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Re: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC
Date 2026-07-05 06:27 +0200
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Am Samstag000004, 04.07.2026 um 19:51 schrieb Maciej Woźniak:
> On 7/4/2026 5:14 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Donnerstag000002, 02.07.2026 um 19:10 schrieb Maciej Woźniak:
>>> On 7/2/2026 7:05 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>> Den 02.07.2026 15:58, skrev Maciej Woźniak:
>>>>> On 7/2/2026 3:12 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The subject line "2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC"
>>>>>> could be the UTC time displayed on a GPS receiver.
>>>>>> The display would obviously not show the seconds with
>>>>>> so many digits, even if the receiver knows the UTC-time
>>>>>> with 1ns precision.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ever heard about a thing called "calendar",
>>>>> poor trash?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So you found this:
>>>>   "2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC"
>>>> on a calendar?
>>>>
>>>> :-D
>>>
>>> No. There are 2 parts here, one is from the
>>> calendar, the other (less significant)
>>> is from a clock.
>>> And as a general rule - time is bound to
>>> the solar cycles, and so are clocks. Without
>>> it they wouldn't be "clocks" anymore.
>>>
>>>
>> NO, please!!!
>>
>> Time is not bound to clocks and not to our central star!
> 
> Yes, it is. Surprise!
> 

You need to distinguish between a measure and a measuring device!

A device is a man-made machine, while the quantity it measures is a 
feature of nature.

Now it makes no sense at all to assume, that nature creates quantities 
for especially for our own species, our own planet or even our own solar 
system.


> 
>> What we call 'time' is more or less our local impresson of something, 
>> which is a feature of nature.
> 
> Oppositely. Your concept of time - Great Mystical
> Youdontknowwhat is a impression of what we call
> time.
> Something like "a perfect rod". Nothing like that
> ever existed, but when dealing with real rods
> you're getting a concept of that.
> 

Our concept of time is usually based on things, which are common to us 
on planet Earth.

But why should nature care about our home planet?

The universe is HUGE and contains zillions of other stars and planets 
and will most likely not create concepts like time individually for each 
planet.


TH

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2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-07-02 10:38 +0200
  Re: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-07-02 15:12 +0200
    Re: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-07-02 15:58 +0200
      Re: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-07-02 19:05 +0200
        Re: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-07-02 19:10 +0200
          Re: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-07-04 17:14 +0200
            Re: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-07-04 19:51 +0200
              Re: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-07-05 06:27 +0200
                Re: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-07-05 07:12 +0200
                Re: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC Errol Dudnakov <rode@odr.ru> - 2026-07-07 21:03 +0000
        Re: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC Rayner Balanovsky <vykkrl@osvkov.ru> - 2026-07-03 16:06 +0000
          GNSS (was: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-07-08 04:54 +0200
            Re: GNSS (was: 2026-07-02 15:00:00.000000000 UTC) Bowen Truhanov <oh@eeooono.ru> - 2026-07-08 13:24 +0000

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