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Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible

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On 11/01/2017 1:08 AM, Ned Latham wrote:
> mlwozniak wrote:
>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>> Sharilyn Vore wrote:
>>>>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ----snip----
>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you under the impression that arguing about semantics
>>>>>>> (or even just the meaning of words) contributes anything
>>>>>>> to our knowledge in this area?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not semantics, lady. Read again. The thing is absurd,
>>>>>> end of story.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're not advancing your position very much.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't beed "advancing".
>>>>
>>>>> What exactly is it that you think is absurd,
>>>>
>>>> The idea of time travel.
>>>>
>>>>> and why?
>>>>
>>>> Time is a noumenon, like number. It exists only in the mind of
>>>> man.
>>>
>>> And you know this because...?
>>
>> Because he thinks.
>
> Yikes! The dumb Polack got something right!
>
>> He is not good at it,
>
> Well, that didn't last long, did it?
>
>> but this conclusion doesn't require much.
>
> Like number, you can't sense it, you can't wield it, and you can't
> break it. That's because it has no substance. Kinda like number.
>
> Have you heard of number. Sylvia? It's a noumenon, like time.
> It exists only in the mind of man.
>

Repeating that doesn't make it any more true. We measure things using 
numbers, because it's convenient. That does not in itself mean that the 
thing measured is inherently numerical.

While I don't actually dispute that time travel is impossible, proof of 
the impossibility has not been forthcoming. At best, some of the paradox 
arguments suggest that it's impossible if time has a subset of the 
conceivable properties, but we don't know that time does.

Sylvia.

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  Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 11:33 -0800
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        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:06 -0800
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            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:48 -0800
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  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "chwilozof" <nieznajome@att.com> - 2016-12-30 16:33 -0500
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 14:25 -0800
  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 16:18 -0800
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  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 13:03 +1100
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      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 15:32 +1100
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 23:05 -0800
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 19:07 +1100
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 13:10 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:48 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 12:03 +1100
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-02 10:19 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:54 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-03 21:18 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-04 16:45 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-03 21:53 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-05 11:38 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-05 12:16 -0800
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:13 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-07 11:57 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 11:34 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 09:14 -0800
                Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 17:12 -0500
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-11 22:40 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 04:02 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-01-06 00:37 -0800
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 06:07 -0800
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 11:43 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 06:33 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 06:10 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2017-01-01 14:56 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 16:43 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 11:46 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 21:16 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:58 -0800
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 11:46 +1100
              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 06:37 +0000
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 21:19 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:52 -0800
              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:50 -0800
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      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 12:14 +1100
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-02 06:59 -0800
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:57 +1100
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              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 16:53 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 06:07 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 19:18 +1100
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 14:08 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 06:41 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-11 11:46 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 23:16 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 13:45 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 13:41 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 06:44 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 21:08 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-11 13:19 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 23:01 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ward Nusbaum <uqowm@msdmmsuus.org> - 2017-01-11 21:51 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 23:09 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-11 23:21 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-12 00:09 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 15:25 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-12 07:52 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 22:58 +0000
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-12 08:55 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 22:09 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 10:39 -0800
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