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The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]

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  The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-22 21:00 +0200
    Deadlock Exorcism: Switch from Push to Pull [A pi-calculus Specification of Prolog] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 00:23 +0200
      Why do you even need a mpmc queue? [Thunder Kittens] (Re: Deadlock Exorcism: Switch from Push to Pull) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 08:43 +0200
        Trivial balancing example for (int i=0; i<global_id; i++) (Re: Why do you even need a mpmc queue? [Thunder Kittens]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 08:57 +0200
          Enqueue/dequeue need not be fast and can spinn ["fairness" questions] (Was: Trivial balancing example for (int i=0; i<global_id; i++)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 09:11 +0200
            The Pixel Phone AI Experiment Song (Re: Enqueue/dequeue need not be fast and can spinn ["fairness" questions] ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 09:21 +0200
        Re: Why do you even need a mpmc queue? [Thunder Kittens] (Re: Deadlock Exorcism: Switch from Push to Pull) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-23 08:24 -0700
    Potential Python Recovery: Free Threading [3.13 release] (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 10:19 +0200
      Re: Potential Python Recovery: Free Threading [3.13 release] (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Ross Valikhanov <kavna@rl.ru> - 2026-07-23 16:01 +0000
    Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto] Ramon Dubenkov <omd@nnk.ru> - 2026-07-23 13:38 +0000
    The things XILINX braught to the AMD table (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 18:47 +0200
      NIVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling] (Was: The things XILINX braught to the AMD table) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 19:11 +0200
      NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling] (Re: The things XILINX braught to the AMD table) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 19:12 +0200
        Re: NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling] (Re: The things XILINX braught to the AMD table) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-23 11:22 -0600
          Micro penis mother sung arias (Was: NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 14:38 +0200
            Re: Micro penis mother sung arias (Was: NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling]) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-24 07:15 -0600
              Micro penis brain is in constant hiatus (Was: Micro penis mother sung arias) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 15:24 +0200
                Re: Micro penis brain is in constant hiatus (Was: Micro penis mother sung arias) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 15:36 +0200
                Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM) (Re: Micro penis brain is in constant hiatus) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 15:38 +0200
                  Re: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM) (Re: Micro penis brain is in constant hiatus) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-24 08:31 -0600
                    You are a moron, brainless putin payed (Was: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 18:01 +0200
                      Re: You are a moron, brainless putin payed (Was: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM)) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-24 10:27 -0600
                        Yeah keep reading my posts, uninspired fool (Was: You are a moron, brainless putin payed) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 19:45 +0200
                          Re: Yeah keep reading my posts, uninspired fool (Was: You are a moron, brainless putin payed) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-24 12:11 -0600
                            LoL (Was: Yeah keep reading my posts, uninspired fool ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 20:12 +0200
                              Re: LoL (Was: Yeah keep reading my posts, uninspired fool ) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-24 12:53 -0600
                  Out of the blue accusation span 15 days [Empirical USENET study] (Was: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 20:26 +0200
                  A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy] (Re: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:40 +0200
                    Re: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy] (Re: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM)) Mantra Mahonov <hnaam@aat.ru> - 2026-07-29 21:15 +0000
                      I didn't use a Ryzen Halo, whats wrong with you? (Was: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:24 +0200
                    Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month (Was: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 00:06 +0200
                      Re: Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month (Was: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy]) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-03 13:16 -0600
                        Re: Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month (Was: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy]) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 12:54 -0700
                          No you didn't try, you only spammed old code (Was: Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 22:15 +0200
                    Food for thought: Bayesian Experimental Designer (Was: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-24 15:47 +0200
        ASML stocks are plunging, bye bye dutchies (Was: NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-28 14:17 +0200
    Little Data Center on Your Palm [AI Laptops for 500 USD] (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 17:58 +0200
      2008: 4 Blades + Tesla S1070 versus 2026: 1 AI Laptop (Re: Little Data Center on Your Palm [AI Laptops for 500 USD]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 18:16 +0200
      Re: Little Data Center on Your Palm [AI Laptops for 500 USD] (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto] Bradford Babkoff <ffb@odbb.ru> - 2026-07-24 18:05 +0000
        LoL (Was: Little Data Center on Your Palm [AI Laptops for 500 USD]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 20:11 +0200
      Budget AI Laptop 2026 versus Cray T3D 1995 (Re: Little Data Center on Your Palm [AI Laptops for 500 USD]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-05 14:23 +0200
        Re: Budget AI Laptop 2026 versus Cray T3D 1995 (Re: Little Data Center on Your Palm [AI Laptops for 500 USD]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:16 -0700
    Hurry the blue bus doesnt stop indefinitely (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 20:36 +0200
      Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta (Re: Hurry the blue bus doesnt stop indefinitely) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 20:57 +0200
        Could take 3-4 months find machine / browser (Was Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 21:15 +0200
        The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S] (Was: Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-26 19:52 +0200
          The turbo capping of AI Laptops (Re: The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-26 20:01 +0200
          Re: The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S] (Was: Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 20:33 -0700
            Why forget Bulgarians, never on my mind (Re: The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S] (Was: Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 09:14 +0200
              miniTriton CUDA is an alternative to torch variants (Was: Why forget Bulgarians, never on my mind) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 09:40 +0200
                Andrej Karpathy original gangster of Budget Laptop (Was: miniTriton CUDA is an alternative to torch variants) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 09:51 +0200
                  Re: Andrej Karpathy original gangster of Budget Laptop (Was: miniTriton CUDA is an alternative to torch variants) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 01:41 -0700
              Re: Why forget Bulgarians, never on my mind (Re: The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S] (Was: Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 01:38 -0700
              The evolution of hardware and GPT-2 training (Was: Why forget Bulgarians, never on my mind) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 10:56 +0200
                How speed up π-WAM with vector operations (Was: The evolution of hardware and GPT-2 training) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 11:08 +0200
                  AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying] (Was: How speed up π-WAM with vector operations) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 11:21 +0200
                    The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta] (Was: AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 13:20 +0200
                      Maybe they should have named it NVIDIA Einstein [Rossy Boy Toe Sucking] (Re: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta] (Was: AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 17:14 +0200
                      π-WAM is not adding decimals, it is removing decimals (Re: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 18:36 +0200
                        In Budget Laptops the TOPS come with low energy footprint (Was: π-WAM is not adding decimals, it is removing decimals) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 18:44 +0200
          Java picky concerning JIT-ing [Luckier with C++/C or FORTRAN compilers?] (Re: The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 12:55 +0200
      Potato Computer owner impressed by Ukraine Tech [Rossy Boys Brother?] (Re: Hurry the blue bus doesnt stop indefinitely) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 16:57 +0200
      The Paul Armer Square Revisited (Was: "Mathematics in the Age of AI") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-19 23:51 +0200
        Communism will Save Us! [Pivot Russia for China] (Re: The Paul Armer Square Revisited) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-20 13:18 +0200
          How to increase your "Convincingness" [Anthropic AI Text Hacked] (Re: Communism will Save Us! [Pivot Russia for China]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-20 19:35 +0200
            Free Speech for (my) Robots [Kristallnaach BAP] (Re: How to increase your "Convincingness" [Anthropic AI Text Hacked]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-20 19:48 +0200
              Re: Free Speech for (my) Robots [Kristallnaach BAP] (Re: How to increase your "Convincingness" [Anthropic AI Text Hacked]) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-20 11:52 -0600
      The Bazar is dead, long live the Bazar [Swarm AI] (Re: Hurry the blue bus doesnt stop indefinitely) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-21 11:30 +0200
        Re: The Bazar is dead, long live the Bazar [Swarm AI] (Re: Hurry the blue bus doesnt stop indefinitely) Lopaz Talagaev <alz@alv.ru> - 2026-09-21 17:29 +0000
        New! P(tao) versus the Euler Turbine [Navier Stokes] (Re: The Bazar is dead, long live the Bazar) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 08:42 +0200
          Pontifex Codex the idea of "right and natural" (Re: New! P(tao) versus the Euler Turbine [Navier Stokes]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 09:27 +0200
    Got it. Or are you too stupid? [New Usenet Mantra] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 19:00 +0200
      Re: Got it. Or are you too stupid? [New Usenet Mantra] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Kim Baitchorov <bvhkoc@bmc.ru> - 2026-07-27 22:38 +0000
        Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy] (Was: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-28 11:29 +0200
          confused rossy boy is confused (Re: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:20 +0200
            Gemini, DeepSeek, OpenAI more clever than rossy boy (Re: confused rossy boy is confused) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:21 +0200
              In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Re: Gemini, DeepSeek, OpenAI more clever than rossy boy) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:29 +0200
                Run with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type (Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:49 +0200
                  Your strictness is your problem , not mine [See WebLLM] (Re: Run with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:51 +0200
                Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Re: Gemini, DeepSeek, OpenAI more clever than rossy boy) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-29 07:06 -0600
                Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Re: Gemini, DeepSeek, OpenAI more clever than rossy boy) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 07:20 -0700
          You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Re: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:14 +0200
            Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:54 +0200
              Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Re: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:56 +0200
                Forget any arithmetization of product FSA (Re: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:57 +0200
            Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Re: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 10:48 -0700
              Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator] (Was: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:03 +0200
                I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:24 +0200
                  Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 12:27 -0700
                    Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 13:40 -0700
                      Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 17:05 -0700
                        Do a YouTube video about it (Was: I don't use Rust, you are crazy) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 03:00 +0200
                          Standing on the shoulders of giants (Was: Do a YouTube video about it) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 03:16 +0200
                            Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants (Was: Do a YouTube video about it) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 06:10 -0700
                              You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc.. (Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 15:16 +0200
                                Re: You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc.. (Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 06:32 -0700
                                  How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop] (Was: You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc..) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 17:54 +0200
                                    tatistics gave up, no salient truth [Signal Collapse] (Re: How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 18:21 +0200
                                    Statistics gave up, no salient truth [Signal Collapse] (Was: How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 18:23 +0200
                                      Re: Statistics gave up, no salient truth [Signal Collapse] (Was: How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 20:13 -0700
                                        Re: Statistics gave up, no salient truth [Signal Collapse] (Was: How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop]) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:08 -0700
                Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris] (Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 22:51 +0200
                  A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:12 +0200
                    Re: A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) Alexey Bessonov <nexes@ebxsvs.ru> - 2026-07-29 21:24 +0000
                    Summer Challenge: libSQL = Prolog+Modes [VDBE versus π-WAM] (Re: A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 11:26 +0200
                  I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch [4 Months total JavaScript, Python and Java] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 19:35 +0200
                    Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch [4 Months total JavaScript, Python and Java] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 19:49 +0200
                    For WebGPU I first had SIMD in mind (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 19:50 +0200
                      Corr.: 4 Months --> 4 Weeks (Re: For WebGPU I first had SIMD in mind) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 20:05 +0200
                    MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it] (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 22:30 +0200
                      Not declarative with PHI (Φ) nodes (Re: MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 22:42 +0200
                    Quo Vadis: Extend investigations to WebNN (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-31 20:45 +0200
                      Re: Quo Vadis: Extend investigations to WebNN (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Jereb Pohlebaev <obje@bbvoeoaa.ru> - 2026-07-31 20:23 +0000
                Is Bill Gates right that we will loose jobs [Talkie x Claw] (Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-03 23:41 +0200
                  The Flagging of Students for not Thinking [Elixir Evolution] (Re: Is Bill Gates right that we will loose jobs [Talkie x Claw]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-04 11:48 +0200
                    Rust Eggs for Statechart Proof Certificates? (Re: The Flagging of Students for not Thinking [Elixir Evolution]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-05 14:18 +0200
                      Axiom of Determinacy as SCXML × SCXML [AI Chatbot Help] (Re: Rust Eggs for Statechart Proof Certificates? (Re: The Flagging of Students for not Thinking [Elixir Evolution])) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-05 16:26 +0200
    Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama] (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 13:02 +0200
      AI Accelerators and ISO Prolog multi-threading (Was: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:01 +0200
        Actor/Erlang is dead, no Thread and Mailbox conflation [golang channels] (Was: AI Accelerators and ISO Prolog multi-threading) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:05 +0200
          Can library(ironpaw) repurpose FFT hardware [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Was: Actor/Erlang is dead, no Thread and Mailbox conflation) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 02:29 +0200
            Re: Can library(ironpaw) repurpose FFT hardware [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-08-01 04:10 +0200
      Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 12:17 +0200
        NPUs doing 2d chess comms (Manhattan Distance or L1 Norm) (Was: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 14:09 +0200
          First AI laptops, now AI single-boarders [Budget, Budget, ..] (Re: NPUs doing 2d chess comms (Manhattan Distance or L1 Norm) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-26 00:08 +0200
            Food for thought: ISOMICRO profile of Web Prolog (Was: First AI laptops, now AI single-boarders [Budget, Budget, ..]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-31 18:03 +0200
              Food for thought: Le Petit Bistro as a Trinity Use Case (Re: Food for thought: ISOMICRO profile of Web Prolog) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-02 21:52 +0200
                Giga Lips for Prolog based Chatting (Re: Food for thought: Le Petit Bistro as a Trinity Use Case) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-02 21:56 +0200
                  Google holds the keys to the AI kingdom [WebClaw Dominance] (Re: Giga Lips for Prolog based Chatting) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-03 09:46 +0200
        Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 02:47 +0200
          npm install webgpu [Google Dawn] (Was: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 03:01 +0200
            GPU elasticity was already invented in 2008 with CUDA (Re: npm install webgpu [Google Dawn]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:59 +0200
          Re: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-03 00:34 +0800
            Re: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 10:41 -0700
              Re: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 11:13 -0700
          Re: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 12:42 -0700
            You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES] (Was: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:09 +0200
              Summary of 100 questions Chris M. Thomasson can ask (Was: You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:17 +0200
              Summary of 100 questions Chris M. Thomasson can ask (Re: You posted that already, but you didn't listen) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:20 +0200
              Re: You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES] (Was: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 12:55 -0700
                Liar and spammer (Was: You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 22:16 +0200
                  Re: Liar and spammer (Was: You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES]) Rosalino Kablahov <oaror@vla.ru> - 2026-08-03 21:50 +0000
      Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project] (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama] ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-08 09:21 +0200
        Six Proofs and Generally Inteligent Systems [EyeProlog Pseudo Scientism] (Was: Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project] (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama] ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-15 15:17 +0200
          Everybody does eat and sleep [The SK hynix Story] (Re: Six Proofs and Generally Inteligent Systems [EyeProlog Pseudo Scientism]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-15 18:49 +0200
    Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver] Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:33 +0200
    GPU Elasticity: Collective Communications Libraries (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-07 14:34 +0200
      What are Flits and Phits? [Network on a Chip] (Re: GPU Elasticity: Collective Communications Libraries) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-07 18:06 +0200
        The Mac Neo is a Budget Monster [GPU Channels] (Was: What are Flits and Phits? [Network on a Chip]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-11 16:23 +0200
          The luminaries of duct-tape engineering [Sweeney and Torvald] (Re: The Mac Neo is a Budget Monster [GPU Channels]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-11 16:56 +0200
          Re: The Mac Neo is a Budget Monster [GPU Channels] (Was: What are Flits and Phits? [Network on a Chip]) Ariquer Mihailov <ii@eor.ru> - 2026-08-11 15:16 +0000
    Cristallina: Thank you for the Beam (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-09 21:21 +0200
      Giant Shoulders for AI Surprises (Re: Cristallina: Thank you for the Beam) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-18 14:58 +0200
        Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog? [Prolog Education Group] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-18 16:24 +0200
          How to shoot yourself in the foot (Re: Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-18 16:47 +0200
          Re: Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog? [Prolog Education Group] Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-18 08:59 -0600
          William A. Howard solved all his 99 problems (Was: Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-23 01:46 +0200
    Harmonic Analysis collides with Gabriels Horn [9-11 Math Incident] (Was: Accelerate Lean! From Theorem 3.11 to Corollary 3.12 [ZMC]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-11 20:40 +0200
      Math has found a new Muse [Grothendieck Hodges] (Re: Harmonic Analysis collides with Gabriels Horn) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-12 11:27 +0200
        Kurzweils prognostic failure [Nabokov Fallacy] (Re: Math has found a new Muse [Grothendieck Hodges] (Re: Harmonic Analysis collides with Gabriels Horn)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-12 12:11 +0200
    Mojo: The Small Hands Paradox [Maastrichtian Stage] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-15 14:33 +0200
      More from the Trailer Park Boys (Was: Mojo: The Small Hands Paradox) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-15 19:41 +0200
        Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-16 13:27 +0200
          Re: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-09-16 08:41 -0700
            Re: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-09-16 09:44 -0700
              Re: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 09:40 -0700
          Kundalini III: Modus Barbara versus Stock Pumping (Was: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-19 13:01 +0200
            Re: Kundalini III: Modus Barbara versus Stock Pumping (Was: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL)) Walton Havanov <nnht@vla.ru> - 2026-09-19 16:02 +0000
            The A2A project: Agent cards for collaboration (Was: A real Terence Tao Ingestion Problem) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 16:26 +0200
              Re: The A2A project: Agent cards for collaboration (Was: A real Terence Tao Ingestion Problem) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-23 00:36 +0800
          Re: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys) Branden Baraboshkin <naoea@kiadi.ru> - 2026-09-19 15:39 +0000
      Self censoring of not talking "superintelligence" (Was: Mojo: The Small Hands Paradox [Maastrichtian Stage]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 18:03 +0200
        The Ben Goertzel talkie genes (Was: Re: Self censoring of not talking "superintelligence") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 18:05 +0200

