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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: What has your shitty revolution changed |
| Date | 2026-10-24 10:45 -0700 |
| Organization | The Starmaker Organization |
| Message-ID | <6ADCEEC3.3E07@ix.netcom.com> (permalink) |
| References | <18e11be84697b5d6$270$2205363$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <8P57R5XLl42Jv1cXR9AKXTun9Ko@jntp> |
Python wrote: > > Maciej, > > > Before the idiot came - clocks (mainly pendulums) were adjusted > > to indicate t'=t > > Yes. > > And after Einstein, clocks are still adjusted to realize a chosen time > scale. > > Nobody disputes this. > > What changed is that physics can predict that two equally well adjusted > clocks, following different trajectories and gravitational potentials, > will NOT naturally continue accumulating time at the same rate. > > And GPS gives us a particularly embarrassing example for your story. > > Take two properly adjusted atomic clocks. > > Leave the relativistic orbital correction OFF. > > Relativity predicts: > > +446.5 × 10^-12 > > NTS-2 measures: > > +442.5 × 10^-12 > > Then compensate that rate difference and you recover approximately: > > t' = t > > You keep describing the last step as if it refuted the first two. > > It doesn't. > > > The only difference is that now - a bunch of brainwashed crazies > > is grumbling that it is incorrect and improper and dirty > > Nobody says keeping GPS clocks synchronized is "incorrect", "improper" > or "dirty". > > Quite the opposite. > > RELATIVITY TELLS THE ENGINEERS HOW TO DO IT. > > That's the wonderfully absurd part of your new thread: > > "What has your shitty revolution changed?" > > Well, among other things, it supplied the quantitative correction that > modern satellite navigation actually uses. > > Before Einstein: > > "Adjust the clocks." > > After Einstein: > > "Adjust them by THIS MUCH." > > And THIS MUCH was experimentally tested: > > predicted: +446.5 × 10^-12 > measured: +442.5 × 10^-12 > > Your "common sense" has now produced several thousand words explaining > why clocks should be adjusted. > > It still hasn't produced the number. i don't get it. are you saying if you have two clocks, you cannot scronize them if the other clock is two inches away from each other? you need to 'adjust' it for the 2 inches of distance??? Let me take it a step further so you don't need to measure suchs a small distance in time... One clock is here, and you move the other clock not 2 inches from each other, but... the other clock you move it to the edge of the universe... What time will the other clock read? an hour difference?? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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What has your shitty revolution changed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-10-23 10:40 +0200
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-10-23 09:03 +0000
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-10-23 12:25 +0200
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-10-23 10:27 +0000
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-10-23 12:33 +0200
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-10-23 10:34 +0000
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-10-23 12:44 +0200
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-10-23 10:49 +0000
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-10-23 12:50 +0200
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-10-23 10:55 +0000
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-10-23 12:59 +0200
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-10-23 11:03 +0000
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-10-23 13:08 +0200
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-10-23 11:12 +0000
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-24 10:45 -0700
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2026-10-24 20:54 +0200
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Sean Bahtiyarov <iy@nrhtbi.ru> - 2026-10-25 17:54 +0000
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-10-25 22:34 +0100
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-10-25 22:57 +0100
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 15:01 -0700
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 14:58 -0700
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-10-26 12:14 +0100
Re: What has your shitty revolution changed Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-26 08:43 -0700
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