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| Started by | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-10-05 14:41 -0700 |
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-math-Racists of Norway, Omulf Borgan, Hans Brodersen, Robert Bruner, Erik Bolviken, Jan Christophersen, Geir Ellingsrud, Erik Fenstad,Michael Floater, Kim Froyshov, Bjorn Gjevik// Ellipse is never a conic (see proof below) Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 14:41 -0700
Re: -math-Racists of Norway, Omulf Borgan, Hans Brodersen, Robert Bruner, Erik Bolviken, Jan Christophersen, Geir Ellingsrud, Erik Fenstad,Michael Floater, Kim Froyshov, Bjorn Gjevik// Ellipse is never a conic (see proof below) qbwrfmlx@gmail.com - 2018-10-05 15:18 -0700
Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-06 05:53 +0000
Re: -math-Racists of Norway, Omulf Borgan, Hans Brodersen, Robert Bruner, Erik Bolviken, Jan Christophersen, Geir Ellingsrud, Erik Fenstad,Michael Floater, Kim Froyshov, Bjorn Gjevik// Ellipse is never a conic (see proof below) Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 19:49 -0700
| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 14:41 -0700 |
| Subject | -math-Racists of Norway, Omulf Borgan, Hans Brodersen, Robert Bruner, Erik Bolviken, Jan Christophersen, Geir Ellingsrud, Erik Fenstad,Michael Floater, Kim Froyshov, Bjorn Gjevik// Ellipse is never a conic (see proof below) |
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-math Racists in Norway, Omulf Borgan, Hans Brodersen, Robert Bruner, Erik Bolviken, Jan Christophersen, Geir Ellingsrud, Erik Fenstad,Michael Floater, Kim Froyshov, Bjorn Gjevik// Ellipse is never a conic (see proof below) konyberg writes: 1:20 PM (3 hours ago) Translate message to English >Do you really think that your arithmetic and your view down a self produced cone will prove anything? DEFINITION of a racist-scientist , racist-mathematician Racist Mathematician & Scientist definition— this is a person or group of people who reject a idea or proof or experiment on simply the grounds of __who the person was that gave/discovered the idea___, proof, or experiment. Hatred of the source. Hatred of the author/s. Racists ignore or deny the truth because they hate the source. And racists would rather keep on teaching a fakery or wrong science than to change to the true science. Most people think Racist Mathematicians and Physicists are rare. But sci.math and sci.physics from 1993 to 2018 is proving that the majority of physics and math professors around the world are Racists, for example-- the AP proof ellipse is never a conic cut, but rather a cylinder cut. And the AP discovery that the Real Electron = muon = 105MeV, real proton = 840MeV, and the .5MeV particle was Dirac's magnetic monopole. Univ Oslo math dept. Omulf Borgan, Hans Brodersen, Robert Bruner, Erik Bolviken, Jan Christophersen, Geir Ellingsrud, Erik Fenstad, Michael Floater, Kim Froyshov, Bjorn Gjevik Konyberg, KON, 5 year stalker buffoon .. .- " `-. ,..-''' ```....'`-.. , . `.' ' `. .' .' ` ` ' `.. ; . ; .' . `. ; ; . ' `. . ' . ' ` `. | . '. ' . 0 0 ' `. ' ` ; ` .' ` ; U ` ; '; ` : | ;.. :` ` : `;. ```. .-; | ' '. ` ``.., .' :' ' ; ` ;'.. ..-'' ' ' I am KON, stupid in math, but love to stalk and pester other people ` ` ; ````'''""' ; ' ' ` ` ; ; ' ' ` ` ; ; ' ' ` `. ````'''''' ' ' ` . ' ' / ` `. ' ' . / ` .. ..' .'"""""...' / .` ` ``........-' .'` .....''' / .'' ; ` .' ` ...'