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Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.sf.written, alt.astronomy
Subject Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole
Date 2017-08-26 09:45 +0200
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Am 23.08.2017 um 18:08 schrieb The Starmaker:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>> Am 19.08.2017 um 20:50 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 19.08.2017 um 19:55 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>>>> The Other Side of a Black Hole
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it appears that yous people
>>>>> have no idea what lies, or
>>>>> what it looks like at
>>>>> The Other Side of a Black Hole.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe yous are not allowed to think that far yet...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The 'other side of a black hole' is  -of course- a 'big bang'.
>>>>
>>>> That is obvious, if you extend the axis of time through the black hole.
>>>>
>>>> Then (on the other side) what vanishes into nowhere pops out of nowhere.
>>>> That is a black hole time reverted.
>>>>
>>>> TH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How did you manage to get that right so quickly right off the bat?
>>>
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Actually I have written kind of 'book' about it:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6
>>
>> (It is actually a google.doc presentation, not a book, but one day I
>> write a new version).
>>
>> The question I try to solve is how to connect relativity and Quantum
>> mechanics.
>>
>> The concept I call 'structured spacetime'. This includes a mechanism to
>> shift the axis of time into a spatial direction and what then happens to
>> matter.
>>
>> So a black hole is accompanied with a white hole 'on the other side'.
>>
>> TH
>
>
> A black hole is like night and day...
>
> nothing disapears
> when it enters a
> black hole..
> it just turns on the lights
> when it reaches the other side.
>


The 'big bang' is the spot in space and time, from where our universe 
came from.

It is somehow plausible, that spot had and opposite to big bang. That 
would be 'big crunch' and that's what black hole do.

Now draw the axis of time through this black hole and you end up on the 
other side with a big bang.

Best way to visualize this is actually a Minkowski diagram in 2+1 
dimensions, called 'light-cone'.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/World_line.svg/300px-World_line.svg.png

The tip of the past light cone points towards a spot on the hyperplane 
of the present and beyond this the cone expands again.

Now 2+1 is less then 3+1, what is actually needed. But we can turn 2+1 
into 3+1 by a certain operation: multiply the picture by three.

Now this would turn circles into spheres. The past light cone is 
actually a set of nested sphere, where further away is also further away 
in time.

Now this is the same thing, that Ptolomei called '(nested) crystal spheres'.

IOW: what we call 'universe' is in fact our own past light cone.

This originated from a spot somewhere remote, we call 'big bang'.

But this (our) 'universe' is not real and not universal. In fact it is 
OUR universe, that originated from OUR big bang.

Therefore that big bang must also be 'relative' - to us Earthlings - 
hence would match the description of what we call 'observer' or 'zero 
point', moving along the axis of time on the hyperplane of the present.

Now this big bang is accompanied with a past 'universe' that vanished 
into the supposed 'big crunch'.

But since this is all 'relative', there is no real effect visible, if 
you would go to such a location, and the same phenomenon would be seen, 
where you had been before.


TH

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The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-19 10:55 -0700
  Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-19 20:23 +0200
    Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-19 11:50 -0700
      Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-20 13:16 +0200
        Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-23 09:08 -0700
          Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-26 09:45 +0200
            Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-26 01:05 -0700
            Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 11:36 -0700
    Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 13:05 -0700
      Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-19 14:25 -0700
      Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 20:19 -0700
        Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 21:46 -0700
          Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 20:54 -0700
            Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-23 22:31 -0700
    Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-19 22:09 -0500
      Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-20 12:00 +0200
        Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-21 17:32 -0500
      Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 12:53 -0700
        Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 15:30 -0500
        Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-21 10:55 -0700
      Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-21 11:32 -0700
        Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-22 00:17 -0700
          Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-22 20:33 -0700
            Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-23 09:21 -0700
  Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2017-08-20 09:20 -0400
    Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-21 11:34 -0700
      Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-22 19:40 +0200
        Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-22 10:56 -0700
          Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-23 19:29 +0200
            Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 12:57 -0500
              Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-24 08:01 +0200
            Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-23 12:15 -0700
              Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-24 08:05 +0200
                Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-23 23:41 -0700
  Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-24 16:16 -0700

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