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Re: Mass--energy equivalence

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Mass--energy equivalence
Date	2026-01-04 09:19 +0100
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Am Samstag000003, 03.01.2026 um 16:42 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
> Please trim your quotes to the relevant minimum, and set Followup-To when
> you crosspost.  F'up2 sci.physics.relativity is set.
> 
> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>> Am Freitag000002, 02.01.2026 um 11:12 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
>>>> On 01/01/2026 04:04 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>> Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>>>>>> Den 01.01.2026 10:34, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>>>>>> Investors of the foundations of atomic bombs were:
>>>>>>> Otto Hahn
>>>>>>> Marie Curie
>>>>>>> Leo Szillard
>>>>>>> Edward Teller
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't forget Lisa Meitner who worked together with Otto Hahn
>>>>>> before the war. Otto Hahn got the Nobel price in chemistry 1944,'
>>>>>> and many thought that it should be shared with Lisa Meitner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Read carefully.  It is claimed there that those people were
>>>>> *investors" of
>>>>> the foundations where those people.  It is not clear whether this is a
>>>>> mistake due to Thomas Heger's poor command of English, or whether this is
>>>>> another of his conspiracy theories.  But, JFTR, they were NOT *investors*
>>>>> (people who invest money into an enterprise or a valuable token), but
>>>>> _investigators_; better: _researchers_.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but that was one of these artefacts, which only auto-correction
>>> can produce.
>>>
>>> I meant, of course, 'inventors'.
>>>
>>> An inventor is the person, who first had a certain idea for something new.
>>>
>>> Here the foundation of nuclear energy were meant with 'invention'.
>>>
>>> 'Researcher' doesn't fit here, because I wanted to express, that those
>>> were the very people in history, who developed the foundations of
>>> nuclear energy.
>>>
>>> Sure, I forgot Lise Meitner and certainly several others. But that
>>> 'first' was my intention.
>>> [...]
>>> In my opinion the equation [E = m*c^2] is wrong.
>>
>> Your opinions count for nothing.

I make a statement and write, that the equation is wrong.

The reason:

the increase of energy in form of radiation in nuclear decay is 
acompanied with decrease of mass of the radioactive probe.

And because you cannot equate an increase and a decrease, the signs are 
wrong.

Also wrong in Einstein's equation is, that these quantities E and m are 
meant as absolute, while the nuclear decay does not show absolute 
values, but 'relative' ones.

'Relative values' means, that say a milligram is missing in the nuclear 
material of say 1 kg.

This is a change and not an absolute value.

How far down a nuclear decay can go, we do not know.

IOW: we cannot assume, that nuclear decay goes down to zero and makes a 
sample completely vanish.

Instead we have only missing material in the middle of a curve and 
cannot simply declar that curve to be linear.

This my opinion and for me it doesn't matter, whether you care or not.

...

TH

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                Re: Fwd: Einstein's God (a cosmic religion) is called Spinoza's God Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-01-03 12:54 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Einstein's God (a cosmic religion) is called Spinoza's God Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-01-03 16:41 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Einstein's God (a cosmic religion) is called Spinoza's God nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-01-03 20:48 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Einstein's God (a cosmic religion) is called Spinoza's God Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-01-03 21:59 +0100
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                Re: Mass--energy equivalence Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-01-03 21:50 +0100
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                Re: Mass--energy equivalence Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-01-08 15:24 +0100
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                Re: Mass--energy equivalence nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-01-08 22:28 +0100
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                Re: Mass--energy equivalence nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-01-08 12:32 +0100
                Re: Mass--energy equivalence Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-01-04 09:19 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Einstein's God (a cosmic religion) is called Spinoza's God Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-03 08:28 -0800
                Re: Fwd: Einstein's God (a cosmic religion) is called Spinoza's God nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-01-03 20:48 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Einstein's God (a cosmic religion) is called Spinoza's God Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 01:59 -0800
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                Re: Fwd: Einstein's God (a cosmic religion) is called Spinoza's God Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2026-01-03 18:49 +0000
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                Re: Fwd: Einstein's God (a cosmic religion) is called Spinoza's God Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-01-02 16:35 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Einstein's God (a cosmic religion) is called Spinoza's God "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-01-03 22:06 +0100
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                Re: Mass--energy equivalence and the atomic bomb "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-01-04 12:42 +0100
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                Re: Mass--energy equivalence and the atomic bomb "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-01-04 21:08 +0100
                Re: Mass--energy equivalence and the atomic bomb nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-01-05 13:17 +0100
              Re: Fwd: Einstein's God (a cosmic religion) is called Spinoza's God Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-01-02 10:33 +0100
      Re: Fwd: Einstein's God (a cosmic religion) is called Spinoza's God The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-30 15:44 -0800

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