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Re: Differences between LET and SR.

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Differences between LET and SR.
Date 2016-03-11 12:57 +1100
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On 11/03/2016 12:31 PM, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 3/10/16 3/10/16   6:59 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> For example, an observation of the distant clock through a telescope is a
>> measurement. HGW could seek to show that the two theories make different
>> predictions about what would be observed.
>
> But if he follows this thread and uses LET, he will find it makes
> exactly the same prediction as SR. Note that to calculate in LET he must
> select some inertial frame to be the ether frame; in SR he can use any
> frame for the calculation, and if he used that frame for the SR
> calculation, he would find the two calculations are identical in every
> detail. (Indeed the ONLY difference is that SR does not apply the
> sobriquet "ether frame" to it.)
>
>      Hint: the Lorentz transform of LET is the same as the Lorentz
>      transform of SR.
>
> Unfortunately your statement above is not sufficiently well specified to
> make a calculation/prediction in any theory.

He can set a clock receding from him at some velocity, and then watch it 
through a telescope. The measurement results are the images he sees. He 
can use a theory to predict how the images evolve with time. I don't see 
that that's insufficiently specified.

>
>
> Tom Roberts

I don't doubt that he'll find no difference, but he seems to want to use 
an approach other than simply taking the Lorentz transform as the 
result. That's not intrinsically wrong, but he still needs to ensure 
that he ends up with something well defined, which means something that 
can be measured.

Sylvia.

