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  SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-06 09:18 -0700
    Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 09:26 -0700
      Re: SR is just another name for LET kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-06 12:53 -0400
      Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-06 11:38 -0700
        Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 15:25 -0700
        Re: SR is just another name for LET "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-09-06 17:16 -0700
          Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <set...@att.net> - 2015-09-07 01:39 +0000
          Re: SR is just another name for LET moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-07 02:44 +0000
            Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 19:56 -0700
    Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-06 10:00 -0700
      Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-06 11:50 -0700
        Re: SR is just another name for LET kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-06 15:24 -0400
          Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-06 12:47 -0700
        Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-06 13:25 -0700
    Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-06 18:33 -0500
      Re: SR is just another name for LET Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2015-09-06 17:52 -0600
        Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-06 17:55 -0700
          Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-06 18:47 -0700
        Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-06 22:19 -0500
          Re: SR is just another name for LET Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2015-09-07 09:18 -0600
            Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 08:39 -0700
              Re: SR is just another name for LET Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2015-09-07 10:05 -0600
                Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 09:34 -0700
                  Pretender Stephane Baune strikes again. "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-09-07 12:10 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-07 21:48 +0200
              Re: SR is just another name for LET kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-07 12:37 -0400
                Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 09:53 -0700
                  Re: SR is just another name for LET kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-07 13:13 -0400
                    Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 10:24 -0700
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-07 14:42 -0400
                        Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 13:06 -0700
                          Re: SR is just another name for LET kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-07 16:50 -0400
                            Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 14:23 -0700
              Re: SR is just another name for LET wugi <brol@brol.be> - 2015-09-12 17:07 +0200
                Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-12 14:08 -0500
                  Re: SR is just another name for LET Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-12 20:07 +0000
                    Re: SR is just another name for LET JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 13:50 -0700
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-12 21:25 +0000
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-13 10:21 +0200
                    Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-12 19:45 -0500
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-13 06:00 -0700
                        Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-13 09:14 -0500
                          Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-13 09:12 -0700
                            Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-13 16:34 -0700
                            Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 12:50 -0500
                              Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-14 16:20 -0500
                                Re: SR is just another name for LET Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-14 23:26 +0200
                                Re: SR is just another name for LET Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-14 22:36 +0000
                                Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-15 07:01 -0700
                                  Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 09:11 -0500
                                    Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-15 08:00 -0700
                                      Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 10:15 -0500
                                        Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-15 13:40 -0700
                                          Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 16:21 -0500
                                            Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-16 06:28 -0700
                                              Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 11:15 -0500
                                                Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 11:36 -0700
                                                  Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-16 16:22 -0700
                                                    Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 19:03 -0500
                                                      Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-17 08:18 -0700
                                                        Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 10:32 -0500
                                                          Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-17 08:43 -0700
                                                            Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:16 -0500
                                                    Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 19:04 -0700
                                                      Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-17 08:20 -0700
                                                    Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-17 07:09 -0700
                                                Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-16 16:21 -0700
                                      Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 08:30 -0700
                                Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-15 14:43 -0700
                              Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-15 06:51 -0700
                                Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 09:10 -0500
                          Re: SR is just another name for LET Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-13 20:49 +0200
                          Re: SR is just another name for LET Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 00:20 -0700
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-13 14:37 +0000
                  Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-13 11:17 -0700
                  Re: SR is just another name for LET wugi <brol@brol.be> - 2015-09-13 21:15 +0200
                    Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-13 15:46 -0500
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-14 09:17 -0700
                  Re: SR is just another name for LET Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 00:16 -0700
                    Re: SR is just another name for LET kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-14 03:53 -0400
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-14 07:15 -0700
                        Re: SR is just another name for LET kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-14 11:12 -0400
                          Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-14 10:18 -0700
                            Re: SR is just another name for LET kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-14 16:37 -0400
                    Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-14 12:55 -0500
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-14 11:13 -0700
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-14 22:08 +0200
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 23:25 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 14:03 -0700
                  Re: SR is just another name for LET wugi <brol@brol.be> - 2015-09-15 18:42 +0200
                    Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 11:46 -0700
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET wugi <brol@brol.be> - 2015-09-16 16:10 +0200
                        Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 08:15 -0700
            Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-07 10:38 -0700
              Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 12:55 -0700
            Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-08 10:23 -0500
              Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 09:29 -0700
              Re: SR is just another name for LET Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2015-09-08 10:44 -0600
                Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 10:11 -0700
                  Stephane Baune poser strikes again "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-09-08 11:30 -0700
                  Re: SR is just another name for LET Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2015-09-08 12:50 -0600
                    Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 12:23 -0700
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2015-09-08 13:46 -0600
                        Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 13:02 -0700
                          Re: SR is just another name for LET Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2015-09-08 15:27 -0600
                            Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 09:10 -0500
                              Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-09 08:05 -0700
                                Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-10 23:52 -0500
                                  Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-11 08:33 -0700
                                    Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-11 13:53 -0500
                                      Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-11 14:11 -0700
                        Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-10 23:50 -0500
                          Re: SR is just another name for LET Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2015-09-11 11:02 -0600
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-08 13:26 -0700
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-10 23:39 -0500
                        Re: SR is just another name for LET JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 23:00 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-08 20:47 +0200
                  Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-08 14:23 -0500
                    Re: SR is just another name for LET Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2015-09-08 15:36 -0600
            Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 13:55 -0500
          Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-07 10:58 -0700
            Re: SR is just another name for LET kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-07 14:56 -0400
              Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-07 12:29 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-07 16:39 -0400
                  Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-08 10:05 -0700
      Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-06 17:35 -0700
        Re: SR is just another name for LET Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-06 22:22 -0500
          Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-07 06:21 -0700
            Re: SR is just another name for LET kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-07 09:35 -0400
              Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 06:42 -0700
            Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 13:38 -0500
            Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 13:39 -0500
              Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-09 08:36 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 10:50 -0500
                  Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-09 20:23 -0700
                    Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 20:30 -0700
                    Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 08:01 -0500
                      Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-11 09:53 -0700
                        Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 12:07 -0500
                          Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 10:54 -0700
                          Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-11 14:24 -0700
                            Re: SR is just another name for LET alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-11 14:48 -0700
                            Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 16:48 -0500
                              Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-12 06:10 -0700
                                Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 22:13 -0500
                        Re: SR is just another name for LET rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 10:45 -0700
        Re: SR is just another name for LET Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 13:35 -0500
          Re: SR is just another name for LET kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-09 08:41 -0700
    SR is just another name for LET fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-16 06:50 -0700
      Re: SR is just another name for LET kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-16 10:59 -0400
        Re: SR is just another name for LET fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-16 11:24 -0700

