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Re: How Big is s PHOTON ?

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: How Big is s PHOTON ?
Date 2018-08-30 15:27 -0700
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Tom Roberts wrote:
> 
> On 8/29/18 11:50 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote:
> >> First, a photon does not have a wavelength.
> >
> > Nonsense.  It does.
> 
> Hmmm. Photons have no INTRINSIC wavelength (which is what "have" means here). It
> simply is not possible to measure the wavelength of a single photon. You can
> measure the wavelength of a monochromatic light beam (consisting of myriad
> photons), but the value obtained depends on the inertial frame of the measuring
> instrument, so cannot be intrinsic to the light beam.
> 
>         [Do not interpret this as supporting consequently7990662 --
>          he/she writes a prodigious amount of nonsense.]
> 
> > The speed of a photon is the speed of light in vacuum.
> 
> It is not possible to measure the speed of a single photon, or to even discuss
> it sensibly. Measuring the speed of a light beam in vacuum, using an instrument
> at rest in some inertial frame, one always obtains c.
> 
> > [... more claims that are marginally accurate and marginally wrong]
> Photons are inherently quantum objects, and attempting to discuss "a photon" is
> nearly always wrong. Discuss light pulses and beams, and avoid the quantum
> complexities, which are usually irrelevant around here.
> 
> Tom Roberts


photons have what is called...a quantum mass.

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How Big is s PHOTON ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 11:09 +0100
  Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 09:36 -0700
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  Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-24 18:55 -0500
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    Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-28 15:08 -0700
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      Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 12:36 -0700
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