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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity, sci.math |
| Subject | Re: What amount of acceleration involved is too high for SR to apply? |
| Date | 2026-08-10 05:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ndsvgnFs12cU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Am Sonntag000009, 09.08.2026 um 19:55 schrieb Ross Finlayson: > On 08/09/2026 07:18 AM, Beau Holmogorov wrote: >> Thomas Heger wrote: >> >>>> this stupid half german doesnt even know what a magnitude, direction >>>> and a vector is, nor what a rate of change in that direction is. How >>>> would you know all that without a reference, idiot >>> >>> >>> Actually I'm against vectors and wanted to replace them with >>> quaternions. >> >> my man, quaternions without references, just another thing you dont >> undrestand. Draw a quaternion on a piece of paper, tell me what you got. >> They also are crashing for tan and cot, making them useless in physics >> >> ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⠁⠄⠄⠄⠄⣠⣤⣴⣶⣶⣶⣶⣤⡀⠈⠙⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ >> ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⣸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣆⠄⠈⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ >> ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠁⠄⠄⠄⢀⣴⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠄⠄⢺⣿⣿⣿⣿ >> ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⠄⠄⠄⠙⠻⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⠿⠛⠛⠻⣿⡄⠄⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿ >> ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠄⠄⠁ 👁️ ⠄⢹⣿⡗⠄ 👁️ ⢄⡀⣾⢀⣿⣿⣿ >> ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠘⠄⠄⠄⢀⡀⠄⣿⣿⣷⣤⣤⣾⣿⣿⣿⣧⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ >> ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠄⣰⣿⡿⠟⠃⠄⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡛⠿⢿⣿⣷⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ >> ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⠈⠁⠄⠄⠄⠄⠻⠿⢛⣿⣿⠿⠂⠄⢹⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ >> ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡐⠐⠄⠄⣠⣀⣀⣚⣯⣵⣶⠆⣰⠄⠞⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ >> ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⡄⠄⠄⠈⠛⠿⠿⠿⣻⡏⢠⣿⣎⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ >> ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠟⠛⠄⠄⠄⠄⠙⣛⣿⣿⣵⣿⡿⢹⡟⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ >> > > > "Triality is quadratic", is what Lounesto used to say, > and it's about that usual accounts of the "complex" or > "hypercomplex" analysis are two different things, though > one imagines that the imaginary terms are not alike, > that quaternions ijk are not the same as complex i, > then that as modeling "rotations and reflections" that > the usual use of the quaternion is more "Cartanian" > about reflections and rotations, than "deMoivre-Euler-Gaussian", > the usual accont of complex analysis, which is just a branch, > and makes for distinctness results, not uniqueness results. > I was actually playing around with the Dinkin diagram D_4, which is representing 'triality', and tried to connect that with physics. look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triality and this file file:///C:/Users/admin/Downloads/3FlavoursNeutrinoOscillationHiggsVEV.pdf (and at my 'book': https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing ) Th > The other day I was watching a math stream and the fellow > was working out deriving Euler's identity. Anyway at > some point he got to working on establishing the "existence > and uniqueness of inverse multiplication" or division, in > complex numbers. So, then working through his example, > as he put it, "messy elimination" of that the existence > is easy to figure out yet the uniqueness of quotients > is an _axiom_ since they are left-complex and right-complex > quotients, to begin, the usual idea that complex division > is unique is as closed-minded as that there are no square > roots of negative numbers, nor even negative numbers, > nor even numbers. > > So, Euler & Gauss is not the only game in town, > and Cartan has his own sorts of rules. > > Usual accounts of the "almost" and "very" are > as much "not-quite" as "close-enough". Then, > people with their Hilbert problems and Millenium > problems and "solve the Riemann problem" make > for that maybe they want to "un-solve" it first. > >
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