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Re: My mistake or Einstein's

Message-ID <57AAE799.10FD@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
Date 2016-08-10 01:36 -0700
From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, alt.astronomy
Subject Re: My mistake or Einstein's
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sepp623@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 11:48:45 PM UTC-5, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > On 10/08/2016 2:31 PM, sepp623@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 11:15:30 PM UTC-5, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > >> On 10/08/2016 2:11 PM, sepp623@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:16:32 PM UTC-5, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > >>>> On 10/08/2016 4:04 AM, sepp623@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>>>> This scenario of this simple problem ends up with contradictory results. Please identify the mistake.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Your mistake is failing to read up on Bell's Spaceship Paradox.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell%27s_spaceship_paradox
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Or, alternatively, reading up on it, and then completely
> > >>>> misunderstanding it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sylvia.
> > >>> Bell's paradox and that wikipedia link talk about a physical object connected between two accelerating objects. They talk about the length contraction of that connecting object and relativistic stress, etc.
> > >>>     In the problem I posted, there are just two accelerating objects, with nothing connecting them.  Using the coordinates in one inertial reference frame F0, the two objects crash into each other during the time in the problem. In the other inertial reference frame F1, the two objects always remain a fixed distance apart. The never crash. Both views cannot be correct.
> > >>>
> > >>> David Seppala
> > >>> Bastrop TX
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Like I said - misunderstanding it.
> > >>
> > >> Sylvia.
> > > Why not just tell me which numbers in my posting are incorrect if you think I'm misunderstanding Bell's Spaceship Paradox.  Can you do that?  No one else has.
> > >
> >
> > We've been down that rabbit warren before. It takes a lot of effort, and
> > endless patience, and all you ever do is come back with another mistaken
> > analysis.
> >
> > Anyone who doubts this need only look at the Google Groups archive.
> >
> > Sylvia.
> Didn't think you would post the error I made in the problem. No one else has.
> David Seppala
> Bastrop TX

Someone mention you have had this...problem for ten years...

is it possible you're dreaming
and everytime you wakeup
you're having the same dream?

and we are in your dream..
a dream where
"no one else has post the error"
dream?

It could be a nightmare you're having...

Certaintly would be a nightmare to me to have
a mathematically problem that 
"no one else has post the error"
for ten years.

I think it's time to
change your dream.

Take your formula
burn it up
and start a new dream..

it will end the nightmare
but there is no guarantee
you'll wake up.

It will be just a different dream.

Even Einstein made mistakes...

his unified theory never got finished..

that was his nightmare.

You were right 
with the first two words
of this subject heading..

How about a game of chess?

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My mistake or Einstein's sepp623@yahoo.com - 2016-08-09 11:04 -0700
  Re: My mistake or Einstein's The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-09 12:26 -0700
  Re: My mistake or Einstein's pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2016-08-09 12:57 -0700
  Re: My mistake or Einstein's pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2016-08-09 13:04 -0700
  Re: My mistake or Einstein's "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-09 22:39 +0200
    Re: My mistake or Einstein's sepp623@yahoo.com - 2016-08-09 13:56 -0700
      Re: My mistake or Einstein's "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-10 10:51 +0200
  Re: My mistake or Einstein's JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 15:15 -0700
    Re: My mistake or Einstein's sepp623@yahoo.com - 2016-08-09 15:38 -0700
      Re: My mistake or Einstein's JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 15:53 -0700
        Re: My mistake or Einstein's sepp623@yahoo.com - 2016-08-09 16:21 -0700
          Re: My mistake or Einstein's JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 23:05 -0700
            Re: My mistake or Einstein's Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-10 11:56 +0200
          Re: My mistake or Einstein's bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 14:17 +0200
    Re: My mistake or Einstein's The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-10 01:39 -0700
  Re: My mistake or Einstein's The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-09 17:26 -0700
    Re: My mistake or Einstein's sepp623@yahoo.com - 2016-08-09 17:38 -0700
      Re: My mistake or Einstein's The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-09 17:53 -0700
        Re: My mistake or Einstein's sepp623@yahoo.com - 2016-08-09 17:59 -0700
          Re: My mistake or Einstein's The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-09 18:26 -0700
            Re: My mistake or Einstein's sepp623@yahoo.com - 2016-08-09 19:05 -0700
              Re: My mistake or Einstein's moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-10 02:59 +0000
              Re: My mistake or Einstein's The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-09 20:06 -0700
  Re: My mistake or Einstein's Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-10 13:16 +1000
    Re: My mistake or Einstein's sepp623@yahoo.com - 2016-08-09 21:11 -0700
      Re: My mistake or Einstein's Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-10 14:15 +1000
        Re: My mistake or Einstein's sepp623@yahoo.com - 2016-08-09 21:31 -0700
          Re: My mistake or Einstein's Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-10 14:48 +1000
            Re: My mistake or Einstein's sepp623@yahoo.com - 2016-08-09 22:56 -0700
              Re: My mistake or Einstein's The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-10 01:36 -0700
  Re: My mistake or Einstein's Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-10 20:35 +1000
  Re: My mistake or Einstein's bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 14:04 +0200
    Re: My mistake or Einstein's Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-10 14:29 +0200
      Re: My mistake or Einstein's bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 15:29 +0200
        Re: My mistake or Einstein's sepp623@yahoo.com - 2016-08-10 06:36 -0700
          Re: My mistake or Einstein's Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-11 11:16 +1000
        Re: My mistake or Einstein's Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-10 15:36 +0200
    Re: My mistake or Einstein's bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 15:49 +0200
      Re: My mistake or Einstein's Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-10 16:14 +0200

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