.' ; .' ` .' ` "" .' .' | ` .; \ ` ; .' | `. . . . ' . \ ` :' | ' ` , `. ` | ' ` ' `. ` ` ' ` ; `. | `.' ` ; `-' `...' Univ Oslo physics dept Tore Amundsen, Arvid Andreassen, Carl Angell , Kjell Hugo Bendiksen, Jan Olav Eeg, Alv Egeland *, Torgeir Engeland, Iouri Galperine, Sverre Grimnes, Oyvind Gron, Thormod Henriksen, Jan Anstein Holtet, Jon Magne Leinaas, Torfinn Lindem, Gunnar Lovhoiden, Johan Emilian Moan, Joran Idar Moen, Arne Olsen, Eivind Osnes, Hans Pecseli, Finn Ravndal, John Rekstad, Toralf Bernhard Skaali, Sven Oluf Sorensen NTNU Norway, Marte Andresen, Nils Baas, Oyvind Bakke, Petter Bergh, Aslak Buan, Elena Celledoni, Trond Digernes, Mats Ehrnstrom, Jo Eidsvik, Steiner Engen, Anton Evgrafov, Ulrick Fjordholm, John Fornaess, Kristian Gjosteen, Markus Grasmair, Katrin Grunert, Kari Hag, Helge Holden, Marius Irgens, Espen Jakobsen, Finn Knudsen, Harald Krogstad /\-------/\ \::O:::O::/ (::_ ^ _::) \_`-----'_/ You mean the classroom is the world, not just my cubbyhole in Norway? And, even though you-- professors of math who never want to fix and clean up error filled mathematics, your students deserve better, and you should quit teaching if you cannot come around to admitting a ellipse is a cylinder section, never a conic section. For it is embarrassing to have students smarter than the math professor who by taking a cone, cylinder can and a round lid, can prove on the spot, in the classroom that the cone yields an oval, never an ellipse. Proofs ellipse is never a conic, always a cylinder section by Archimedes Plutonium -------------------- AP's proof the ellipse is never a Conic Section, always a Cylinder section, and how the proof works Let us analyze AP's Proof On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 6:57:36 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: Array:: Analytic Geometry proof that Cylinder section= Ellipse//Conic section = Oval, never ellipse Now I did 3 Experiments and 3 models of the problem, but it turns out that one model is superior over all the other models. One model is the best of all. That model is where you construct a cone and a cylinder and then implant a circle inside the cone and cylinder attached to a handle so that you can rotate the circle inside. Mine uses a long nail that I poked holes into the side of a cylinder and another one inside a cone made from heavy wax paper of magazine covers. And I used a Mason or Kerr used lid and I attached them to the nail by drilling two holes into each lid and running a wire as fastener. All of this done so I can rotate or pivot the circle inside the cylinder and cone. You need a long nail, for if you make the models too small or too skinny, you lose clarity. ARRAY, Analytic Geometry Proof, Cylinder Section is a Ellipse:: E __ .-' `-. .' `. / \ ; ; | G c | H ; ; \ / `. .' `-. _____ .-' F Alright, focus on the distance from c to F in the cone-cut compared to the distance from c to E In a Cylinder cut, those two distances are the same because a cylinder has two axes of symmetry. The side view of a cylinder is this | | | | | | That allows cE to be the same distance as cF But the side view of the cone is /\E /c \ F / \ The distance c to E is shorter because the slant of the side walls of the cone are in the direction of shortening cE, whereas the slant opposite c in cF make that distance larger than cE The above is a view of a ellipse with center c and is produced by the Sectioning of a Cylinder as long as the cut is not perpendicular to the base, and as long as the cut involves two points not larger than the height of the cylinder walls. What we want to prove is that the cut is always a ellipse, which is a plane figure of two axes of symmetry with a Major Axis and Minor Axis and center at c. Side view of Cylinder EGFH above with entry point cut at E and exit point cut at F and where c denotes the central axis of the cylinder and where x denotes a circle at c parallel with the base-circle of cylinder | | | | E | | | | |x c |x | | | | | | |F | | | | | | | So we can see that the distance cE = cF in cylinder for the walls are Parallel to one another, giving distance symmetry But in the Cone, the walls are not parallel, shortening the distance cE compared to cF. Leaving only one axis of symmetry that of cx. The oval is the conic section of a cut at a slant, while the cylinder cut at a slant is a ellipse. The Oval has just one axis of symmetry. So, what is the proof that figure EGFH is always an ellipse in the