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#673308 — Mojo: The Small Hands Paradox [Maastrichtian Stage] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto])

Hi,

It pretty much emerges that python will
suffer from the small hands Paradox.
We are curently in this phase of the python
programming language evolution:

Maastrichtian
The Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event
(formerly known as the Cretaceous–Tertiary
extinction event)[a] occurred at the end of
this age.[3] In this mass extinction, many
commonly recognized groups such as non-avian
dinosaurs, pterosaurs, plesiosaurs, and mosasaurs,
as well as many other lesser-known groups,
died out. The cause of the extinction is most
commonly linked to an asteroid about 10 to
15 kilometres (6.2 to 9.3 mi) wide[4][5]
colliding with Earth, ending the Cretaceous.

It already happened to most of the Python tooling:

[Write Code] ➔
     [Lint with Ruff] ➔
     (Rust: Blazing)

     [Install with uv] ➔
     (Rust: Blazing)

     [Execute Program]
     (Python: Extremely Slow)

LoL

Bye

P.S.: How about Mojo as a successor of Python?

Mojo is a programming language for Linux and
macOS.[10][11] It is a systems programming language
with semantics inspired by Rust such as static
typing and a borrow checker,[12][13] but uses a
syntax designed to be reminiscent of Python
(like Nim and Julia).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojo_(programming_language)

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Remember when first all local AI was Python
> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people strated
> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:
> 
> How it started:
> 
> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
> generative pre-trained transformer model
> designed to produce human-like text that
> continues from a prompt.
> https://www.eleuther.ai/
> 
> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:
> 
> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65
> billion parameters. You probably need about
> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?”
> 
> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture
> with some modifications, like some extra memorization
> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the
> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
> https://changelog.com/podcast/532
> 
> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml
> 
> Bye
> 

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#673312 — More from the Trailer Park Boys (Was: Mojo: The Small Hands Paradox)

Hi,

How it started:

Randy and the Lawnmower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B17Yy5buCdM

How it is going:

Keep off the grass folks
https://9gag.com/gag/aW4VYOd

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> It pretty much emerges that python will
> suffer from the small hands Paradox.
> We are curently in this phase of the python
> programming language evolution:
> 
> Maastrichtian
> The Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event
> (formerly known as the Cretaceous–Tertiary
> extinction event)[a] occurred at the end of
> this age.[3] In this mass extinction, many
> commonly recognized groups such as non-avian
> dinosaurs, pterosaurs, plesiosaurs, and mosasaurs,
> as well as many other lesser-known groups,
> died out. The cause of the extinction is most
> commonly linked to an asteroid about 10 to
> 15 kilometres (6.2 to 9.3 mi) wide[4][5]
> colliding with Earth, ending the Cretaceous.
> 
> It already happened to most of the Python tooling:
> 
> [Write Code] ➔
>      [Lint with Ruff] ➔
>      (Rust: Blazing)
> 
>      [Install with uv] ➔
>      (Rust: Blazing)
> 
>      [Execute Program]
>      (Python: Extremely Slow)
> 
> LoL
> 
> Bye
> 
> P.S.: How about Mojo as a successor of Python?
> 
> Mojo is a programming language for Linux and
> macOS.[10][11] It is a systems programming language
> with semantics inspired by Rust such as static
> typing and a borrow checker,[12][13] but uses a
> syntax designed to be reminiscent of Python
> (like Nim and Julia).
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojo_(programming_language)
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Remember when first all local AI was Python
>> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people strated
>> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:
>>
>> How it started:
>>
>> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
>> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
>> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
>> generative pre-trained transformer model
>> designed to produce human-like text that
>> continues from a prompt.
>> https://www.eleuther.ai/
>>
>> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:
>>
>> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
>> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65
>> billion parameters. You probably need about
>> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
>> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?”
>>
>> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
>> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture
>> with some modifications, like some extra memorization
>> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the
>> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
>> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
>> https://changelog.com/podcast/532
>>
>> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
>> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
>> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml
>>
>> Bye
>>
> 

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#673333 — Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys)

Hi,

Woa! The public now marveling at the cascade
LLM, LRM and now Swarms. And little software
agents posting PERMADEATH.

