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Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat
Date 2016-12-05 15:41 +1100
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On 5/12/2016 2:09 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 8:56:15 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 5/12/2016 1:37 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:36:46 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sweet Mother Mary ..... Are you that Dull .... or set in your ways or are you just being a TROLL ???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If the Fine Structrue constant is a DIMENSIONLESS CONSTANT ..... THEN .....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> THIS ...(((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi .... Means GRAVITY is DIMENSIONLESS ALSO
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Things don't become dimensionless just because you want them to, nor
>>>>>>>> because you can write an equation which would only be correct if they
>>>>>>>> were dimensionless.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it seems impossible for 2 & pi to add dimension from FSC to G
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> G would just be the curvature of time relative to space, mimicking a force pushing objects together
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> G already has dimensions, and the fine structure constant is
>>>>>> dimensionless, so your equation cannot possibly be correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK ... Change it to what looks "more Correct" to You and Let me SEE ... OK ??
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is your Bare wood .. start Chiseling..
>>>>>
>>>>> (((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> which looks Surprisingly like the inverse of Kinetic energy
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now you have a equation consisting entirely of numbers, yet you seem to
>>>> think it has some physical significance.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>
>>>>> Ke = (m*v^2)/2
>>>>>
>>>
>>> The Fine Structure Constant is Dimensionless and Just a Number ...
>>> Just Rail on About that ... OK
>>
>> Yes, the fine structure constant is dimensionless, which is fine,
>> because it's defined in a way that leads to its being dimensionless.
>> Indeed, most of its significance comes from the fact that it is
>> dimensionless - everyone in the universe will arrive at the same number
>> regardless of the units used.
>>
>> G is not defined that way, is not dimensionless and has a numerical
>> value dependent on the units used.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> Maybe this will Help you see  ........ Proton Electron Ratio
>
> ((((1 / 6.6667e-11) + (299792458 / 2)) / 5e+8)^2) * 2 = 1836.13666626
>
> ((((1.5e+10) + (299792458 / 2)) / 5e+8)^2) * 2 = 1836.14654139
>
> (0.5109989461 * ((30.299792458^2) * 2)) / 938.2720813 = 1.0000011829
>
> (30.299792458^2) * 2 = 1836.154846 ....... x^2*2
>
> (((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) /pi = 1 ..... (x^2*2)/pi
>
> x^2*2
>
> ((e * cos(137035.9991232535539893 radians)) - 1) = phi
>
> x^2*2  = (N+1)^2*2 = 2 8 18 32 58 32 18 8 2 = http://i68.tinypic.com/xfn9rt.jpg = http://i65.tinypic.com/257py0p.jpg
>

Just a bunch of numbers being combined in calculations. No physical 
significance whatsoever.

Sylvia.

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The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-01 15:25 -0800
  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-02 20:12 +1100
    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 05:29 -0800
      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-03 13:10 +1100
        Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 18:41 -0800
          Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-03 13:53 +1100
            Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:24 -0800
              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-04 16:04 +1100
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 22:01 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-04 19:18 +1100
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 06:16 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 06:30 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 06:34 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 06:54 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 10:33 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 11:23 +1100
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 16:53 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 12:36 +1100
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 18:37 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 13:56 +1100
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 19:09 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 15:41 +1100
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 20:46 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 15:50 +1100
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 21:15 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 22:14 +1100
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 07:15 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 07:35 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-06 11:07 +1100
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:07 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-06 13:22 +1100
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:15 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:20 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:27 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-06 11:01 +1100
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 20:46 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 19:10 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 19:25 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 20:39 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 18:48 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 18:54 -0800
            Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:33 -0800
              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:36 -0800
              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:45 -0800
            Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:42 -0800
            Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 20:19 -0800
              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-03 22:01 +1100
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 06:26 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 06:30 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 06:34 -0800
        Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:46 -0800
  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 07:57 -0800
    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 09:48 -0800
    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 09:50 -0800
    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 18:40 -0800

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