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Re: The SI second and GNSSs

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The SI second and GNSSs
Date 2026-03-26 12:26 +0100
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Am Montag000023, 23.03.2026 um 20:42 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
> The 'nym-shifting troll quoted nonsense as "Jaymie Balashov":
> 
>> Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>> On 3/23/2026 1:07 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>>> That's right - the clocks made for serious measurements are adjusted
>>>>>> (calibrated) to count seconds of 1/86400 of a mean solar day.
>>>>                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> No, they do NOT, since the 1960 *redefinition* of the SI second.
>>>
>>> Yes, they do -
> 
> So atomic clocks are not clocks "made for serious measurements"? :-D
> 
>> and fuck the 1960 *redefinition* of SI second.
> 
> Before 1960, the SI second was defined as 1/86400 of a mean solar day, as
> one can read (for free!) in the (publicly available!) SI Brochure:
> 
> <https://www.bipm.org/en/publications/si-brochure>

That old definition has a very serious disadvantage:

as proponent of the so called 'Growing Earth theory', I would expect the 
day to become longer over long periods of time.

Also the solar year would get longer and we had less days per year in 
ancient times.


As far as I know the ancient egyptians had only 360 days per year, which 
were also shorter than ours today.

That's why a different definition, which is not based upon planet Earth 
would be a good idea.

But the question remains, whether or not other frequencies were effected 
by the same mechanism, which makes the Earth grow, too.

The question is, if matter could 'age' or get 'transmutated' over time 
or whether the emissions of a certain element are influenced by gravity 
or the actual size of the Earth.

This is very hard to measure, because we would need something else, 
which is known to be stable over time and independent from time itself, 
thus provide countable events at an absolute and stable rate.

But the existance of any such phenomenon is hard to prove, because we 
can't prove, that such a time piece measures 'absolute time'.

TH

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  Re: Tho old definition of second is winning against SI idiocy Frankiie Katrina <tknfnn@et.net> - 2026-03-22 20:59 +0000
    The SI second and GNSSs (was: Tho old definition of second is winning against SI idiocy) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-23 01:07 +0100
      Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-23 06:58 +0100
        Re: The SI second and GNSSs Jaymie Balashov <ah@allae.ru> - 2026-03-23 17:05 +0000
          Re: The SI second and GNSSs Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-23 20:42 +0100
            Re: The SI second and GNSSs August Pálinkás <pg@dts.hu> - 2026-03-23 20:06 +0000
            Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-23 23:48 +0100
            Re: The SI second and GNSSs Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-26 12:26 +0100
              Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-26 13:42 +0100
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-26 13:45 +0100
              Re: The SI second and GNSSs Holden Lénárt <nwlh@enh.hu> - 2026-03-26 21:08 +0000
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-27 03:17 +0100
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-27 07:26 +0100
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-31 20:29 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-31 21:30 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-03-31 20:35 +0000
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-31 23:04 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-04-01 13:36 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-01 13:50 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-04-01 22:48 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-02 00:02 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-04-02 12:34 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-02 15:47 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-04-02 22:22 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-02 23:49 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-03 07:43 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-04-02 03:05 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-02 08:31 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-04-02 13:26 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-02 15:53 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-04-02 22:25 +0200
                Re: The SI second and GNSSs Raven Wojewódzki <veai@wawwk.pl> - 2026-03-28 14:20 +0000
      Re: The SI second and GNSSs (was: Tho old definition of second is winning against SI idiocy) Velislav Barbi <ebvel@vvvl.net> - 2026-03-23 16:57 +0000
      Re: The SI second and GNSSs Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-25 02:36 +0100
        Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-25 07:40 +0100
          Re: The SI second and GNSSs x <x@x.net> - 2026-03-25 10:30 -0700
            Re: The SI second and GNSSs Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-25 18:51 +0100
      Re: The SI second and GNSSs (was: Tho old definition of second is winning against SI idiocy) Robertson Zheltyannikov <kikeht@iha.ru> - 2026-03-26 21:12 +0000

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