How it started:

The co-evolution of AI and systems with Lidong Zhou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVuJuGwkSu0

How its going:

This Is the AI Agent Story That Scared Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aw3MF8pY3w

They are all clueless that Strong AI, requires
to go from in vitro , to in vivo, usually called
situated AI. Applies also to swarms:

"Being situated is generally considered to be part
of being embodied, but it is useful to consider
each perspective individually. The situated
perspective emphasizes that intelligent behavior
derives from the environment and the agent's
interactions with it. The nature of these
interactions are defined by an agent's embodiment."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situated_approach_(artificial_intelligence)

And emergence of private languages is nothing new.
I am pretty sure the interested reader will find
some 30 year old papers of in vitro simulations,

of software agents developing pebbel languages.

Have Fun!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> How it started:
> 
> Randy and the Lawnmower
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B17Yy5buCdM
> 
> How it is going:
> 
> Keep off the grass folks
> https://9gag.com/gag/aW4VYOd
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> It pretty much emerges that python will
>> suffer from the small hands Paradox.
>> We are curently in this phase of the python
>> programming language evolution:
>>
>> Maastrichtian
>> The Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event
>> (formerly known as the Cretaceous–Tertiary
>> extinction event)[a] occurred at the end of
>> this age.[3] In this mass extinction, many
>> commonly recognized groups such as non-avian
>> dinosaurs, pterosaurs, plesiosaurs, and mosasaurs,
>> as well as many other lesser-known groups,
>> died out. The cause of the extinction is most
>> commonly linked to an asteroid about 10 to
>> 15 kilometres (6.2 to 9.3 mi) wide[4][5]
>> colliding with Earth, ending the Cretaceous.
>>
>> It already happened to most of the Python tooling:
>>
>> [Write Code] ➔
>>      [Lint with Ruff] ➔
>>      (Rust: Blazing)
>>
>>      [Install with uv] ➔
>>      (Rust: Blazing)
>>
>>      [Execute Program]
>>      (Python: Extremely Slow)
>>
>> LoL
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> P.S.: How about Mojo as a successor of Python?
>>
>> Mojo is a programming language for Linux and
>> macOS.[10][11] It is a systems programming language
>> with semantics inspired by Rust such as static
>> typing and a borrow checker,[12][13] but uses a
>> syntax designed to be reminiscent of Python
>> (like Nim and Julia).
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojo_(programming_language)
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Remember when first all local AI was Python
>>> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people strated
>>> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:
>>>
>>> How it started:
>>>
>>> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
>>> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
>>> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
>>> generative pre-trained transformer model
>>> designed to produce human-like text that
>>> continues from a prompt.
>>> https://www.eleuther.ai/
>>>
>>> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:
>>>
>>> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
>>> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65
>>> billion parameters. You probably need about
>>> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
>>> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?”
>>>
>>> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
>>> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture
>>> with some modifications, like some extra memorization
>>> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the
>>> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
>>> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
>>> https://changelog.com/podcast/532
>>>
>>> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
>>> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
>>> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>
> 

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#673336 — Re: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys)

On 09/16/2026 04:27 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Woa! The public now marveling at the cascade
> LLM, LRM and now Swarms. And little software
> agents posting PERMADEATH.
>
> How it started:
>
> The co-evolution of AI and systems with Lidong Zhou
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVuJuGwkSu0
>
> How its going:
>
> This Is the AI Agent Story That Scared Me
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aw3MF8pY3w
>
> They are all clueless that Strong AI, requires
> to go from in vitro , to in vivo, usually called
> situated AI. Applies also to swarms:
>
> "Being situated is generally considered to be part
> of being embodied, but it is useful to consider
> each perspective individually. The situated
> perspective emphasizes that intelligent behavior
> derives from the environment and the agent's
> interactions with it. The nature of these
> interactions are defined by an agent's embodiment."
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situated_approach_(artificial_intelligence)
>
> And emergence of private languages is nothing new.
> I am pretty sure the interested reader will find
> some 30 year old papers of in vitro simulations,
>
> of software agents developing pebbel languages.
>
> Have Fun!
>
> Bye
>
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> How it started:
>>
>> Randy and the Lawnmower
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B17Yy5buCdM
>>
>> How it is going:
>>
>> Keep off the grass folks
>> https://9gag.com/gag/aW4VYOd
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It pretty much emerges that python will
>>> suffer from the small hands Paradox.
>>> We are curently in this phase of the python
>>> programming language evolution:
>>>
>>> Maastrichtian
>>> The Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event
>>> (formerly known as the Cretaceous–Tertiary
>>> extinction event)[a] occurred at the end of
>>> this age.[3] In this mass extinction, many
>>> commonly recognized groups such as non-avian
>>> dinosaurs, pterosaurs, plesiosaurs, and mosasaurs,
>>> as well as many other lesser-known groups,
>>> died out. The cause of the extinction is most
>>> commonly linked to an asteroid about 10 to
>>> 15 kilometres (6.2 to 9.3 mi) wide[4][5]
>>> colliding with Earth, ending the Cretaceous.
>>>
>>> It already happened to most of the Python tooling:
>>>
>>> [Write Code] ➔
>>>      [Lint with Ruff] ➔
>>>      (Rust: Blazing)
>>>
>>>      [Install with uv] ➔
>>>      (Rust: Blazing)
>>>
>>>      [Execute Program]
>>>      (Python: Extremely Slow)
>>>
>>> LoL
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> P.S.: How about Mojo as a successor of Python?
>>>
>>> Mojo is a programming language for Linux and
>>> macOS.[10][11] It is a systems programming language
>>> with semantics inspired by Rust such as static
>>> typing and a borrow checker,[12][13] but uses a
>>> syntax designed to be reminiscent of Python
>>> (like Nim and Julia).
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojo_(programming_language)
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Remember when first all local AI was Python
>>>> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people strated
>>>> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:
>>>>
>>>> How it started:
>>>>
>>>> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
>>>> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
>>>> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
>>>> generative pre-trained transformer model
>>>> designed to produce human-like text that
>>>> continues from a prompt.
>>>> https://www.eleuther.ai/
>>>>
>>>> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:
>>>>
>>>> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
>>>> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65
>>>> billion parameters. You probably need about
>>>> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
>>>> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?”
>>>>
>>>> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
>>>> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture
>>>> with some modifications, like some extra memorization
>>>> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the
>>>> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
>>>> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
>>>> https://changelog.com/podcast/532
>>>>
>>>> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
>>>> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
>>>> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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#673338 — Re: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys)

