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Re: Page 19 from the book GRAVITATION

Message-ID <59909D97.1F47@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
Date 2017-08-13 11:42 -0700
From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Page 19 from the book GRAVITATION
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Nicolaas Vroom wrote:
> 
> On Sunday, 13 August 2017 20:12:46 UTC+2, The Starmaker  wrote:
> > Nicolaas Vroom wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > In short page 19 underscores the importance of Newton in relation to
> > > the movement of the planets and overestimates, in comparison, the
> > > importance of Einstein.
> > > What is even more important Einstein uses concepts which IMO makes
> > > understanding of the issues more complex than it is.
> > > For example if you want to understand the movement of the planets
> > > you should discard (treat separately) everything that is related
> > > towards light. Moving clocks should not de used. Reaction rates
> > > should be handled with care.
> > >
> > > Nicolaas Vroom
> > > http://users.pandora.be/nicvroom/GRAVITATION_page_19.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > albert einstein created SR at some point in time..
> > then for ten years later he studied Newton gravitation, and
> > came up with GR.
> >
> >
> > Ten years is a long time...between SR and GR.
> >
> >
> > Einstein had to learn what is this thing called...Gravity.
> >
> > It took him ten years.
> >
> > You don't wake up knowing this stuff, ...you got to learn it.
> 
> What is your point?
> I have nothing against SR nor GR.
> 
> The problem is you cannot compare SR with Newton's Law and then
> claiming that Newton's Law is wrong (More or less)
> 
> Nicolaas Vroom


you wrote:

> In part 4 SR is mentioned. The most important issue is that Newton is
> not about SR but about GR. For Newton the issue is gravity.
> For Einstein it is both SR and GR. That means if you want to compare
> Einstein with Newton you should only compare, how each handles gravity
> related issues. As such this page gives the wrong impression.


maybe I got the wrong impression...

but who would compare einstein's SR with Newton's GR??? Certaintly not
me, then who?

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Page 19 from the book GRAVITATION Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2017-08-13 05:27 -0700
  Re: Page 19 from the book GRAVITATION Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-08-13 06:09 -0700
    Re: Page 19 from the book GRAVITATION Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2017-08-13 10:51 -0700
      Re: Page 19 from the book GRAVITATION Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-08-13 15:20 -0700
        Re: Page 19 from the book GRAVITATION Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2017-08-16 06:07 -0700
          Re: Page 19 from the book GRAVITATION Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-08-16 14:12 -0700
            Re: Page 19 from the book GRAVITATION mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-16 23:32 -0700
  Re: Page 19 from the book GRAVITATION The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 11:12 -0700
    Re: Page 19 from the book GRAVITATION Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2017-08-13 11:33 -0700
      Re: Page 19 from the book GRAVITATION The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 11:42 -0700

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