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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole |
| Date | 2018-10-08 13:21 +0000 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <ppfll6$moq$2@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > On 10/7/18 7:54 PM, Omar Shabsigh wrote: >> As far there is a force acting on a body, it will go on accelerating >> even beyond the speed of light. > > This is just plain not true in the world we inhabit. It is OBSERVABLY > wrong -- demonstrated daily at particle accelerators around the world. > >> The reason we cannot >> detect bodies traveling beyond the speed of light is exactly that, >> meaning we cannot see them because our eyes detect light only. > > This is completely irrelevant -- elementary particles are not visible to > our eyes, except in special circumstances that are usually very > dangerous for the human. We can place detectors into a particle > accelerator or beamline and measure the particles' speed. They NEVER go > significantly faster than c, regardless of how much they are > accelerated. These detectors are NOT limited by the speed of light. And even more importantly, they don’t “disappear” from view as Omar suggests. They are still there. Going at speeds less than c. Measured. > > The world is more complicated than you think. Just making up fantasies > and pretending they are true is useless. > > Tom Roberts > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-29 13:39 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Hilton Packett <wod@wcotahr.ce> - 2018-09-30 00:06 +0000
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-29 20:44 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 21:32 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-30 11:13 +0200
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 13:04 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-30 16:25 -0500
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-01 04:33 +0200
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 20:00 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Hilton Packett <wod@wcotahr.ce> - 2018-10-01 22:40 +0000
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 09:41 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Hilton Packett <wod@wcotahr.ce> - 2018-10-01 22:32 +0000
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-01 15:41 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-07 16:47 +0200
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 10:29 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-07 10:39 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 12:24 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-07 18:03 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 22:19 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tc> - 2018-10-08 23:14 +0000
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-07 11:44 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 12:25 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-08 00:19 +0200
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 22:32 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tc> - 2018-10-08 23:18 +0000
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-01 08:37 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-01 22:34 -0500
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-02 10:34 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:24 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-02 16:28 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-03 03:10 +0200
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 19:37 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-02 19:58 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 20:03 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-02 20:09 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-03 15:30 +0000
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-03 08:32 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-03 09:42 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 10:01 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 12:29 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-03 13:49 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 13:56 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-03 17:13 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-04 08:50 -0400
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 14:08 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-04 15:12 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 15:27 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-04 15:56 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 19:27 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-03 13:29 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 14:23 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-04 15:16 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 19:33 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-05 09:35 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 10:37 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-05 11:27 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 13:24 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-05 18:27 +0000
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 10:36 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 22:33 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-08 13:16 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-04 08:42 -0400
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-04 10:40 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-01 09:10 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-07 15:38 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-08 01:19 +0200
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tc> - 2018-10-08 17:28 +0000
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-07 18:04 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 17:54 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-07 23:52 -0500
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 13:21 +0000
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-08 16:34 +0000
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 09:41 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-08 16:58 +0000
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 12:39 -0700
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tc> - 2018-10-08 20:09 +0000
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-08 17:00 +0000
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-08 19:38 +0200
Re: Freefall reaches light speed at a black hole Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 18:04 -0700
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