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Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts

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Date 2018-10-30 22:57 -0700
From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts
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alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> 
> W dniu wtorek, 30 października 2018 20:18:03 UTC+1 użytkownik Thomas > > Anybody with a one bit of a rational reasoning only,
> 
> > > could easily predict this radiation in the middle ages already.
> >
> > That is another extraordinary claim for which you will also not be able to
> > present the required extraordinary evidence.
> >
> > JFYI & JFTR: In the Middle Ages (which for historians ends just before the
> > beginning of the 16th century CE, 1501 CE) people did not even know they
> > were located *in* a galaxy.
> >
> >     [The Ancient Greeks thought that the Milky Way – the galaxy, from the
> >      Ancient Greek word for “milk” – that they could easily see in the night
> >      sky (there was no light pollution back then) would be the milk spilled
> >      by the goddess Hera, wife of the god Zeus, when she discovered that
> >      Zeus had put the half-mortal baby Heracles, product of his extramarital
> >      affair with the mortal Alkmene, on her breast while she was sleeping.
> >      Arabian astronomers of course did not subscribe to that interpretation,
> >      but they still did not realize that what they saw was what one sees
> >      if one is inside a spiral galaxy and looks along its edge.]
> >
> > The first working telescope was built by Galileo Galilei (based on what he
> > heard about Lipperhey’s invention) between 1592 CE and 1610 CE.  He
> > realized, using his telescope, that the Milky Way consisted of many stars,
> > but (AFAIK) did not realize that he was located in it.
> 
> I don't need any telescopes, nor any special evidences
> to detect the obvious fact:
> the bigger energy exists/flows around us,
> then the bigger warm must be around us too!
> 
> Therefore the mainstream is in fact a horde of total imbeciles,
> because they are still proudly claiming:
> the source of the CMB energy is some fantastic
> hyper explosion for billions of years ago!
> 
> > > This is just that - perfectly.
> >
> > No, it is not.  So we have ascertained now that you are unable to read
> > comprehensively *and* (unsurprisingly) you are unable to calculate (too).
> >
> > > The energy is simply lost - dissipated along a transmission path (hence the CMB exists!).
> >
> > Which part of ”‘tired light’ has been refuted by observations more than
> > 40 years ago” did you not understand?
> 
> I don't promote any of 'tired light' concept.
> 
> Energy doesn't tired at all, it just dissipates around... thus warms the environment!



Energy doesn't ...dissipates.


It tranforms.


You must be the  'new scientists' I've been hearing about...don't know
notin..

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Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 16:25 +0000
  Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2018-10-29 09:41 -0700
    Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Ulka Górski <dug@jewandass.cu> - 2018-10-29 17:25 +0000
      Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2018-10-29 10:49 -0700
        Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Ulka Górski <dug@jewandass.cu> - 2018-10-29 18:51 +0000
    Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 18:14 +0000
      Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-29 11:20 -0700
        Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 18:48 +0000
          Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-03 11:15 -0700
  Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-29 20:34 +0100
    Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-29 13:00 -0700
    Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-29 14:43 -0700
      Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-30 18:40 +0100
        Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-30 11:30 -0700
          Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-30 20:18 +0100
            Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts alsor@interia.pl - 2018-10-30 13:29 -0700
              Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-30 22:57 -0700
              Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-03 04:20 +0100
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-03 11:26 +0100
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts alsor@interia.pl - 2018-11-03 11:55 -0700
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-03 21:34 +0100
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts alsor@interia.pl - 2018-11-03 14:11 -0700
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-04 17:34 +0100
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts alsor@interia.pl - 2018-11-04 09:10 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-04 18:25 +0100
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts alsor@interia.pl - 2018-11-04 10:30 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-05 02:34 +0100
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts alsor@interia.pl - 2018-11-04 18:03 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-05 03:17 +0100
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts alsor@interia.pl - 2018-11-05 09:29 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts alsor@interia.pl - 2018-11-03 10:52 -0700
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-05 03:06 +0100
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts alsor@interia.pl - 2018-11-05 09:08 -0800
    Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 22:00 +0000
    Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-05 09:52 -0600
      Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 14:33 -0500
        Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts alsor@interia.pl - 2018-11-05 12:15 -0800
  Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-29 18:59 -0700
    Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 08:47 +0000
      Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-30 05:49 -0700
    Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-30 22:59 -0700
      Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-31 08:11 -0700
        Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-31 16:12 -0700
          Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-01 03:29 -0700
            Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-01 10:31 -0700
  Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 16:20 +0000
    Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-30 18:48 +0100
      Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 15:42 +0000
        Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-04 16:51 +0100
        Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-04 15:00 -0800
          Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-04 18:58 -0800
          Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 22:54 -0500
            Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-05 05:13 +0100
              Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-09 05:06 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-09 16:50 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-09 16:56 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Gaston Castaneda <ucpp@java4ow.nv> - 2018-11-11 16:01 +0000
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-11 19:12 +0000
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-11 12:55 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 00:24 +0000
            Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 08:19 +0000
              Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-05 07:10 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-05 07:18 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-05 07:20 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-05 07:25 -0800
          Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 08:00 +0000
            Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-09 06:29 -0800
              Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-09 23:19 +0000
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-09 15:37 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-10 07:57 +0000
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-10 13:08 +0100
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-10 04:30 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-10 04:45 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-10 04:59 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-10 09:46 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-10 10:08 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-10 13:30 -0800
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Gaston Castaneda <ucpp@java2osw.np> - 2018-11-10 19:58 +0000
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-10 22:17 +0100
                Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Gaston Castaneda <ucpp@java2osw.np> - 2018-11-10 21:48 +0000
  Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 06:36 +0000
    Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-06 08:20 +0100
      Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 11:28 +0000
        Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-06 22:30 +0100
          Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-07 00:30 +0000
            Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-07 06:21 -0800
      Re: Alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts alsor@interia.pl - 2018-11-06 10:09 -0800

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