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Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment

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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> writes:

>Tom Roberts wrote:
>> On 11/11/18 6:19 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>> [...] for *the same* photon, [...]
>>> Also, a photon can interact with matter and give off a part of its energy in
>>> in inelastic scattering (e.g. Raman or Compton scattering), [...]
>> 
>> This is problematic for several reasons:
>>   1) One cannot possibly identify "the same" photon, because photons are
>>      Bosons.

>Irrelevant.  This was not the description of an experimental setup.  Stop
>trying to impose your interpretations on the world.

But if it's part of the Bose-Einstein statistics for bosons (I don't know)
then it is true.

>> For light from distant astronomical objects observed on earth, the 
>> probability of scattering is very small, until it enters the atmosphere. 
>> We are fortunate that for visible light the scattering in the atmosphere 
>> is rare,

>Complete nonsense.  The sky assumes colors from bluish to reddish, and lunar
>eclipses are reddish, because there is *a lot* of scattering of visible
>light by the atmosphere.  Even the night sky turns blue in long exposure
>photography.

The point seems to have been that MOST light is not scattered at all. 
Because of this, we see individual stars, and we see a yellowish sun and a
blue sky, not a brilliant white sky with no discernable solar disk, or 
stars.

Also the scattering is something like proportional to f^4, very frequency
dependent. Which is why the sky is blue and the sun is reddish at sunset
and lunar eclipses are reddish.

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Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-10 02:09 -0800
  Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-10 04:06 -0800
  Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-10 14:56 +0100
  Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment Gaston Castaneda <ucpp@java2osw.np> - 2018-11-10 20:10 +0000
  Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-11 02:03 -0800
    Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-11 12:18 +0100
      Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-11 03:25 -0800
    Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-11 03:51 -0800
      Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-11 13:19 +0100
        Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-11 04:30 -0800
        Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-11 08:51 -0600
          Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-11 16:14 +0100
            Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-11 16:11 +0000
            Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-12 00:31 -0600
    Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-12 01:04 -0800
  Re: Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves in LIGO's GW170817 Experiment Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 12:24 +0000

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