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#363816

On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 1:07:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/11/2015 11:53 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 9:01:46 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 9/9/2015 10:23 PM, kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 11:50:03 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> On 9/9/2015 10:36 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 2:39:53 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> On 9/7/2015 8:21 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>> Tom bullying doesn't work. The problem is that you are unwilling to learn any new and
> >>>>>>> improved alternatives to SR. That's not characteristic of a good scientist.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ken, you are under the impression that being a good scientist means
> >>>>>> learning all new ideas that come across the desk. According to you,
> >>>>>> unless a person learns all new ideas that come across the desk, he is
> >>>>>> not a good scientist.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bullying in combination with dismisssing new idea by hand waving is not a good scientist.
> >>>>> ...Tom and you exihibit these bad characteristics.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You are complaining that you do not get the attention you desire. You
> >>>> believe that anyone that is a good scientist would give you the
> >>>> attention you desire and that anyone that doesn't give you that
> >>>> attention is not a good scientist.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry, but you do not have the right to attention.
> >>>>
> >>>> You don't have the right to attention because you have not invested any
> >>>> of the required effort to earn that attention. You have not even studied
> >>>> elementary physics, and you have not bothered to learn basic arithmetic
> >>>> skills. Instead, you have simply declared those things are not important
> >>>> and declared that you are competent anyway. Such a person has not earned
> >>>> attention.
> >>>
> >>> i am not asking for your or Tom's attention. I object to your and Tom's bullying attitude.
> >>
> >> You are complaining about us dismissing your new idea. That is the same
> >> as not giving you any attention.
> >
> > Hey idiot....In this thread We were not talking about my new idea. We were taklking that SR
> > is just another name for LET. Tom and you tried to bully me to accept that SR is based on
> > symmetry.
> 
> What SR is based on is a matter of historical fact. As SR was developed, 
> the conceptual foundations were described in the papers by the people 
> that developed it. All of this is a matter of historical record.
> 
> If you don't accept what's in the historical record, that's up to you. 
> You might as well claim that World War II didn't happen and that anyone 
> who says otherwise is bullying you.
> 
> > ....I said that SR symmstry is assumed. Why? because a clock moving with the accelerated
> > particle runs at different rate than the lab clock and thus there is no symmetry exists
> > between the lab frame and the accelerated particle frame.
> 
> I don't think you have the foggiest idea what Tom or I are saying when 
> we say symmetry. We're talking about Lorentz symmetry, and Lorentz 
> symmetry doesn't mean that everything is the same in two different 
> frames. YOU think that symmetry means everything is the same in two 
> different frames. If you don't know what meaning is attached to the 
> words that Tom uses, then please don't make up something else.

No idiot....As far as I know Lorentz symmstry mean the same set of LT equations are used by all inertial observers. This symmetry is assumed from the PoR. I said that this symmetry is not valid because a clock moving along the accelerated particle will run at different intrinsic rate than the clock at rest in the lab.

> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So how is that you have not learned all the alternative ideas that have
> >>>>>> been explained in the NPA proceedings? Are you not a good scientist?
> >>>>
> >>>> Well? Have you learned all the alternative ideas that have been
> >>>> explained in NPA proceedings? Yes or no?
> >>
> >> You see? You are no scientist, because you do not learn other people's
> >> ideas.
> 
> Still not a scientist, I see.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#363821

W dniu piątek, 11 września 2015 23:24:31 UTC+2 użytkownik kenseto napisał:

> As far as I know Lorentz symmstry mean the same set of LT equations are used by all inertial observers.

No. In the LET there is no any SR symmety.

