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Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox
Date 2015-07-16 11:36 -0500
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On 7/16/2015 10:29 AM, benj wrote:
> On 07/16/2015 10:16 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/16/2015 4:05 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
>>> "Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
>>> news:d0otdmFdu7qU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On 16/07/2015 12:53 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>>> <http://seprogrammo.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/symmetric-twins-paradox.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I see is a description of an experiment, together with an
>>>> assertion as to the result of applying SR.
>>>
>>> That is correct: the result is obvious, the consequences are not
>>> obvious.
>>>
>>>> What I don't see is any math to support the assertion.
>>>>
>>>> If you had presented the math, we could point to the errors you've
>>>> made.
>>>
>>> This is not a maths forum: anyway, if you knew anything about special
>>> relativity, you would not need to ask.
>>
>> Julio, in order to work out the consequences of any physical theory, you
>> have to do the math. This is why math is part and parcel of physics. It
>> is simply not possible to competently work out the consequences of
>> relativity if you can't do the math of relativity. I think that's the
>> caution that Sylvia is putting out to you. If you now say that you don't
>> believe that math should be a required skill to work out the outcomes
>> and consequences of a theory, then it's quite likely you'll lose the
>> interest of your readers.
>
> Julio, Boinker can't understand that math is nothing but fantasy. It
> can't sink into his thick skull that when your assumptions are wrong,
> your math is "wrong" (but "right" as mathematics). He's just snowed.

Right. Like Newtonian math F=dp/dt and F_g = GMm/r^2 is fantasy and has 
nothing to do with reality.



-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 11:29 -0400
  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 11:36 -0500
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 16:33 -0400

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