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Re: How Does Einstein's Theory Prevent Us from Falling Off the Earth?

Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Date 2015-07-12 17:23 -0700
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Subject Re: How Does Einstein's Theory Prevent Us from Falling Off the Earth?
From Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>

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uOn Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 4:12:11 PM UTC-6, kefischer wrote:
>
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 07:33:10 +1000, Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:48:25 -0400, kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >        But there _is_ a force acting in the Divergent
> > >Matter model, it is matter expanding, accelerating
> > >the surface upward.
> >
> > What is the origin of your silly force? 
> 
>          With only two charge states, there has
> to be close range repulsion of the elementary
> particles within atoms and molecules, causing
> them to be pushed apart.

If that were so, molecules would never form.  There IS close-range repulsion
because the electrons are in a shell around the positive nucleus; otherwise,
molecules would collapse.  But the more distance between atoms, the less the
repulsion because the atoms look more neutral.  At a greater distance,
atoms and molecules attract each other because of dipole and higher forces.
So there is nothing pushing matter apart at molecular distances.

>          A repulsion also exists between atoms
> and molecules in all gases, in fact, more than
> 99 percent of the matter in the universe is gas,
> and if not contained by inertia, will disperse.

This is a kinetic effect, not an electrical repulsion effect.  It's just
inertial motion which you claim to know so much about but can't see it when
it is right before you.

> > Where does the FS energy come from? 
> 
>        The charge of the elementary particles
> is constant, and the expansion that causes
> is entropic, with many measurements also
> being constant because of the participation
> of the measuring devices in the expansion.

"What you said was so confused that one could not tell whether it was
nonsense or not." - Wolfgang Pauli[

> > >        And it is a "relativity theory" model, because
> > > it treats the motion as relative, there cannot be
> > > acceleration without resulting motion.
> > > ?
> > >        Newtonian mechanics works well, except
> > > the relative motion has to be normalized to fit
> > > the situation.
> >
> > Newtonian motion works well, period.
> 
>         And it is all you are capable of dealing with.

You have trouble dealing with cold, hard facts.

>        Newtonian mutual attraction is
> even worse because it would require
> a medium that "pulls", which does not
> exist other than in magnetism.

Gravitons

> > ...and incidentally, neutrinos go right through the Earth. Why not something
> > else?  
> 
> They do not impart motion,

Of course they do ... when they are absorbed.  And sometimes they do hit
something.

> gravity does, and if they did, they probably would be absorbed, reducing
> the effect on any matter below.

Neutrinos go through lightyears of iron before they have a 50/50 chance of
being absorbed, so other particles could, too.

> > >       You can believe anything you want,
> > >GR says it is inertial, and accelerometers
> > >do agree.
> >
> > Coordinate accelerometers do not agree.
> >
> > Henry Wilson DSc.
> 
> Is the coordinate accelerometer a new invention?

No, it's called a spectrometer.

Gary

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Re: How Does Einstein's Theory Prevent Us from Falling Off the Earth? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-07-08 18:40 -0500
  Re: How Does Einstein's Theory Prevent Us from Falling Off the Earth? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-11 14:37 -0400
    Re: How Does Einstein's Theory Prevent Us from Falling Off the Earth? Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-13 07:33 +1000
      Re: How Does Einstein's Theory Prevent Us from Falling Off the Earth? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-12 18:12 -0400
        Re: How Does Einstein's Theory Prevent Us from Falling Off the Earth? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-12 17:23 -0700
    Re: How Does Einstein's Theory Prevent Us from Falling Off the Earth? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-12 14:40 -0700
      Re: How Does Einstein's Theory Prevent Us from Falling Off the Earth? qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-12 21:49 +0000

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