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Re: If the Earth rotation has been slowing down

From Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: If the Earth rotation has been slowing down
Date 2023-06-16 18:46 +0200
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On 2023-06-16 16:38:50 +0000, patdolan said:

> On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 8:56:21 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2023-06-16 14:52:01 +0000, patdolan said:>> > On Friday, June 16, 
>> 2023 at 6:04:55 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:> >> On 
>> 2023-06-16 09:59:11 +0000, patdolan said:>> > On Thursday, June 15,> >> 
>> 2023 at 7:24:45 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:> >> On Thursday, June 15,> 
>> >> 2023 at 4:07:03 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:> > On> >> Wednesday, 
>> June 14,> >> 2023 at 9:22:56 PM UTC-7, Tom Roberts wrote:> > >> >> On 
>> 6/14/23 10:48> >> PM, patdolan wrote:> > > > the earth is not 4.5> >> 
>> billion [years> >> old]. Newton said the oceans are> > > > not salty> 
>> >> enough. Kelvin> >> said the earth is not cold enough. Gauss> > > > 
>> said the> >> earth is> >> too magnetic.> > > Wow! You are over a 
>> century out of date.> >> None of> >> those arguments hold up> > > 
>> today:> > > * Newton did not> >> account> >> for all the processes 
>> affecting the> > > salinity of the ocean,> >>> >> which has been 
>> approximately constant> > > for at least 1.5 billion> >>> >> years.> > 
>> > * Kelvin did not know about radioactive decay, which has>> >> >> 
>> been> > > heating the earth from inside.> > > * I'm not sure Gauss> >> 
>> ever> >> said that, but back then not enough> > > was known about the> 
>> >> earth's> >> internal structure.> > >> > > Radiometric dating shows 
>> the> >> earth is> >> indeed about 4.5 billion years old.> > >> > > Tom 
>> Roberts>> >> >> >> Radiometric dating also conclusively proves that all 
>> diamonds and> >> crude> >> oil are at most 50,000 years old.> >> Mitch 
>> my man, find> >> below a curated list of over 100 papers so far,> >> 
>> documenting soft> >> dinosaur tissue and other deep time> >> 
>> soft-paleo-tissue:>>> >>> >> 
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eXtKzjWP2B1FMDVrsJ_992ITFK8H3LXfPFNM1ll-Yiw/edit#gid=0>>>> 
>> >> >> Many of these soft specimens are over a billion years old. A new> 
>> >> theory> >> has been proposed that states the same chemical 
>> reactions> >> responsible> >> for destroying soft tissues are now also 
>> responsible> >> for preserving> >> soft tissue. This line of 
>> argumentation has a very> >> Einsteinian, very> >> relativistic ring to 
>> it. Don't you think?> >> >> >> Mitch, we know from the study of 
>> biological molecule half-lives that> >> >> the hundreds of instances of 
>> dinosaur soft tissue can be nowhere near>> >> > as old as the 
>> Lyellists, the Huttonists and the Darwinists claim. We>> >> > also have 
>> the mathematical demonstration from fine young, acclaimed,>> >> > and 
>> presumably atheist mathematicians ( here:> >> >> 
>> https://youtu.be/Fm0hOex4psA?t=974 ) that all people on earth today> >> 
>> are> > descended from a single mating pair of humans who lived around> 
>> >> the time> > of Noah.> >> Are you just making stuff up, or can you 
>> give references to serious>> >> studies of biological molecule 
>> half-lives? I suspect that you know as>> >> little about biological 
>> molecule half-lives as you do about physics.>>>> >> --> athel -- 
>> biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots> > Check my 
>> links, Athel. Check my links. Reputable scientists all.> > Athel, do 
>> you honestly ask this forum to believe that RBCs can last 75> > million 
>> years in situ?
>> A youtube video is not a reference that any serios person would cite.> 
>> As for the other, there are 122 publications, and I'm not going to> 
>> plough through all them to find which ones are the most important for> 
>> your claim. Please list ONE, maybe TWO, that you think convincing.
>> --
>> athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots
> 
> Athel, the soft tissue storm began in 2005.  Here is a link to a 
> popularized account for the benefit of others on this cite: 
> https://www.livescience.com/41537-t-rex-soft-tissue.html

I don't want a popularized account; I want a serious one. Is it really 
so difficult for you to give a proper reference?
> 
> Mary Switzer's discovery has lead to over 100 others.

You scholarly expertise is so impressive that you haven't managed to 
learn how to spell Schweitzer!

>   She faced more attacks on her work than J Harlen Bretz. I would 
> suggest you consult her seminal 2005 paper first.
> 
> It is a testament to the insular nature of your profession and it's 
> systemic immune response to narrative-destroying discoveries, that is 
> has taken you nearly 20 years to finally update yourself on state of 
> dinosaur soft tissue.  this article is 10 years old.  The iron-toast 
> theory mentioned in the article is now dead.


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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  Re: If the Earth rotation has been slowing down patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-14 20:48 -0700
    Re: If the Earth rotation has been slowing down Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-06-14 23:22 -0500
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        Re: If the Earth rotation has been slowing down patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-15 19:24 -0700
          Re: If the Earth rotation has been slowing down patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-16 02:59 -0700
            Re: If the Earth rotation has been slowing down Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 15:04 +0200
              Re: If the Earth rotation has been slowing down patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-16 07:52 -0700
                Re: If the Earth rotation has been slowing down Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 17:56 +0200
                Re: If the Earth rotation has been slowing down patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-16 09:38 -0700
                Re: If the Earth rotation has been slowing down Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 18:46 +0200
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                Re: If the Earth rotation has been slowing down "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 11:08 -0700
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