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Re: Relativity and physical reality (was: Why synchronize atomic clocks?)

From	Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Relativity and physical reality (was: Why synchronize atomic clocks?)
Date	2017-09-02 01:29 +0200
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Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
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You forgot to prepend “Ridiculous”.

> On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 1:10:31 PM UTC-5, Thomas 'PointedEars'
> Lahn wrote:
>> If that is a problem for you, then we will have to agree to disagree,
>> because I am convinced that Einstein would agree with me:
> 
> The language of relativity has evolved considerably since Einstein's day.

Red herring.

> Certain terms and concepts introduced by Einstein have become deprecated
> (e.g. "relativistic mass"); […]

JFTR:

Evidently, you have no clue what you are talking about.  Einstein did _not_ 
introduce the term “relativistic mass” at all; *other* people (Lewis & 
Tolman, 1909) did, and he *explicitly* *deprecated* it:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_in_special_relativity#The_relativistic_mass_concept>
| 
| “It is not good to introduce the concept of the mass M = m/√(1 − v²/c²) 
|  of a moving body for which no clear definition can be given. It is better 
|  to introduce no other mass concept than the ’rest mass’ m. Instead of 
|  introducing M it is better to mention the expression for the momentum and 
|  energy of a body in motion.”
| 
|   —Albert Einstein in letter to Lincoln Barnett, 19 June 1948
|    (quote from L. B. Okun (1989), p. 42)

> [tl;dr]

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Why synchronize atomic clocks? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-08-28 04:36 -0700
  Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-28 05:02 -0700
    Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 16:03 +0000
      Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-31 21:51 +0200
      Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-01 01:26 -0700
  Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 07:16 -0700
    Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-29 11:45 -0500
      Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-30 00:54 +0200
        Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 16:31 -0700
          Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-29 19:38 -0700
            Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-31 14:34 -0700
              Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-09-01 12:45 -0700
          Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-30 05:47 +0200
        Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-31 13:47 -0500
          Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-08-31 20:12 +0000
          Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-01 04:04 +0200
            Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 21:01 -0700
              Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 02:12 -0700
                Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-01 04:17 -0700
            Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? xxein1x1@gmail.com - 2017-08-31 21:34 -0700
              Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-01 11:41 -0500
          Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-01 11:17 -0500
            Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-01 09:43 -0700
            Relativity and physical reality (was: Why synchronize atomic clocks?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-01 20:10 +0200
              Re: Relativity and physical reality (was: Why synchronize atomic clocks?) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 12:30 -0700
                Re: Relativity and physical reality (was: Why synchronize atomic clocks?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-02 01:29 +0200
                Re: Relativity and physical reality (was: Why synchronize atomic clocks?) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 16:52 -0700
                Re: Relativity and physical reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-02 02:27 +0200
                Re: Relativity and physical reality Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 02:22 -0700
              Re: Relativity and physical reality Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-01 19:41 -0500
                Re: Relativity and physical reality mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-02 01:01 -0700
                Re: Relativity and physical reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-02 19:30 +0200
        Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 22:23 -0700
          Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-03 02:35 -0700
      Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-30 07:28 -0700
      Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 09:47 -0700
        Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-31 00:03 +0200
          Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-31 00:22 +0200
        Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-30 17:58 -0500
          Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 13:56 -0700
            Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-08-31 23:17 -0700
              Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 08:45 -0700
            Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-01 11:54 -0500
              Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-01 12:39 -0700
                Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 12:51 -0700
              Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-09-04 19:26 -0700
                Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-05 11:06 -0500
                Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-09-05 22:53 -0700
                Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-09-06 05:25 -0700
                Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-06 05:40 -0700
                Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-06 17:22 -0500
      Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-01 01:24 -0700
      Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-09-06 06:42 -0700
        Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-06 07:04 -0700
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  Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-28 08:12 -0700
    Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-28 09:11 -0700
      Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 11:15 -0500
      Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-28 09:44 -0700
        Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 11:52 -0500
    Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-08-28 23:59 -0700
      Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-01 14:01 -0700
        Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-09-02 00:20 +0200
          Re: Why synchronize atomic clocks? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-09-02 00:21 +0200
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