Your pseudosymetry is just the algebra: of these 4-vectors...
btw. which has been discovered by Poincare,
not by any uneducated stupid einstein, nor by his teacher: anext stupid Mincowski.

> This symmetry is assumed from the PoR.

There is no any your stupid PoR in reality.

The equations can just preserve what you want - it's your ability only.

> I said that this symmetry is not valid because a clock moving along the accelerated particle will run at different intrinsic rate than the clock at rest in the lab.

Rather wrong. The local time is simply:
sqrt(1-v^2) dt, for any motion: v = v(t);
... but under one additional condition:
the v is not a relativistic number. :))))))))

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#363822

On 9/11/2015 4:24 PM, kenseto wrote:
> No idiot....As far as I know Lorentz symmstry mean the same set of LT equations are used by all inertial observers.

Then you, sadly, don't known what Lorentz symmetry means at all.
It would help a lot if you wouldn't just guess what terms mean, like 
Lorentz symmetry.

Or reference frame.

Or acceleration.

Or lots of things like that.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#363876

On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 5:48:44 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/11/2015 4:24 PM, kenseto wrote:
> > No idiot....As far as I know Lorentz symmstry mean the same set of LT equations are used by all inertial observers.
> 
> Then you, sadly, don't known what Lorentz symmetry means at all.
> It would help a lot if you wouldn't just guess what terms mean, like 
> Lorentz symmetry.

How do we know that you know what Lorentz symmetry mean? 

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#364042

On 9/12/2015 8:10 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 5:48:44 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 9/11/2015 4:24 PM, kenseto wrote:
>>> No idiot....As far as I know Lorentz symmstry mean the same set of LT equations
>>> are used by all inertial observers.
>>
>> Then you, sadly, don't known what Lorentz symmetry means at all.
>> It would help a lot if you wouldn't just guess what terms mean, like
>> Lorentz symmetry.
>
> How do we know that you know what Lorentz symmetry mean?
>
>

You won't, because you don't read the books. But anybody who has will agree.

You'll NEVER know what Lorentz symmetry means, because you don't read.

So don't bother trying.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#363787

On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 12:53:25 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 9:01:46 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:


>  Tom and you tried to bully me to accept that SR is based on symmetry.

Yes, everyone (except for me) is bullying you. I will tell them to stop, ok?

> I said that SR symmstry is assumed. 

The modern approach to SR is symmetry; every model is based on a few definitions or 'axioms'.This is true for your theory, as it is for SR or QM. In SR, the 'symmetry' is an axiom; thats the relativity principle. And when you assume that, you discover those 'Laws' that remain the same for all observers. It so happens that this approach, that this axiom of symmetry, implies eqs that are validated by actual exp's. 

> a clock moving with the accelerated particle runs at different 
> rate than the lab clock and thus there is no symmetry exists 
> between the lab frame and the accelerated particle frame. 

'symmetry' doesnt mean that *everything* be the same for all. It means that *some* things are the same for all. A square is symmetric, meaning that is has *some* symmetry; a square is not completely symmetric. 

Now, stop bullying ME and post a link to your theory. 

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#363486

On 9/6/2015 7:35 PM, kenseto wrote:
> Wrong..... the SR symmetry never been observed experimentally.

Don't be silly. Lorentz symmetry has been observed scores of times 
experimentally.

Why do you make up facts when you are just ignorant of them?

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#363563

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 2:35:43 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/6/2015 7:35 PM, kenseto wrote:
> > Wrong..... the SR symmetry never been observed experimentally.
> 
> Don't be silly. Lorentz symmetry has been observed scores of times 
> experimentally.

No Lorentz symmetry is assumed. Why? It is not possible to test the Lorentz Symmetry from the accelerated particle's point of view......a clock moving along with the particle would run at a different intrinsic rate.

> 
> Why do you make up facts when you are just ignorant of them?
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#364274

SR just combined general relativity with a  varying vacuum impedance to time dilation 
looks pretty simple

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#364276

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 06:50:16 -0700 (PDT), fuller.david@hotmail.com
wrote:

>SR just combined general relativity with a  varying vacuum impedance to time dilation 
>looks pretty simple

      More nonsense from a simpleton, SR existed before GR,
so how could your stupid claim happen?


      Please start your own subject threads so they
are easier to delete and ignore.

      Vacuum impedance affects nothing but electric
and magnetic processes, it has no effect on motion
of matter or gravity.

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#364296

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 06:50:16 -0700 (PDT), fuller...@hotmail.com 
wrote: 

>SR just combined general relativity with a  varying vacuum impedance to time dilation 
>looks pretty simple 

      More nonsense from a simpleton, SR existed before GR, 
so how could your stupid claim happen? 


      Please start your own subject threads so they 
are easier to delete and ignore. 

      Vacuum impedance affects nothing but electric 
and magnetic processes, it has no effect on motion
of matter or gravity. 

Simpleton says...

Gravity is a variation of vacuum impedance between two different spatial locations. 

In reality not in theories , SR and GR are mediated with one another through a combination of time dilation and vacuum impedance. 
Which would make gravity electromagnetic 

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