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Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox
Date 2016-04-04 01:03 +0000
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Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> writes:

>On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 1:54:40 PM UTC+1, Paul B. Andersen wrote:

>> > The second diagram and figures shows the point of view of A.
>>
>> No it doesn't. Not even close!
>> What you have missed is that A isn't inertial, he is accelerating.

>Nope, that is not the problem.

It most certainly is.  The "stationary" observer is constantly 
accelerating as it is moving circularly.  While position and velocity in
SR are relative, acceleration is not.

>  This is simply collinear motion,

It most certainly is not! The  "stationary" observer is under constant 
acceleration by moving circularly.

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Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-03-29 04:40 -0700
  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-29 14:54 +0200
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-04-03 15:13 -0700
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-04 01:03 +0000
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 20:57 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 22:14 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 10:53 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 11:24 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 23:44 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-05 02:05 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-05 02:51 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-05 02:58 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-05 04:08 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-05 04:25 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-05 04:41 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-05 05:14 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-05 05:46 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-05 06:46 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-04-05 20:54 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-05 12:45 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-05 23:17 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-06 06:41 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-06 07:56 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-06 09:00 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-06 09:54 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-06 11:51 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 11:29 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-06 12:01 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 14:33 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-09 10:17 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 15:45 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-10 12:08 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-03 23:48 -0700
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-04 20:22 +0200
  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-03-29 06:45 -0700
  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-29 08:18 -0700
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-29 11:17 -0700
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-29 11:54 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-29 21:50 +0200
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-29 22:09 +0200
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-29 13:11 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-29 22:43 +0200
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-29 14:24 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 15:58 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-29 23:15 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 00:07 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-30 00:51 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 01:45 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-30 02:06 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 02:35 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-30 03:00 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 03:11 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-30 03:21 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 03:43 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-30 03:53 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 04:34 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-03-30 04:43 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-30 05:31 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:08 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 12:21 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 14:48 -0500
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-30 23:39 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-30 22:34 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 14:36 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-30 23:17 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 00:04 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-31 00:15 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 00:30 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-30 05:29 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 12:13 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-30 22:30 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 13:35 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-30 22:53 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 14:39 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-30 23:23 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 00:06 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-31 00:23 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 00:42 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-31 00:56 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 11:11 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-31 22:10 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 13:50 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-31 23:03 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 15:01 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-31 23:09 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 00:11 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-01 00:34 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-01 14:53 +0000
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-04-01 17:55 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-01 18:44 +0000
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-04-01 21:02 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-04 01:10 +0000
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 10:30 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-01 10:38 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 13:36 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-04 11:41 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 15:02 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-04 23:01 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 00:27 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-05 00:52 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-01 15:37 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-04-01 21:10 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Bimpy <pimp@pimp.com> - 2016-04-01 19:15 +0000
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 13:38 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-04-02 09:05 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-31 14:42 +0000
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 02:45 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 12:10 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 12:07 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-30 22:26 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-29 23:25 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-30 10:30 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 10:48 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-31 07:20 -0700

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