cylinder section? The line segment GH is the diameter of the circle base of cylinder and the cylinder axis cuts this diameter in half such that Gc = cH. Now we only need to show that Fc = cE. This is done from the right triangles cxF and cxE, for we note that by Angle-Side-Angle these two right triangles are congruent and hence Fc = cE, our second axis of symmetry and thus figure EGFH is always an ellipse. QED Array proof:: Analytic Geometry proof that Conic section= Oval// never ellipse ARRAY, Analytic Geometry Proof, Conic Section is a Oval, never an ellipse:: A ,'" "`. / \ C | c | D \ / ` . ___ .' B The above is a view of a figure formed from the cut of a conic with center c as the axis of the cone and is produced by the Sectioning of a Cone as long as the cut is not perpendicular to the base, and as long as the cut is not a hyperbola, parabola or circle (nor line). What we want to prove is that this cut is always a oval, never an ellipse. An oval is defined as a plane figure of just one axis of symmetry and possessing a center, c, with a Major Diameter as the axis of symmetry and a Minor Diameter. In our diagram above, the major diameter is AB and minor diameter is CD. Alright, almost the same as with Cylinder section where we proved the center was half way between Major Axis and Minor Axis of cylinder, only in the case of the Conic, we find that the center is half way between CD the Minor Diameter, but the center is not halfway in between the Major Diameter, and all of that because of the reason the slanted walls of the cone cause the distance cA to be far smaller than the distance cB. In the diagram below we have the circle of x centered at c and parallel to base. The angle at cx is not 90 degrees as in cylinder. The angle of cAx is not the same as the angle cBx, as in the case of the cylinder, because the walls of the cone-for line segments- are slanted versus parallel in the cylinder. Triangles cAx and cBx are not congruent, and thus, the distance of cA is not equal to cB, leaving only one axis of symmetry AB, not CD. / \A x/ c \x B/ \ Hence, every cut in the Cone, not a hyperbola, not a parabola, not a circle (not a line) is a Oval, never an ellipse. QED --Archimedes Plutonium Very crude dot picture of 5f6, 94TH ELECTRON=muon DOT CLOUD of 231Pu ::\ ::|:: /:: ::\::|::/:: _ _ (:Y:) - - ::/::|::\:: ::/ ::|:: \:: One of those dots is the Milky Way galaxy. And each dot represents another galaxy. . \ . . | . /. . . \. . .|. . /. . ..\....|.../... ::\:::|::/:: --------------- ------------- --------------- (Y) ------------- --------------- -------------- ::/:::|::\:: ../....|...\... . . /. . .|. . \. . . / . . | . \ . http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies I re-opened the old newsgroup PAU of 1990s and there one can read my recent posts without the hassle of spammers, off-topic-misfits, front-page-hogs, stalking mockers, suppression-bullies, and demonizers. Read my recent posts in peace and quiet. https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/plutonium-atom-universe Archimedes Plutonium
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| From | qbwrfmlx@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 15:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <96e50838-5ab9-4c8e-852f-7dcdd11c3b4b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #425033 |
On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 2:41:27 PM UTC-7, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > But in the Cone, the walls are not parallel, shortening the distance cE compared to cF. Leaving only one axis of symmetry that of cx. The oval is the conic section of a cut at a slant, while the cylinder cut at a slant is a ellipse. The Oval has just one axis of symmetry. Archie has been shown over and over that he made a crank mistake and the intersection is an ellipse. Archie says he has been crank screeching his mistake for half a decade without convincing a single person