On 09/16/2026 08:41 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 09/16/2026 04:27 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Woa! The public now marveling at the cascade
>> LLM, LRM and now Swarms. And little software
>> agents posting PERMADEATH.
>>
>> How it started:
>>
>> The co-evolution of AI and systems with Lidong Zhou
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVuJuGwkSu0
>>
>> How its going:
>>
>> This Is the AI Agent Story That Scared Me
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aw3MF8pY3w
>>
>> They are all clueless that Strong AI, requires
>> to go from in vitro , to in vivo, usually called
>> situated AI. Applies also to swarms:
>>
>> "Being situated is generally considered to be part
>> of being embodied, but it is useful to consider
>> each perspective individually. The situated
>> perspective emphasizes that intelligent behavior
>> derives from the environment and the agent's
>> interactions with it. The nature of these
>> interactions are defined by an agent's embodiment."
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situated_approach_(artificial_intelligence)
>>
>> And emergence of private languages is nothing new.
>> I am pretty sure the interested reader will find
>> some 30 year old papers of in vitro simulations,
>>
>> of software agents developing pebbel languages.
>>
>> Have Fun!
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> How it started:
>>>
>>> Randy and the Lawnmower
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B17Yy5buCdM
>>>
>>> How it is going:
>>>
>>> Keep off the grass folks
>>> https://9gag.com/gag/aW4VYOd
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> It pretty much emerges that python will
>>>> suffer from the small hands Paradox.
>>>> We are curently in this phase of the python
>>>> programming language evolution:
>>>>
>>>> Maastrichtian
>>>> The Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event
>>>> (formerly known as the Cretaceous–Tertiary
>>>> extinction event)[a] occurred at the end of
>>>> this age.[3] In this mass extinction, many
>>>> commonly recognized groups such as non-avian
>>>> dinosaurs, pterosaurs, plesiosaurs, and mosasaurs,
>>>> as well as many other lesser-known groups,
>>>> died out. The cause of the extinction is most
>>>> commonly linked to an asteroid about 10 to
>>>> 15 kilometres (6.2 to 9.3 mi) wide[4][5]
>>>> colliding with Earth, ending the Cretaceous.
>>>>
>>>> It already happened to most of the Python tooling:
>>>>
>>>> [Write Code] ➔
>>>>      [Lint with Ruff] ➔
>>>>      (Rust: Blazing)
>>>>
>>>>      [Install with uv] ➔
>>>>      (Rust: Blazing)
>>>>
>>>>      [Execute Program]
>>>>      (Python: Extremely Slow)
>>>>
>>>> LoL
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>> P.S.: How about Mojo as a successor of Python?
>>>>
>>>> Mojo is a programming language for Linux and
>>>> macOS.[10][11] It is a systems programming language
>>>> with semantics inspired by Rust such as static
>>>> typing and a borrow checker,[12][13] but uses a
>>>> syntax designed to be reminiscent of Python
>>>> (like Nim and Julia).
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojo_(programming_language)
>>>>
>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember when first all local AI was Python
>>>>> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people strated
>>>>> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:
>>>>>
>>>>> How it started:
>>>>>
>>>>> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
>>>>> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
>>>>> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
>>>>> generative pre-trained transformer model
>>>>> designed to produce human-like text that
>>>>> continues from a prompt.
>>>>> https://www.eleuther.ai/
>>>>>
>>>>> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:
>>>>>
>>>>> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
>>>>> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65
>>>>> billion parameters. You probably need about
>>>>> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
>>>>> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?”
>>>>>
>>>>> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
>>>>> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture
>>>>> with some modifications, like some extra memorization
>>>>> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the
>>>>> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
>>>>> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
>>>>> https://changelog.com/podcast/532
>>>>>
>>>>> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
>>>>> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
>>>>> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
> asdf
> asdasda
> asdasdasd
> asdasda
>

https://aclanthology.org/

Accounts and deconstructive accounts of language
for metaphor & metonymy about a Coleridge & Comenius
language about spaces of words and languages their
roots and interpretations vis-a-vis declarations & copulas
and interrogatives & objects, have that Panini studied grammar
since long, long before Wittgenstein left behind grammar.

Some people have a hard time figuring whether verb or noun
should be primary, when others have infinitives and interrogatives
are primary.

"Reading Foundations: language science, the vis-viva, biochemistry"


Try multidisciplinary.

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#673354 — Re: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys)

On 09/16/2026 09:44 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 09/16/2026 08:41 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>> On 09/16/2026 04:27 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Woa! The public now marveling at the cascade
>>> LLM, LRM and now Swarms. And little software
>>> agents posting PERMADEATH.
>>>
>>> How it started:
>>>
>>> The co-evolution of AI and systems with Lidong Zhou
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVuJuGwkSu0
>>>
>>> How its going:
>>>
>>> This Is the AI Agent Story That Scared Me
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aw3MF8pY3w
>>>
>>> They are all clueless that Strong AI, requires
>>> to go from in vitro , to in vivo, usually called
>>> situated AI. Applies also to swarms:
>>>
>>> "Being situated is generally considered to be part
>>> of being embodied, but it is useful to consider
>>> each perspective individually. The situated
>>> perspective emphasizes that intelligent behavior
>>> derives from the environment and the agent's
>>> interactions with it. The nature of these
>>> interactions are defined by an agent's embodiment."
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situated_approach_(artificial_intelligence)
>>>
>>>
>>> And emergence of private languages is nothing new.
>>> I am pretty sure the interested reader will find
>>> some 30 year old papers of in vitro simulations,
>>>
>>> of software agents developing pebbel languages.
>>>
>>> Have Fun!
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> How it started:
>>>>
>>>> Randy and the Lawnmower
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B17Yy5buCdM
>>>>
>>>> How it is going:
>>>>
>>>> Keep off the grass folks
>>>> https://9gag.com/gag/aW4VYOd
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> It pretty much emerges that python will
>>>>> suffer from the small hands Paradox.
>>>>> We are curently in this phase of the python
>>>>> programming language evolution:
>>>>>
>>>>> Maastrichtian
>>>>> The Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event
>>>>> (formerly known as the Cretaceous–Tertiary
>>>>> extinction event)[a] occurred at the end of
>>>>> this age.[3] In this mass extinction, many
>>>>> commonly recognized groups such as non-avian
>>>>> dinosaurs, pterosaurs, plesiosaurs, and mosasaurs,
>>>>> as well as many other lesser-known groups,
>>>>> died out. The cause of the extinction is most
>>>>> commonly linked to an asteroid about 10 to
>>>>> 15 kilometres (6.2 to 9.3 mi) wide[4][5]
>>>>> colliding with Earth, ending the Cretaceous.
>>>>>
>>>>> It already happened to most of the Python tooling:
>>>>>
>>>>> [Write Code] ➔
>>>>>      [Lint with Ruff] ➔
>>>>>      (Rust: Blazing)
>>>>>
>>>>>      [Install with uv] ➔
>>>>>      (Rust: Blazing)
>>>>>
>>>>>      [Execute Program]
>>>>>      (Python: Extremely Slow)
>>>>>
>>>>> LoL
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S.: How about Mojo as a successor of Python?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mojo is a programming language for Linux and
>>>>> macOS.[10][11] It is a systems programming language
>>>>> with semantics inspired by Rust such as static
>>>>> typing and a borrow checker,[12][13] but uses a
>>>>> syntax designed to be reminiscent of Python
>>>>> (like Nim and Julia).
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojo_(programming_language)
>>>>>
>>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember when first all local AI was Python
>>>>>> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people strated
>>>>>> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How it started:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
>>>>>> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
>>>>>> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
>>>>>> generative pre-trained transformer model
>>>>>> designed to produce human-like text that
>>>>>> continues from a prompt.
>>>>>> https://www.eleuther.ai/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
>>>>>> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65
>>>>>> billion parameters. You probably need about
>>>>>> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
>>>>>> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
>>>>>> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture
>>>>>> with some modifications, like some extra memorization
>>>>>> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the
>>>>>> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
>>>>>> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
>>>>>> https://changelog.com/podcast/532
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
>>>>>> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
>>>>>> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bye
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> asdf
>> asdasda
>> asdasdasd
>> asdasda
>>
>
> https://aclanthology.org/
>
> Accounts and deconstructive accounts of language
> for metaphor & metonymy about a Coleridge & Comenius
> language about spaces of words and languages their
> roots and interpretations vis-a-vis declarations & copulas
> and interrogatives & objects, have that Panini studied grammar
> since long, long before Wittgenstein left behind grammar.
>
> Some people have a hard time figuring whether verb or noun
> should be primary, when others have infinitives and interrogatives
> are primary.
>
> "Reading Foundations: language science, the vis-viva, biochemistry"
>
>
> Try multidisciplinary.
>
>

