous like YOUR MOTHER. yo mamma. hoe your mother sucks elephant cocks. So, your father sends your mother out to the streets to make some money... she comes back and sez I made twenty dollars and ten cents! Your father ask her "Who gave you ten cents?" Your mother said..."EVERYBODY!" -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-12 08:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <RpudnWu8G_63v7H3nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #671174 |
On 06/10/2026 08:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Ross Finlayson wrote: >> >> On 06/10/2026 02:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>> >>>> On 06/09/2026 12:05 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: >>>>> Den 09.06.2026 16:10, skrev Ross Finlayson: >>>>>> >>>>>> So, another way to identify a metrology of time is "quasars" >>>>>> instead of "hyper-fine transitions of the cesium atom, >>>>>> in a museum in France". >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> :-D >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for writing. >>>> >>>> I'm curious how to interpret the smiley, usually enough it's >>>> a reaction of spontaneous happiness, yet in some regards it's >>>> as like the monkey's grimace that's usually aggression or fear. >>>> >>>> Then, the idea that there are "collective clocks" and that for >>>> time there are independent metrologies of time as about >>>> >>>> the atomic clock, >>>> the synchroton clock, >>>> and the quasar clock, >>> >>> and the biological clock...It's LOGICAL!!! bio wise. >>> >>> it's ticks. >>> it's tocks. >>> >>> a pretty girl on a hot stove ..is relativity. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> that would advise a lot of the context about "the clock hypothesis", >>>> and also the role of clocks with rigid measuring rods of length, >>>> for the metrology (the science of measurement) of space, >>>> the metrologies, a metrology. >>> >> >> Shut up StarMaker, you never said any decent damn thing about science. >> >> Trite trollop, .... > > "decent"???? I don't belong to the majority of yous groups of lemmings. > > > I would not want to be a member of a club that would have me... > > > i take the road less ...traveled. > > > "trollop"???? > > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+trollop > > historically used to describe a woman perceived as sexually promiscuous > > like YOUR MOTHER. > > yo mamma. > > > hoe > > your mother sucks elephant cocks. > > So, your father sends your mother out to the streets to make some money... > she comes back and sez I made twenty dollars and ten cents! > > Your father ask her "Who gave you ten cents?" > > Your mother said..."EVERYBODY!" > > > Rude. And old.
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-12 08:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <OMKdnX_1uplKtbH3nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #671186 |
On 06/12/2026 08:13 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 06/10/2026 08:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >> Ross Finlayson wrote: >>> >>> On 06/10/2026 02:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 06/09/2026 12:05 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: >>>>>> Den 09.06.2026 16:10, skrev Ross Finlayson: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, another way to identify a metrology of time is "quasars" >>>>>>> instead of "hyper-fine transitions of the cesium atom, >>>>>>> in a museum in France". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> :-D >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for writing. >>>>> >>>>> I'm curious how to interpret the smiley, usually enough it's >>>>> a reaction of spontaneous happiness, yet in some regards it's >>>>> as like the monkey's grimace that's usually aggression or fear. >>>>> >>>>> Then, the idea that there are "collective clocks" and that for >>>>> time there are independent metrologies of time as about >>>>> >>>>> the atomic clock, >>>>> the synchroton clock, >>>>> and the quasar clock, >>>> >>>> and the biological clock...It's LOGICAL!!! bio wise. >>>> >>>> it's ticks. >>>> it's tocks. >>>> >>>> a pretty girl on a hot stove ..is relativity. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> that would advise a lot of the context about "the clock hypothesis", >>>>> and also the role of clocks with rigid measuring rods of length, >>>>> for the metrology (the science of measurement) of space, >>>>> the metrologies, a metrology. >>>> >>> >>> Shut up StarMaker, you never said any decent damn thing about science. >>> >>> Trite trollop, .... >> >> "decent"???? I don't belong to the majority of yous groups of lemmings. >> >> >> I would not want to be a member of a club that would have me... >> >> >> i take the road less ...traveled. >> >> >> "trollop"???? >> >> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+trollop >> >> historically used to describe a woman perceived as sexually promiscuous >> >> like YOUR MOTHER. >> >> yo mamma. >> >> >> hoe >> >> your mother sucks elephant cocks. >> >> So, your father sends your mother out to the streets to make some >> money... >> she comes back and sez I made twenty dollars and ten cents! >> >> Your father ask her "Who gave you ten cents?" >> >> Your mother said..."EVERYBODY!" >> >> >> > > Rude. And old. > > The other day somewhere we were having a conversation about "trash-talk", or variously "the burn". I came up with this. "You're going to lose so bad, you're going to wish you had won." "That trash-talk is weak." "Worked on you."
