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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 |
| Date | 2023-08-07 11:48 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <kjbsvsF2icaU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <2216b7d1-2fc4-431b-8674-8cec0a66fdden@googlegroups.com> |
On 2023-08-07 09:37:09 +0000, Pentcho Valev said: > "The concepts of time (spacetime) in quantum theory and GR are thus > drastically different and cannot both be fundamentally true." > http://hindawi.com/journals/isrn/2013/509316/ You realize, of course (no, I correct myself, you probably don't realize any such thing), that Hindawi journals are mainly junk journals for crackpots, and that few serious scientists would dream of publishing in them. > > So one is false but theoretical physicists would not discard it - > rather, they reconcile it with the true one (in Big Brother's world > theoreticians reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4): > > Natalie Wolchover: "The effort to unify quantum mechanics and general > relativity means reconciling totally different notions of time. In > quantum mechanics, time is universal and absolute; its steady ticks > dictate the evolving entanglements between particles. But in general > relativity (Albert Einstein's theory of gravity), time is relative and > dynamical, a dimension that's inextricably interwoven with directions > X, Y and Z into a four-dimensional "space-time" fabric." > https://www.quantamagazine.org/quantum-gravitys-time-problem-20161201/ > > Perimeter Institute: "Quantum mechanics has one thing, time, which is > absolute. But general relativity tells us that space and time are both > dynamical so there is a big contradiction there. So the question is, > can quantum gravity be formulated in a context where quantum mechanics > still has absolute time?" > https://www2.perimeterinstitute.ca/fr/research/conferences/convergence/roundtable-discussion-questions/what-are-lessons-quantum > > > Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev -- Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly in England until 1987.
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Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-07 02:37 -0700
Re: Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 11:48 +0200
Re: Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 03:00 -0700
Re: Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 Henry Marlovetsky <ylsm@vyytrlay.em> - 2023-08-07 11:23 +0000
Re: Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-07 05:55 -0700
Re: Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 04:38 -0700
Re: Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-08-07 10:16 -0700
Re: Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-07 12:31 -0500
Re: Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-08-07 10:14 -0700
Re: Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-07 12:20 -0500
Re: Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-07 10:28 -0700
Re: Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 13:41 -0700
Re: Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 21:13 -0700
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