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Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999
Date 2016-01-11 19:08 +1100
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On 11/01/2016 5:33 PM, David Fuller wrote:
>
> On 9/01/2016 3:39 AM, David Fuller wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 9:15:32 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 7/01/2016 12:59 AM, David Fuller wrote:
>>>> (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999
>>>>
>>>
>>> The pi cancel. What's the point of including them in the first place?
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4pi is included because c can be derived from 4pi*10^-7 if the (impedance of the vacuum^2) is considered as an invariant constant
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeability_(electromagnetism)
>>
>
> That µ0 is 4pi * 10^-7 is just a matter of definition. Nothing of
> significance turns on it, and certainly nothing can meaningfully be
> derived from it.
>
> Sylvia.
>
> No .....
> I have been following this newsgroup for 15 years
>
> The implied impedance of the vacuum is always treated as an invariant constant
> NIST says it is a constant
> NIST says u0 & e0 are constants.
> If all mass and energy was deleted from the vacuum of space time it would still be treated as having the same specified impedance.
>
µ0 derives from the definition of the Amp, which in turn was arbitrary, 
and chosen for convenience. It follows that µ0 is also arbitrary. ε0 is 
then a correspondingly arbitrary value derived from µ0 and the speed of 
light (which is also now a defined constant).

The conclusion remains the same: there is no deep significance to the 
value 4pi * 10^-7, not matter how much you'd like the converse to be true.

> You seem to be being purposefully intellectually deceptive and dishonest.
>

It only seems that way to you because you don't understand the origin of 
these constants.

Sylvia.

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Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-06 05:59 -0800
  Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-06 06:00 -0800
    Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-06 12:36 -0800
      Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-06 14:01 -0800
        Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-06 21:05 -0800
          Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-07 10:40 -0800
        Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-07 10:42 -0800
          Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-07 12:17 -0800
            Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-07 16:53 -0800
              Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 Sebastian Krüger <SebastianKruger@ih3hghjgb.org> - 2016-01-08 01:03 +0000
                Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-07 22:27 -0800
                Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-09 11:58 -0800
              Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-07 22:31 -0800
                Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-08 08:40 -0800
    Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-08 11:06 -0800
  Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-08 14:15 +1100
    Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-08 08:32 -0800
    Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-08 08:39 -0800
      Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-09 11:11 +1100
        Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-10 22:33 -0800
          Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-11 19:08 +1100
            Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-11 10:45 -0800
              Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-12 09:59 +1100
                Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-11 17:39 -0800
                Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-12 13:28 +1100
                Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-12 07:29 -0800
                Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-12 07:50 -0800
                Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-01-12 18:26 +0100
                Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-12 12:29 -0800
                Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-12 17:11 -0800
                Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-13 10:42 -0800
                Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-12 13:42 -0800
    Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-08 09:08 -0800
  Re: Mandelbrot Universe (4pi*10^-7)/((2pi/101)/49500) = 0.9999 David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-08 12:55 -0800

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