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Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics

From "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics
Date 2016-08-24 06:51 +1000
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On 24/08/16 00:51, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 8/20/16 8/20/16 - 3:51 PM, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:
>> Do you think any wavelength is known to better than 9 figures?
>
> Yes. You merely display your personal ignorance. AGAIN.
>
> "The sharpest transition in atomic hydrogen occurs between the
> metastable 2S state and the 1S ground state. Its transition frequency
> has now been measured with almost 15 digits accuracy using an optical
> frequency comb and a cesium atomic clock as a reference" [1].
>
>      [1] Beyer et al, "Precision Spectroscopy of Atomic Hydrogen",
>      21st International Conference on Laser Spectroscopy -
>      ICOLS 2013 9–14 June 2013, University of California, Berkeley,
>      California, USA
>
> Since the speed of light is defined exactly, this gives almost 15 digits
> accuracy in the wavelength of the light emitted from this transition.

Maybe...but as I understand it, the atomic clock uses an absorption 
technique and because the frequency of light as defined by c/lambda is 
far too high to be countable directly it uses a counter that relies on 
the accuracy of a frequency reduction circuit.

>> [... further nonsense and idiocies]
>
> BTW this also refutes your oft-repeated claim that the frequency of
> light cannot be measured.

On reading about frequency combs, I received the distinct impression 
that the 'beating' was actually between two wavelengths and not 
frequencies. The latter was still inferred by employing a term of the 
form c/L

> Tom Roberts
>

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Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-16 13:41 -0700
  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-16 16:35 -0500
    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-08-17 08:31 +1000
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-17 05:27 +0000
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-17 11:07 -0500
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-17 23:35 -0700
    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-17 08:35 +0200
    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-18 10:38 -0700
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 13:12 -0500
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-18 14:56 -0500
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-19 06:45 +1000
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-18 15:23 -0700
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 15:42 -0700
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-18 23:23 -0700
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-18 20:03 -0500
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-20 08:19 +1000
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 16:02 -0700
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-19 16:35 -0700
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-21 06:51 +1000
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-23 09:51 -0500
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-24 06:51 +1000
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-24 11:24 -0500
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-25 03:43 +1000
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 16:12 -0700
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-25 20:06 +1000
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 16:37 -0700
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-25 20:47 +1000
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 05:58 -0700
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-27 08:13 +1000
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 15:40 -0700
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-29 06:04 +1000
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-21 23:14 -0700
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-20 10:05 -0500
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-21 06:54 +1000
  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-08-17 08:14 +1000
  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-17 08:30 +0200

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