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Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox

From	Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox
Date	2016-04-11 17:35 -0600
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On 4/11/16 3:45 PM, rotchm wrote:
> On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 2:59:09 PM UTC-4, Pentcho Valev wrote:
>
>> The traveling twin turns around, and this act of his miraculously
>> makes the distant stationary twin on the Earth older.
>

The acceleration by the traveler causes the traveler's conclusions about 
the home twin's current age to rapidly change (relative to the 
traveler's own rate of ageing).  If the traveler is accelerating TOWARD 
the home twin, he will conclude that she is rapidly getting older 
(assuming their separation is sufficiently great).  If he is 
accelerating AWAY FROM her, he will conclude that she is rapidly getting 
younger (again assuming their separation is sufficiently great).  But in 
neither case does the home twin conclude that anything unusual is 
happening to her rate of ageing. Nor do any other inertial observers 
conclude that her rate of ageing is changing because of the traveler's 
acceleration.  It strictly has to do with the TRAVELER'S PERSPECTIVE of 
her rate of ageing.  And it is the rapid ageing of the home twin 
(according to the traveler) during the turnaround that results in the 
agreement of the two twins about their respective ages when they are 
reunited, given that the traveler says she aged more slowly than he did 
on the steady-speed portions of the trip.

-- 
   https://sites.google.com/site/cadoequation/cado-reference-frame

   "Accelerated Observers in Special Relativity", PHYSICS ESSAYS, 
December 1999, p629.

   All you ever need to know about the twin "paradox".

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Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-10 11:59 -0700
  Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-11 09:32 -0700
    Re: Idiocy Called Pentcho Valev's Assertions Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-11 10:31 -0700
  Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 14:45 -0700
    Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2016-04-11 17:35 -0600
    Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-11 22:53 -0700
      Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:35 -0700
        Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-04-12 23:30 +0200
  Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 02:21 -0700
    Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 04:50 -0700
      Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-14 05:06 -0700
        Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 06:19 -0700
          Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-14 06:37 -0700
            Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 06:52 -0700
              Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 08:04 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 08:08 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 10:52 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 11:03 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 16:38 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 20:39 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-15 08:58 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-15 09:11 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-15 11:37 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-20 03:31 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-20 08:15 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-20 08:26 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-20 10:29 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 19:35 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-20 20:23 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-25 08:43 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-25 12:42 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-25 13:11 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-25 13:37 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 00:21 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 07:37 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 10:43 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 12:58 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 22:04 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-27 04:05 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-27 05:55 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-27 10:03 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-27 12:35 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-27 13:04 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-27 20:39 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-25 22:48 -0700
              Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-04-14 17:46 +0200
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 10:53 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-04-14 21:54 +0200
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 13:10 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-04-14 23:36 +0200
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 15:09 -0700
                Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-14 23:13 -0700
            Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 08:01 -0700
              Re: Idiocy Called Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-04-14 17:47 +0200

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