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 22:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6A2A4DA9.4034@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #671173 |
Ross Finlayson wrote: > > On 06/10/2026 02:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Ross Finlayson wrote: > >> > >> On 06/09/2026 12:05 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > >>> Den 09.06.2026 16:10, skrev Ross Finlayson: > >>>> > >>>> So, another way to identify a metrology of time is "quasars" > >>>> instead of "hyper-fine transitions of the cesium atom, > >>>> in a museum in France". > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> :-D > >>> > >> > >> Thanks for writing. > >> > >> I'm curious how to interpret the smiley, usually enough it's > >> a reaction of spontaneous happiness, yet in some regards it's > >> as like the monkey's grimace that's usually aggression or fear. > >> > >> Then, the idea that there are "collective clocks" and that for > >> time there are independent metrologies of time as about > >> > >> the atomic clock, > >> the synchroton clock, > >> and the quasar clock, > > > > and the biological clock...It's LOGICAL!!! bio wise. > > > > it's ticks. > > it's tocks. > > > > a pretty girl on a hot stove ..is relativity. > > > > > > > >> > >> that would advise a lot of the context about "the clock hypothesis", > >> and also the role of clocks with rigid measuring rods of length, > >> for the metrology (the science of measurement) of space, > >> the metrologies, a metrology. > > > > Shut up StarMaker, you never said any decent damn thing about science. > > Trite trollop, .... Here's mt ten cents... you put 3 atomic clocks in a room and calibrate them to the same time..that isn't independent metrologies of time, it's dependent. best ten cents i ever spent. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-12 13:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6A2C6E91.4D7@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #671172 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Ross Finlayson wrote: > > > > On 06/09/2026 12:05 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > > > Den 09.06.2026 16:10, skrev Ross Finlayson: > > >> > > >> So, another way to identify a metrology of time is "quasars" > > >> instead of "hyper-fine transitions of the cesium atom, > > >> in a museum in France". > > >> > > >> > > > > > > :-D > > > > > > > Thanks for writing. > > > > I'm curious how to interpret the smiley, usually enough it's > > a reaction of spontaneous happiness, yet in some regards it's > > as like the monkey's grimace that's usually aggression or fear. > > > > Then, the idea that there are "collective clocks" and that for > > time there are independent metrologies of time as about > > > > the atomic clock, > > the synchroton clock, > > and the quasar clock, > > and the biological clock...It's LOGICAL!!! bio wise. > > it's ticks. > it's tocks. > > a pretty girl on a hot stove ..is relativity. > furthermore... Einstein used a bilogical clock when he measured Time with...feelings. "If you sit on a pretty girl's lap for an hour, it seems like a minute. If you sit on a hot stove for a minute, it seems like an hour. That's Relativity" -Albert Einstein The operative word is "seems". There is no clock that exist which reads a minute as an hour, or an hour as a minute. So, Albert Einstein must be using a different type of clock... a body clock. a biologial clock a clock that exist only in his mind. dummy. Here's my ten cents i forgot to give to your mother. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-14 09:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lRqdnQ5JSbeCTLP3nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #671190 |
On 06/12/2026 01:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> Ross Finlayson wrote: >>> >>> On 06/09/2026 12:05 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: >>>> Den 09.06.2026 16:10, skrev Ross Finlayson: >>>>> >>>>> So, another way to identify a metrology of time is "quasars" >>>>> instead of "hyper-fine transitions of the cesium atom, >>>>> in a museum in France". >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> :-D >>>> >>> >>> Thanks for writing. >>> >>> I'm curious how to interpret the smiley, usually enough it's >>> a reaction of spontaneous happiness, yet in some regards it's >>> as like the monkey's grimace that's usually aggression or fear. >>> >>> Then, the idea that there are "collective clocks" and that for >>> time there are independent metrologies of time as about >>> >>> the atomic clock, >>> the synchroton clock, >>> and the quasar clock, >> >> and the biological clock...It's LOGICAL!!! bio wise. >> >> it's ticks. >> it's tocks. >> >> a pretty girl on a hot stove ..is relativity. >> > > furthermore... > > Einstein used a bilogical clock when he measured Time with...feelings. > > "If you sit on a pretty girl's lap for an hour, it seems like a minute. > If you sit on a hot stove for a minute, it seems like an