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Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-09 13:18 +1100
  Re: Differences between LET and SR. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-09 14:23 +1100
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 23:16 -0800
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-08 23:45 -0800
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-11 11:59 +1100
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-10 19:31 -0600
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-11 12:57 +1100
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-10 10:25 -0800
  Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 19:35 -0800
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-09 14:53 +1100
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-09 04:51 -0800
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-09 18:33 +0000
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. Francois Theobaldus <fraop@sshimown.org> - 2016-03-09 18:42 +0000
            Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-10 08:16 +1100
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-09 11:09 -0800
            Re: Differences between LET and SR. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-09 19:19 +0000
              Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-09 14:35 -0800
            Re: Differences between LET and SR. Francois Theobaldus <fraop@sshimown.org> - 2016-03-09 19:21 +0000
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-08 23:46 -0800
  Re: Differences between LET and SR. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-09 03:52 +0000
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-09 20:29 +1100
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-09 15:44 +0000
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-09 18:42 +0000
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-09 19:55 +0000
            Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-10 08:13 +1100
              Re: Differences between LET and SR. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-09 21:56 +0000
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. Yeriychow Patroklos <yeriypat@kambuneta.com> - 2016-03-12 10:37 +0000
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-13 08:13 +1100
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-12 14:46 -0800
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-12 14:53 -0800
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-12 17:10 -0600
            Re: Differences between LET and SR. Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 18:22 -0800
              Re: Differences between LET and SR. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 21:00 -0800
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 23:32 -0800
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-13 13:34 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-13 12:11 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 13:31 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-14 09:51 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 10:23 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-15 19:50 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-15 05:35 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-15 09:39 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-16 04:00 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-15 10:21 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-15 18:34 +0100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-15 11:24 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-16 00:48 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-16 05:09 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-16 05:26 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-16 05:35 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-16 05:57 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-17 09:25 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-16 09:10 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-15 19:44 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-15 13:42 -0700
              Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-13 09:11 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 09:34 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-13 10:47 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-14 05:32 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-13 12:04 -0700
              Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 10:22 -0500
            Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-13 09:09 -0700
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-13 09:23 +0100
            Re: Differences between LET and SR. Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 00:49 -0800
              Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-14 04:55 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-13 21:52 +0100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 14:35 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-14 09:34 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-14 12:41 +0100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-15 07:14 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-15 10:47 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-15 09:47 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-16 09:51 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-14 09:31 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-14 14:13 +0100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-15 05:58 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-14 21:40 +0000
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-14 15:50 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-15 10:51 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 07:46 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-15 20:52 +0100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Comhghall Parthalan <compart@draggonpart.org> - 2016-03-15 19:56 +0000
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-03-13 09:28 -0700
            Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-14 09:41 +1100
  Re: Differences between LET and SR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-03-09 06:55 -0800
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 09:08 -0600
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-09 18:55 +0000
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-03-09 18:19 -0800
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-03-11 06:28 -0800
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-12 18:35 +0000
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-03-13 08:55 -0700
  Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-09 18:26 +0100
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-09 19:12 +0000
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-09 22:19 +0100
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-10 09:01 +1100
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-09 23:08 +0000
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-10 13:51 +0100
            Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-13 18:48 +1100
              Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-13 14:13 +0100
  Re: Differences between LET and SR. Francois Theobaldus <fraop@sshimown.org> - 2016-03-09 18:06 +0000
  Re: Differences between LET and SR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-10 09:48 -0600
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> - 2016-03-10 16:05 +0000
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-10 17:29 +0100
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-10 09:51 -0800
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-10 12:48 -0800
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 13:24 -0600
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-10 11:48 -0800
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> - 2016-03-10 20:13 +0000
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-10 14:16 -0600
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-10 12:35 -0800
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 15:52 -0800
            Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-11 06:51 -0800
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-10 23:08 +0000
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-10 20:40 -0600
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-11 07:11 -0800
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-11 10:32 -0600
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-03-10 21:16 -0800
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-11 19:01 +0000
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-11 20:02 +0000
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-13 19:57 -0500
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 21:19 -0700
          Re: Differences between LET and SR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-14 11:40 -0500
            Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 12:10 -0500
              Re: Differences between LET and SR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-14 12:32 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-14 11:34 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-14 19:39 +0100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-15 07:36 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 14:01 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 17:14 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-15 13:51 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 07:57 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-15 14:24 +0000
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 10:33 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-16 03:54 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-15 19:51 +0000
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-15 13:52 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-16 09:07 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 17:12 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-16 10:04 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 08:51 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-17 02:48 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-16 21:19 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-17 21:00 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-17 05:05 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-17 14:43 +0100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:23 -0500
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                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 17:35 -0500
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                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-17 18:49 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-18 09:21 +1100
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                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-19 07:30 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-18 17:01 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 17:09 -0500
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                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:39 -0500
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                Re: Differences between LET and SR. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-03-18 17:56 -0700
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                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-20 20:52 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-03-19 17:58 -0700
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                Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-22 20:26 +0100
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                Re: Differences between LET and SR. David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 09:50 -0700
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                Re: Differences between LET and SR. David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 10:43 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-23 19:18 +0100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-24 09:50 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-23 10:50 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-24 09:45 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-24 09:59 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-23 13:29 +0100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:05 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-18 09:18 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 17:35 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-03-18 05:56 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:32 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-19 09:41 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:41 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-17 10:33 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-17 11:44 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-17 12:35 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-03-17 12:56 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-17 15:05 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-17 18:43 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 23:18 -0400
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                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-18 13:13 -0700
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                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-19 11:59 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-16 12:45 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-15 23:20 +0000
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-16 10:26 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 06:13 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 08:53 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-16 14:33 +0000
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                Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-17 14:29 +0100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-18 09:25 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Cesare Pancratius <cesarepanc@porphyriocontext.org> - 2016-03-19 13:17 +0000
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-22 20:49 +0100
              Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-14 11:35 -0700
            Re: Differences between LET and SR. Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 10:17 -0700
              Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-15 07:23 +1100
              Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-15 21:47 +0100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-15 14:52 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 15:00 -0700
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 17:02 -0500
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-15 23:05 +0100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-16 09:19 +1100
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. Comhghall Parthalan <compart@draggonpart.org> - 2016-03-15 22:21 +0000
                Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-16 09:33 +1100
            Re: Differences between LET and SR. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 17:11 -0700
              Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 07:47 -0500
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 23:18 -0700
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-14 21:02 +1100
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-03-14 05:51 -0700
        Re: Differences between LET and SR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 10:32 -0500
  Re: Differences between LET and SR. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-12 11:27 +0100
    Re: Differences between LET and SR. Yeriychow Patroklos <yeriypat@kambuneta.com> - 2016-03-12 10:39 +0000
      Re: Differences between LET and SR. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-13 18:45 +1100

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