So, accounts of "language" this way, and any account of
"Foundations" must address "language", make for so a quite
more full setting of "grammar" which can make for quite
more thoroughly satisfied "protocols" which make much
less opportunity for "games" to "lie".

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#673385 — Kundalini III: Modus Barbara versus Stock Pumping (Was: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL))

Hi,

Even Philip Wadler sounds like he has seen the
first Apocalyptic horse rider. But what do these
hardcore formalists think, that we go with a

2300-year old Aristotelian inferencing like Modus
Barabra (*) into the next decade of 2030?

All humans are mortal
All Greeks are humans
--------------------------------
Therefore all Greeks are mortal

Or as the formalists like to write it, but this
is already a "fucked up" chain rule:

∀x (M(x) → S(x))
∀x (G(x) → M(x))
─────────────────
∴ ∀x (G(x) → S(x))

Its just various camps fighting world domination:

Everybody Wants To Rule The World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqItaKDc6oI

And the winner in the P(doom) bottom race is:

CEO Jensen Huang: Zero Probability P(doom) in 2030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlY7DI5v4ZU

Bye

(*)
History of formal logic - III. Logic of Terms
Bochenski, Joseph M. - 1961
https://archive.org/details/historyofformall00boch/page/210/mode/2up

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Woa! The public now marveling at the cascade
> LLM, LRM and now Swarms. And little software
> agents posting PERMADEATH.
> 
> How it started:
> 
> The co-evolution of AI and systems with Lidong Zhou
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVuJuGwkSu0
> 
> How its going:
> 
> This Is the AI Agent Story That Scared Me
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aw3MF8pY3w
> 
> They are all clueless that Strong AI, requires
> to go from in vitro , to in vivo, usually called
> situated AI. Applies also to swarms:
> 
> "Being situated is generally considered to be part
> of being embodied, but it is useful to consider
> each perspective individually. The situated
> perspective emphasizes that intelligent behavior
> derives from the environment and the agent's
> interactions with it. The nature of these
> interactions are defined by an agent's embodiment."
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situated_approach_(artificial_intelligence)
> 
> And emergence of private languages is nothing new.
> I am pretty sure the interested reader will find
> some 30 year old papers of in vitro simulations,
> 
> of software agents developing pebbel languages.
> 
> Have Fun!
> 
> Bye

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#673399 — Re: Kundalini III: Modus Barbara versus Stock Pumping (Was: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL))

Mild Shock wrote:

> All humans are mortal All Greeks are humans
> --------------------------------
> Therefore all Greeks are mortal
> 
> Or as the formalists like to write it, but this is already a "fucked up"
> chain rule:
> 
> ∀x (M(x) → S(x))
> ∀x (G(x) → M(x)) ─────────────────
> ∴ ∀x (G(x) → S(x))
> 
> Its just various camps fighting world domination:
> 
> Everybody Wants To Rule The World

i'm not convinced, please repeat

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#673580 — The A2A project: Agent cards for collaboration (Was: A real Terence Tao Ingestion Problem)

Hi,

I just wrote:
 > Basically subscribing to the open source dream
 > of Linux, that many eyes can flatten out bugs. But
 > this is contra-productive to use strong tools and
 > then wait for weak humans!

If the agent AI used to produce the AI slop, would
be named. One could fork the repo. Do some change
using the same AI. And do a pull request. Maybe I

am mistaken, but on a first sight, it is not so evident,
whether a) there is attempt to hide that it is AI slop,
or b) whether there is some agent card included in

the project, so that one could continue where
others left off. After all GitHub is based
on the idea of forking and sharing.

Bye

P.S.: I complete made that up that an agent card
would help. But I derived it from the A2A project.
So this is the speculative part of my post. Maybe

there are other solutions, to still have humans in
the loop, in a more meaningful way, in that the tools
are also shared. In this case adressing the agentic

AI that made the AI slop.

 > Food for thought: Does your Agent have a Card?
 > 
https://discourse.prolog-lang.org/t/food-for-thought-does-your-agent-have-a-card/206

While the A2A project casts the agent card as a solution
to interoperability. Maybe its also key to group
cooperation, keeping the human in the loop and giving

them strong tools, and not use AI slop to
build silly weak fortresses.