hour. That's > Relativity" -Albert Einstein > > > The operative word is "seems". > > > There is no clock that exist > which reads a minute as an hour, or > an hour as a minute. > > So, Albert Einstein must be > using a different type of clock... > > a body clock. > a biologial clock > a clock that exist only in his mind. > > dummy. > > Here's my ten cents i forgot to give to your mother. > > > > > > "Relativity Theory" has been around since the Galilean and before that the Mertonian School, or about six hundred years ago. Low-class doesn't make up for low-talent, in fact sort of the opposite. Lots of people understand relativity theory, for example Einstein's with "no absolute, ..., motion". Lots of people don't and their opinions are worth less than your two cents.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2026-06-06 21:24 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <18b69465262e963a$1$2127$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #671090 |
On 6/6/2026 8:19 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > ..are horribly wrong! > > They can only be stated by a person who hasn't understood > this obvious fact: > > The state of motion of an observer cannot affect the observed > object in any way, but it can affect the observer's observations > of the observed object. > > An observer who is moving relative to an object will > measure the object to be shorter that its proper length. IQ-test: An observer is measuring something that is not really happening. The measurement is: a)correct b)invalid a or b, poor brainless religious maniac?
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| From | "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> |
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| Date | 2026-06-07 13:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1103l82$2fj1p$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #671092 |
Den 06.06.2026 21:24, skrev Maciej Woźniak: > On 6/6/2026 8:19 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: >> >> The state of motion of an observer cannot affect the observed >> object in any way, but it can affect the observer's observations >> of the observed object. >> This is what Maciej Woźniak thinks is a sensible response to the above: > > IQ-test: > An observer is measuring something that is > not really happening. > The measurement is: > a)correct > b)invalid > > a or b, poor brainless religious maniac? > I think the poor brainless religious maniac has an IQ < 80. :-D -- Paul https://paulba.no/
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2026-06-07 15:14 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <18b6cecbcb86ad44$1$2346$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #671102 |
On 6/7/2026 1:45 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > Den 06.06.2026 21:24, skrev Maciej Woźniak: >> On 6/6/2026 8:19 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: >>> >>> The state of motion of an observer cannot affect the observed >>> object in any way, but it can affect the observer's observations >>> of the observed object. >>> > > This is what Maciej Woźniak thinks is > a sensible response to the above: > >> >> IQ-test: >> An observer is measuring something that is >> not really happening. >> The measurement is: >> a)correct >> b)invalid >> >> a or b, poor brainless religious maniac? >> > > I think the poor brainless religious maniac has an IQ < 80. I totally agree. So, a or b, poor brainless religious maniac?
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| From | Auburn Morandi <bia@auuur.it> |
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| Date | 2026-06-07 15:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11043bb$2jp4r$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #671105 |
Maciej Woźniak wrote: > On 6/7/2026 1:45 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: >> I think the poor brainless religious maniac has an IQ < 80. > > I totally agree. > So, a or b, poor brainless religious maniac? forget that; the west europe always thinks that you guys from east are about an IQ of 80. It's a fact written in west statistics. Take a look at those 4 to 6 millions ukrans fools, dead for the nato west. No difference. The polaks and the ukrans are the same. You may cry uncle all the way to the bank, you cant change facts it was a good period with a country and communism, and Jaruzelsky there, a wonderful human being. That period is over. Now you are braindead 80 IQ slaves, dying for the nato west do i have to say more?
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2026-06-07 10:54 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1rwbu68.u8bz0j1cwjnhN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #671087 |
Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote: [snip nonsense, to put it charitably] > To put it charitably... As for relativity, there is nothing to understand. It is a postulate, it is what it is, Jan
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