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Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book
Date 2017-07-13 11:39 +1000
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On 8/07/2017 10:05 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
> Relativity is well known for saying that all frames are equally valid and there is no absolute frame but this is demonstrably false.
> 
> 1. Rotation is with respect to an absolute frame roughly aligned with the aggregate mass of the universe. Google 'Newton's Bucket' or 'Mach's Principle'.
> 
> 2. Each of the space traveling twins  moves equal and opposite to the frame of the other but only one's clock time actually ran slower though both observed each other's clock time run slower during the movement.
> 
> Thus there are ACTUAL relativistic effects, and OBSERVATIONAL relativistic effects. A critical distinction not recognized by relativity itself.
> 
> Now the difference can only be that actual relativistic effects are with respect to a universal absolute background frame, whereas observational relativistic effects are with respect to an observer's own frame.
> 
> Now what is this absolute frame? There can be only one answer. It's the single computational frame within which everything is actually computed.
> 
> Thus there is a single computational frame in which everything is computed and this takes the form of a universal entanglement network that expresses the dimensional relations among all the particles in the universe resulting from the conservation of mass-energy in their interactions.
> 
> It's the dimensional consistency of this entanglement network that human observers interpret as an all encompassing spacetime in their mental simulations of reality.
> 
> This is all explained in detail in my new book Universal Reality 2.0 available under my name on Amazon.
> 
> Edgar L. Owen
> 

Hmm...

Looks like I can buy it from Amazon Australia, write a review of it, and 
then get refund under Australian consumer law on the grounds of 
misrepresentation.

Whether I an be bothered is a different matter.

Sylvia.

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Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-08 05:05 -0700
  Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 14:09 +0200
    Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-08 12:04 -0700
    Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Ursler Zilberschlag <ursler@zilbersch.org> - 2017-07-09 09:57 +0000
  Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-12 20:26 -0500
    Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-13 03:48 -0700
      Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-13 11:47 -0500
        Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-14 03:07 -0700
          Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-14 03:44 -0700
            Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-14 06:46 -0700
            Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-14 21:12 -0500
              Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-14 19:49 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-14 20:02 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-15 04:22 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-15 06:21 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-15 08:10 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-15 08:13 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-15 08:22 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-16 13:08 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Winfred Plumer <lewru@pulwr.cn> - 2017-07-16 18:15 +0000
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-17 10:57 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Winfred Plumer <lewru@pulwr.cn> - 2017-07-17 16:12 +0000
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-17 12:05 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-17 10:42 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Ustin Veterre <utve@nauoe.ct> - 2017-07-17 21:45 +0000
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2017-07-19 05:27 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-07-19 08:23 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2017-07-26 01:25 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-26 05:05 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-26 20:49 +0000
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-27 10:59 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-27 09:10 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-07-27 09:34 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 11:59 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-27 12:01 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 12:18 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-27 12:49 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 19:35 +0000
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-27 11:56 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-27 19:05 +0000
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 12:17 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-27 12:47 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 11:01 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-07-27 13:04 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 09:30 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 09:45 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-27 12:52 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-27 18:06 +0000
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 13:11 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-27 18:04 +0000
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-26 20:11 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-19 05:59 -0700
              Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-15 04:07 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-16 13:22 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-17 05:26 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-07-17 08:03 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Winfred Plumer <lewru@pulwr.cn> - 2017-07-17 15:59 +0000
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-17 11:37 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-18 04:30 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-18 12:55 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-18 11:41 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-18 22:59 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-19 05:13 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-25 10:00 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 10:23 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-25 22:04 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 07:16 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-26 20:21 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 07:15 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 13:54 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-25 21:51 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-18 11:56 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-18 12:14 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-18 13:55 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-18 23:30 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 01:05 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-19 04:23 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 11:37 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-19 11:42 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-19 13:25 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-25 10:40 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-25 17:57 +0000
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 11:38 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-25 19:12 +0000
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 14:21 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-28 20:44 +0000
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-25 22:05 -0500
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-19 12:56 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-07-19 22:13 +0200
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-19 14:49 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "Edgar L. Owen" <Edgar@edgarlowen.com> - 2017-07-19 13:44 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 13:52 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Ustin Veterre <utve@nauoe.ct> - 2017-07-20 16:58 +0000
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-19 22:04 -0500
          Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-14 21:05 -0500
            Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-18 12:08 -0700
              Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-18 13:22 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 20:45 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-27 00:04 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 09:09 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-27 11:55 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 12:16 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-27 12:47 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 13:59 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-27 23:03 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 10:57 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-29 00:56 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 11:01 -0700
                Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-07-28 12:23 -0700
              Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-19 12:38 -0700
        Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-17 15:55 -0700
          Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-17 23:25 -0700
          Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Kurt Larrabee <arb@twraa.ab> - 2017-07-22 12:29 +0000
  Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-13 11:39 +1000
  Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-07-13 12:49 -0700
  Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 11:21 -0700
    Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-25 11:28 -0700
    Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-25 22:12 -0500
      Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 08:22 -0700
        Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-26 20:35 -0500
          Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 12:13 -0700
            Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-29 11:50 -0500
              Re: Why there must be an absolute frame - New Book JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-29 13:30 -0700
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