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Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM.

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Subject Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM.
Date Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700
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The Starmaker wrote:
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> The Starmaker wrote:
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> > The Starmaker wrote:
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> > > The Starmaker wrote:
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> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> > > >
> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> > > >
> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> > >
> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > >
> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> > >
> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> > >
> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> > >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> > >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> > >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> > >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> > >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> > >
> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
> >
> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
> >
> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
> 
> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
> underboss.
> 
> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
> 
> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
> 
> If you need a little more understanding...
> 
> By Garry Kasparov
> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
> 
> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
> the medieval red walls.
> 
> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
> 
> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
> 
> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
> 
> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
> 
> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
> into private accounts.
> 
> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
> over the main suspect in the murder.
> 
> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
> 
> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
> all just cards to be played.



Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.

When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.







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