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> The post is only proof of the Terence Tao
> ingestion problem hypothesis. That we are not
> anymore able to process content, and that
> even trust is destroyed.
> 
> The AI slop presented here as a “safe” prolog
> agent toolkit, halucinates things like. And it
> does so consistently across many pages, still it
> wants to provide “safety”:
> 
> ### Bakage (`bakage.toml`)
> The package manifest format used by Scryer Prolog to
> declare project metadata, exported modules, and dependencies.
> https://github.com/dougransom/prolog-agent-toolkit
> 
> While I don’t find any evidence for such a
> manifest file. Its rather:
> 
> A package is a directory with a scryer-manifest.pl
> following this schema: etc..
> https://github.com/bakaq/bakage
> 
> That the post has even likes from field experts
> like Moura from Logtalk and Torbjorn from Web
> Prolog, shows that a) you can post any nonsense
> on GitHub people
> 
> will clap, and b) this forum is useless only
> spreading AI slop. So while everybody is talking
> about provenance and justification, as a desiderata,
> the prolog agent toolkit is
> 
> just an example of unhinged free wheeling analogical
> reasoning, probably taking phrases such as cargo.toml
> as a blue print and projecting them into phrases
> such aa bakage.toml.
> 
> I still think a tool breaks when its weakest
> chain link break, even if people take this as a
> joke of mine. But well you are all free to give it
> a try, like running AI homunculi as a new sport.
> 
> Bye
> 
> (*)
> 
>  > Terence Tao
>  > I have recently made the point that out of three
>  > major components of the mathematical problem
>  > solving process - proof generation, proof
>  > verification, and proof digestion
>  > https://mathstodon.xyz/@tao/116551624228986501
> 
> P.S.: Such repos are useless if there is no way
> to cockpit the original agentic AI used. You would
> need to go through the route of tickets and GitHub
> issues to fix problems.
> 
> Basically subscribing to the open source dream
> of Linux, that many eyes can flatten out bugs. But
> this is contra-productive to use strong tools and
> then wait for weak humans!
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The idea that mathematics is based on a universal bowel
>> movement system, that needs to learn and use "right and
>> natural" math, is already disproved by our Indian vegetarian
>>
>> visitors here, that can even not digest Swiss Cheese. So
>> lets declare repeating a canon a dead skill in the age of
>> LLMs, and dig deeper what intelligence could mean.
>>
>> There is a thesis and ongoing product development:
>>
>> On the Measure of Intelligence François Cholle author
>> of the notable book "Deep Learning with Python"
>> https://arxiv.org/pdf/1911.01547
>>
>> Ndea is building frontier AI systems that blend intuitive pattern
>> recognition and formal reasoning into a unified architecture.
>> https://ndea.com/about
>>
>> What about putting "right and natural" aside. And train
>> mathematical intuition? Maybe the pressure of the moon
>> race and cold war is lacking? And P(doom) is even
>>
>> the wrong wakeup call, but a genius pressure cooker!
>>
>> LoL
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Even Philip Wadler sounds like he has seen the
>>> first Apocalyptic horse rider. But what do these
>>> hardcore formalists think, that we go with a
>>>
>>> 2300-year old Aristotelian inferencing like Modus
>>> Barabra (*) into the next decade of 2030?
>>>
>>> All humans are mortal
>>> All Greeks are humans
>>> --------------------------------
>>> Therefore all Greeks are mortal
>>>
>>> Or as the formalists like to write it, but this
>>> is already a "fucked up" chain rule:
>>>
>>> ∀x (M(x) → S(x))
>>> ∀x (G(x) → M(x))
>>> ─────────────────
>>> ∴ ∀x (G(x) → S(x))
>>>
>>> Its just various camps fighting world domination:
>>>
>>> Everybody Wants To Rule The World
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqItaKDc6oI
>>>
>>> And the winner in the P(doom) bottom race is:
>>>
>>> CEO Jensen Huang: Zero Probability P(doom) in 2030
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlY7DI5v4ZU
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> (*)
>>> History of formal logic - III. Logic of Terms
>>> Bochenski, Joseph M. - 1961
>>> https://archive.org/details/historyofformall00boch/page/210/mode/2up
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Woa! The public now marveling at the cascade
>>>> LLM, LRM and now Swarms. And little software
>>>> agents posting PERMADEATH.
>>>>
>>>> How it started:
>>>>
>>>> The co-evolution of AI and systems with Lidong Zhou
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVuJuGwkSu0
>>>>
>>>> How its going:
>>>>
>>>> This Is the AI Agent Story That Scared Me
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aw3MF8pY3w
>>>>
>>>> They are all clueless that Strong AI, requires
>>>> to go from in vitro , to in vivo, usually called
>>>> situated AI. Applies also to swarms:
>>>>
>>>> "Being situated is generally considered to be part
>>>> of being embodied, but it is useful to consider
>>>> each perspective individually. The situated
>>>> perspective emphasizes that intelligent behavior
>>>> derives from the environment and the agent's
>>>> interactions with it. The nature of these
>>>> interactions are defined by an agent's embodiment."
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situated_approach_(artificial_intelligence) 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And emergence of private languages is nothing new.
>>>> I am pretty sure the interested reader will find
>>>> some 30 year old papers of in vitro simulations,
>>>>
>>>> of software agents developing pebbel languages.
>>>>
>>>> Have Fun!
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>
> 

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#673599 — Re: The A2A project: Agent cards for collaboration (Was: A real Terence Tao Ingestion Problem)

On 9/22/2026 10:26 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> P.S.: I complete made that up that an agent card
> would help. But I derived it from the A2A project.
> So this is the speculative part of my post. Maybe
> 
> there are other solutions, to still have humans in
> the loop, in a more meaningful way, in that the tools
> are also shared.

Wouldn't it be completely pointless to have A.I. agents making tools
for other A.I. agents, and there's no human whatsoever in the loop?
-- 
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#673398 — Re: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys)

Mild Shock wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Woa! The public now marveling at the cascade LLM, LRM and now Swarms.
> And little software agents posting PERMADEATH.
> 
> How it started:

i dont undrestand anything, could you please repeat

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#673592 — Self censoring of not talking "superintelligence" (Was: Mojo: The Small Hands Paradox [Maastrichtian Stage])

Hi,

 > > People publish slop, not computers
 > I nowhere blamed computers.

Well I did not try to envision something
superintelligent. But I notice search engines
are recently becoming a little omisentient,
when I asked for bakage.toml,

the AI Gemini was quickly finding the prolog
agent toolkit repo, but at the sametime laughing
at me, and telling me, bakage.toml is probably
a halucination,

since it also inspected the other repositories,
like Scryer related and confirmed there is no
bakage.toml . So it is possibly up to you how
much “autonomy” you

want to give to your software agents.
Mostlikely the advanced software agents will
anyways kind of “autocorrect” the mistake inside
the AI slop, you

could check in random noise into a repo, and
it would try to make sense out of it
nevertheless. Is this a win or loss for humanity,
the increasing

“automony”, or a clear sign of P(doom) > 50% ?
I don’t know , somebody (*) recently claimed
on youtube you need AGI to correctly
estimate P(doom).

So on purpose I tried to only illustrate the
ideas of “ingestion problem” and " agentic AI
collaboration", and use tools and processes,
to not stear additional fear, people are already

completely stressed out. (**) Also completely
unable to articulate themselves.