in the world to accept his mistake as the truth. And he keeps crank screeching insults at those who show him he is wrong and far, far many more who have never heard of him and never will. Unfortunately no one has been able to explain to Archie in words and pictures that a 9-year-old's mind can understand that he made a crank brain mistake and there is no hope of his ever getting what he desperately needs from ovals. If there were a fairly inexpensive plastic model which a 9-year-old mind could be forced to see overwhelmingly conclusively refuted his his claim then maybe mailing that to Archie might get him to move on to his next crank brain mistaken claim. Archie has begged for free legal representation in the past so he could sue people who he imagines have wronged him. And this is with his claims having made huge sums of money using his logic brain to beat the stock market. Maybe we should ask everyone who has been slandered by Archie if they would contribute $20 to an excellent lawyer to sue Archie for everything he has. If a good lawyer thought we had a decent chance of winning then I would contribute more than $20. Bean Counter
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-10-06 05:53 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test |
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Math Failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> fails: >Subject: Re: True Chemistry-- 2018 textbook of Experiment-- Real Electron >= 105MeV, Real Proton = 840MeV, Dirac's magnetic monopole = .5Me So now you wish to sabotage chemistry as well?
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-13 19:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4efb9865-ccd7-412d-a903-469ace84b133@googlegroups.com> |
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konyberg stalked: 9:38 PM (7 minutes ago) >What formula? I don't see one. KON AP writes: the stupid Norwegian stalker can't see King Harald V, so no surprise the stupid KON can't see math. > -math Racists in Norway, Omulf Borgan, Hans Brodersen, Robert Bruner, Erik Bolviken, Jan Christophersen, Geir Ellingsrud, Erik Fenstad,Michael Floater, Kim Froyshov, Bjorn Gjevik// Ellipse is never a conic (see proof below) > > konyberg writes: > 1:20 PM (3 hours ago) > Translate message to English > >Do you really think that your arithmetic and your view down a self produced cone will prove anything? > > > DEFINITION of a racist-scientist , racist-mathematician > Racist Mathematician & Scientist definition— this is a person or group of people who reject a idea or proof or experiment on simply the grounds of __who the person was that gave/discovered the idea___, proof, or experiment. Hatred of the source. Hatred of the author/s. Racists ignore or deny the truth because they hate the source. And racists would rather keep on teaching a fakery or wrong science than to change to the true science. > > Most people think Racist Mathematicians and Physicists are rare. But sci.math and sci.physics from 1993 to 2018 is proving that the majority of physics and math professors around the world are Racists, for example-- the AP proof ellipse is never a conic cut, but rather a cylinder cut. And the AP discovery that the Real Electron = muon = 105MeV, real proton = 840MeV, and the .5MeV particle was Dirac's magnetic monopole. > > > Univ Oslo math dept. > Omulf Borgan, Hans Brodersen, Robert Bruner, Erik Bolviken, Jan Christophersen, Geir Ellingsrud, Erik Fenstad, Michael Floater, Kim Froyshov, Bjorn Gjevik > > > > Konyberg, KON, 5 year stalker buffoon > > .. > .- " `-. ,..-''' ```....'`-.. > , . `.' ' `. > .' .' ` ` ' `.. ; > . ; .' . `. ; > ; . ' `. . ' > . ' ` `. | > . '. ' > . 0 0 ' `. > ' ` > ; ` > .' ` > ; U ` > ; '; ` > : | ;.. :` ` > : `;. ```. .-; | ' > '. ` ``.., .' :' ' > ; ` ;'.. ..-'' ' ' I am KON, stupid in math, but love to stalk and pester other people > ` ` ; ````'''""' ; ' ' > ` ` ; ; ' ' > ` ` ; ; ' ' > ` `. ````'''''' ' ' > ` . ' ' > / ` `. ' ' . > / ` .. ..' .'"""""