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Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth
Date 2018-06-11 11:30 +1000
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On 3/06/2018 9:26 AM, John Gogo wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 8:35:56 AM UTC-5, Edward Prochak wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 9:49:20 PM UTC-4, John Gogo wrote:
>>> The LED light source on the moon would have to be the size
>>> of a very large football field- even with our most powerful telescopes!
>>
>> What makes you think the communication will be "instantaneous"?
>>
>> The moon is roughly 380,000 km from the surface of the earth.
>> So light traveling from the moon to the earth will take
>>     (380,000,000 m) / (300,000,000 m/sec) = ~1.27 sec
>> to arrive at earth.
>>
>> Hardly instantaneous.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>    ed
> 
> You automatically believe that c in all forms of electromagnetic radiation, of which LIGHT is merely one identifiable description, travels at 300,000 m/s. This is what I have been trying to say- that light per se that we see of the object seen is instantaneous and does not require signaling devices which say that c always is restricted by its speed; hence, its distance.
> 

It is abundantly clear that our eyes respond to light in the visible 
part of the spectrum (it's almost a tautology). We even know the 
chemistry involved. Provide light in a previously dark room, and 
suddenly you can see. Stop providing it, and you cannot.

Experiments with visible light clearly show that it does not propagate 
instantaneously.

What possible line of reasoning could lead you to believe that seeing is 
instantaneous?

Sylvia.

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Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-02 16:26 -0700
  Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-03 01:49 +0200
  Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 09:45 -0700
    Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-04 19:19 -0700
    Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-07 18:29 -0700
  Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-06-11 11:30 +1000
    Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-11 17:14 -0700
      Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-06-12 14:33 +1000
      Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-11 23:59 -0500
        Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-12 18:39 -0700
          Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-06-13 13:16 +1000
            Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-06-13 14:48 +1000
              Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-13 18:59 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-13 19:19 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-06-14 13:13 +1000
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-14 18:55 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-06-16 09:14 +1000
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-15 19:05 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-15 19:24 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-15 19:39 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-16 20:11 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-16 20:31 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-06-17 14:42 +1000
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 18:23 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-18 17:39 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-18 19:09 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 09:55 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-20 15:46 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 10:10 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-25 19:14 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-25 19:23 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-06-25 22:38 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-30 21:02 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-06-30 21:28 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-30 22:02 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 17:04 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 18:34 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-01 19:43 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-01 12:20 +0200
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 17:04 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-02 03:55 +0200
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-01 19:39 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-02 04:42 +0200
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-01 19:51 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-02 05:04 +0200
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-01 20:58 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 20:26 -0700
          Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-12 22:18 -0500
            Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-13 19:23 -0700
              Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-02 04:37 +0200
            Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-16 20:20 -0700
              Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-02 04:40 +0200
          Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 08:35 -0700
            Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-18 17:33 -0700
              Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 10:26 -0700
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-19 17:32 +0000
                Re: To see instantaneously from the moon on Earth John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-20 16:12 -0700

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