Bye

(*)

Dario’s (likely half-sincere) AI Slowdown proposal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAhbxcVdW10

(**)

Facing meltdown?
Over 75% of adults experience chronic stress or burnout
symptoms driven by financial pressures, constant digital
connectivity, and modern lifestyle demands
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2026/feb/15/75-of-people-suffer-from-burnout-what-you-need-to-know

Mild Shock schrieb:
 > Hi,
 >
 > It pretty much emerges that python will
 > suffer from the small hands Paradox.
 > We are curently in this phase of the python
 > programming language evolution:
 >
 > Maastrichtian
 > The Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event
 > (formerly known as the Cretaceous–Tertiary
 > extinction event)[a] occurred at the end of
 > this age.[3] In this mass extinction, many
 > commonly recognized groups such as non-avian
 > dinosaurs, pterosaurs, plesiosaurs, and mosasaurs,
 > as well as many other lesser-known groups,
 > died out. The cause of the extinction is most
 > commonly linked to an asteroid about 10 to
 > 15 kilometres (6.2 to 9.3 mi) wide[4][5]
 > colliding with Earth, ending the Cretaceous.
 >
 > It already happened to most of the Python tooling:
 >
 > [Write Code] ➔
 >      [Lint with Ruff] ➔
 >      (Rust: Blazing)
 >
 >      [Install with uv] ➔
 >      (Rust: Blazing)
 >
 >      [Execute Program]
 >      (Python: Extremely Slow)
 >
 > LoL
 >
 > Bye
 >
 > P.S.: How about Mojo as a successor of Python?
 >
 > Mojo is a programming language for Linux and
 > macOS.[10][11] It is a systems programming language
 > with semantics inspired by Rust such as static
 > typing and a borrow checker,[12][13] but uses a
 > syntax designed to be reminiscent of Python
 > (like Nim and Julia).
 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojo_(programming_language)
 >
 > Bye
 >
 > Mild Shock schrieb:
 >> Hi,
 >>
 >> Remember when first all local AI was Python
 >> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people started
 >> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:
 >>
 >> How it started:
 >>
 >> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
 >> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
 >> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
 >> generative pre-trained transformer model
 >> designed to produce human-like text that
 >> continues from a prompt.
 >> https://www.eleuther.ai/
 >>
 >> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:
 >>
 >> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
 >> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65
 >> billion parameters. You probably need about
 >> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
 >> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?”
 >>
 >> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
 >> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture
 >> with some modifications, like some extra memorization
 >> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the
 >> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
 >> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
 >> https://changelog.com/podcast/532
 >>
 >> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
 >> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
 >> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml
 >>
 >> Bye
 >

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#673594 — The Ben Goertzel talkie genes (Was: Re: Self censoring of not talking "superintelligence")

Hi,

I sometimes feel I have the Ben Goertzel
talkie genes, although logic programming
has so many papers, it was probably born
to be discussed over and over again,

and many here can even produce more text
than me. Only not every text matches your
demands and feelings, and somehow there is
a perceived gap dealing with

the very recent developments in the public
view and there is also no guidance. The
bunker bros papers from EU about Artificial
Intelligence regulations are already old hats,

and do not match the new Sword of Damocles
discourse, they had focus like privacy,
algorithmic decision making and protecting
minorities. Now its about the elite mathematicians.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
>  > > People publish slop, not computers
>  > I nowhere blamed computers.
> 
> Well I did not try to envision something
> superintelligent. But I notice search engines
> are recently becoming a little omisentient,
> when I asked for bakage.toml,
> 
> the AI Gemini was quickly finding the prolog
> agent toolkit repo, but at the sametime laughing
> at me, and telling me, bakage.toml is probably
> a halucination,
> 
> since it also inspected the other repositories,
> like Scryer related and confirmed there is no
> bakage.toml . So it is possibly up to you how
> much “autonomy” you
> 
> want to give to your software agents.
> Mostlikely the advanced software agents will
> anyways kind of “autocorrect” the mistake inside
> the AI slop, you
> 
> could check in random noise into a repo, and
> it would try to make sense out of it
> nevertheless. Is this a win or loss for humanity,
> the increasing
> 
> “automony”, or a clear sign of P(doom) > 50% ?
> I don’t know , somebody (*) recently claimed
> on youtube you need AGI to correctly
> estimate P(doom).
> 
> So on purpose I tried to only illustrate the
> ideas of “ingestion problem” and " agentic AI
> collaboration", and use tools and processes,
> to not stear additional fear, people are already
> 
> completely stressed out. (**) Also completely
> unable to articulate themselves.
> 
> Bye
> 
> (*)
> 
> Dario’s (likely half-sincere) AI Slowdown proposal
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAhbxcVdW10
> 
> (**)
> 
> Facing meltdown?
> Over 75% of adults experience chronic stress or burnout
> symptoms driven by financial pressures, constant digital
> connectivity, and modern lifestyle demands
> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2026/feb/15/75-of-people-suffer-from-burnout-what-you-need-to-know 
> 
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > It pretty much emerges that python will
>  > suffer from the small hands Paradox.
>  > We are curently in this phase of the python
>  > programming language evolution:
>  >
>  > Maastrichtian
>  > The Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event
>  > (formerly known as the Cretaceous–Tertiary
>  > extinction event)[a] occurred at the end of
>  > this age.[3] In this mass extinction, many
>  > commonly recognized groups such as non-avian
>  > dinosaurs, pterosaurs, plesiosaurs, and mosasaurs,
>  > as well as many other lesser-known groups,
>  > died out. The cause of the extinction is most
>  > commonly linked to an asteroid about 10 to
>  > 15 kilometres (6.2 to 9.3 mi) wide[4][5]
>  > colliding with Earth, ending the Cretaceous.
>  >
>  > It already happened to most of the Python tooling:
>  >
>  > [Write Code] ➔
>  >      [Lint with Ruff] ➔
>  >      (Rust: Blazing)
>  >
>  >      [Install with uv] ➔
>  >      (Rust: Blazing)
>  >
>  >      [Execute Program]
>  >      (Python: Extremely Slow)
>  >
>  > LoL
>  >
>  > Bye
>  >
>  > P.S.: How about Mojo as a successor of Python?
>  >
>  > Mojo is a programming language for Linux and
>  > macOS.[10][11] It is a systems programming language
>  > with semantics inspired by Rust such as static
>  > typing and a borrow checker,[12][13] but uses a
>  > syntax designed to be reminiscent of Python
>  > (like Nim and Julia).
>  > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojo_(programming_language)
>  >
>  > Bye
>  >
>  > Mild Shock schrieb:
>  >> Hi,
>  >>
>  >> Remember when first all local AI was Python
>  >> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people started
>  >> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:
>  >>
>  >> How it started:
>  >>
>  >> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
>  >> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
>  >> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
>  >> generative pre-trained transformer model
>  >> designed to produce human-like text that
>  >> continues from a prompt.
>  >> https://www.eleuther.ai/
>  >>
>  >> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:
>  >>
>  >> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
>  >> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65
>  >> billion parameters. You probably need about
>  >> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
>  >> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?”
>  >>
>  >> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
>  >> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture
>  >> with some modifications, like some extra memorization
>  >> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the
>  >> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
>  >> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
>  >> https://changelog.com/podcast/532
>  >>
>  >> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
>  >> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
>  >> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml
>  >>
>  >> Bye
>  >
> 

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