...' > / .` ` ``........-' .'` .....''' > / .'' ; ` .' ` > ...'.' ; .' ` .' ` > "" .' .' | ` .; \ ` > ; .' | `. . . . ' . \ ` > :' | ' ` , `. ` > | ' ` ' `. ` > ` ' ` ; `. | > `.' ` ; `-' > `...' > > > > > Univ Oslo physics dept > Tore Amundsen, Arvid Andreassen, Carl Angell , Kjell Hugo Bendiksen, Jan Olav Eeg, Alv Egeland *, Torgeir Engeland, Iouri Galperine, Sverre Grimnes, Oyvind Gron, Thormod Henriksen, Jan Anstein Holtet, Jon Magne Leinaas, Torfinn Lindem, Gunnar Lovhoiden, Johan Emilian Moan, Joran Idar Moen, Arne Olsen, Eivind Osnes, Hans Pecseli, Finn Ravndal, John Rekstad, Toralf Bernhard Skaali, Sven Oluf Sorensen > > NTNU Norway, Marte Andresen, Nils Baas, Oyvind Bakke, Petter Bergh, Aslak Buan, Elena Celledoni, Trond Digernes, Mats Ehrnstrom, Jo Eidsvik, Steiner Engen, Anton Evgrafov, Ulrick Fjordholm, John Fornaess, Kristian Gjosteen, Markus Grasmair, Katrin Grunert, Kari Hag, Helge Holden, Marius Irgens, Espen Jakobsen, Finn Knudsen, Harald Krogstad > > > /\-------/\ > \::O:::O::/ > (::_ ^ _::) > \_`-----'_/ > You mean the classroom is the world, not just my cubbyhole in Norway? > And, even though you-- professors of math who never want to fix and clean up error filled mathematics, your students deserve better, and you should quit teaching if you cannot come around to admitting a ellipse is a cylinder section, never a conic section. For it is embarrassing to have students smarter than the math professor who by taking a cone, cylinder can and a round lid, can prove on the spot, in the classroom that the cone yields an oval, never an ellipse. > > Proofs ellipse is never a conic, always a cylinder section by > Archimedes Plutonium > -------------------- > AP's proof the ellipse is never a Conic Section, always a Cylinder section, and how the proof works > > Let us analyze AP's Proof > > On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 6:57:36 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > > > Array:: Analytic Geometry proof that Cylinder section= Ellipse//Conic > section = Oval, never ellipse > > Now I did 3 Experiments and 3 models of the problem, but it turns out > that one model is superior over all the other models. One model is the > best of all. > > That model is where you construct a cone and a cylinder and then > implant a circle inside the cone and cylinder attached to a handle so > that you can rotate the circle inside. Mine uses a long nail that I > poked holes into the side of a cylinder and another one inside a cone > made from heavy wax paper of magazine covers. And I used a Mason or > Kerr used lid and I attached them to the nail by drilling two holes > into each lid and running a wire as fastener. All of this done so I > can rotate or pivot the circle inside the cylinder and cone. You need > a long nail, for if you make the models too small or too skinny, you > lose clarity. > > ARRAY, Analytic Geometry Proof, Cylinder Section is a Ellipse:: > > > E > __ > .-' `-. > .' `. > / \ > ; ; > | G c | H > ; ; > \ / > `. .' > `-. _____ .-' > F > > > > Alright, focus on the distance from c to F in the cone-cut compared to the distance from c to E > > In a Cylinder cut, those two distances are the same because a cylinder has two axes of symmetry. > > The side view of a cylinder is this > > | | > | | > | | > > That allows cE to be the same distance as cF > > > But the side view of the cone is > > /\E > /c \ > F / \ > > > The distance c to E is shorter because the slant of the side walls of the cone are in the direction of shortening cE, whereas the slant opposite c in cF make that distance larger than cE > > The above is a view of a ellipse with center c and is produced by the > Sectioning of a Cylinder as long as the cut is not perpendicular to > the base, and as long as the cut involves two points not larger than > the height of the cylinder walls. What we want to prove is that the > cut is always a ellipse, which is a plane figure of two axes of > symmetry with a Major Axis and Minor Axis and center at c. > > Side view of Cylinder EGFH above with entry point cut at E and exit > point cut at F and where c denotes the central axis of the cylinder > and where x denotes a circle at c parallel with the base-circle of > cylinder > > | | > | | E > | | > | | > |x c |x > | | > | | > | | > |F | > | | > | | > | | > > > > So we can see that the distance cE = cF in cylinder for the walls are Parallel to one another, giving distance symmetry > > But in the Cone, the walls are not parallel, shortening the distance cE compared to cF. Leaving only one axis of symmetry that of cx. The oval is the conic section of a cut at a slant, while the cylinder cut at a slant is a ellipse. The Oval has just one axis of symmetry. > > So, what is the proof that figure EGFH is always an ellipse in the > cylinder section? The line segment GH is the diameter of the circle > base of cylinder and the cylinder axis cuts this diameter in half such > that Gc = cH. Now we only need to show that Fc = cE. This is done from > the right triangles cxF and cxE, for we note that by Angle-Side-Angle > these two right triangles are congruent and hence Fc = cE, our second > axis of symmetry and thus figure EGFH is always an ellipse. QED > > > > Array proof:: Analytic Geometry proof that Conic section= Oval// never ellipse > > ARRAY, Analytic Geometry Proof, Conic Section is a Oval, never an ellipse:: > > > A > ,'" "`. > / \ > C | c | D > \ / > ` . ___ .' > B > > The above is a view of a figure formed from the cut of a conic with > center c as the axis of the cone and is produced by the Sectioning of > a Cone as long as the cut is not perpendicular to the base, and as > long as the cut is not a hyperbola, parabola or circle (nor line). > What we want to prove is that this cut is always a oval, never an > ellipse. An oval is defined as a plane figure of just one axis of > symmetry and possessing a center, c, with a Major Diameter as the axis > of symmetry and a Minor Diameter. In our diagram above, the major > diameter is AB and minor diameter is CD. > > Alright, almost the same as with Cylinder section where we proved the > center was half way between Major Axis and Minor Axis of cylinder, > only in the case of the Conic, we find that the center is half way > between CD the Minor Diameter, but the center is not halfway in > between the Major Diameter, and all of that because of the reason the > slanted walls of the cone cause the distance cA to be far smaller than > the distance cB. In the diagram below we have the circle of x centered > at c and parallel to base. The angle at cx is not 90 degrees as in > cylinder. The angle of cAx is not the same as the angle cBx, as in the > case of the cylinder, because the walls of the cone-for line segments- > are slanted versus parallel in the cylinder. Triangles cAx and cBx are > not congruent, and thus, the distance of cA is not equal to cB, > leaving only one axis of symmetry AB, not CD. > > / \A > x/ c \x > B/ \ > > Hence, every cut in the Cone, not a hyperbola, not a parabola, not a > circle (not a line) is a Oval, never an ellipse. > > QED > > --Archimedes Plutonium > > Very crude dot picture of 5f6, 94TH > ELECTRON=muon DOT CLOUD of 231Pu > > > ::\ ::|:: /:: > ::\::|::/:: > _ _ > (:Y:) > - - > ::/::|::\:: > ::/ ::|:: \:: > One of those dots is the Milky Way galaxy. And each dot represents another galaxy. > . \ . . | . /. > . . \. . .|. . /. . > ..\....|.../... > ::\:::|::/:: > --------------- ------------- > --------------- (Y) ------------- > --------------- -------------- > ::/:::|::\:: > ../....|...\... > . . /. . .|. . \. . > . / . . | . \ . > > > http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies > > I re-opened the old newsgroup PAU of 1990s and there one can read my recent posts without the hassle of spammers, off-topic-misfits, front-page-hogs, stalking mockers, suppression-bullies, and demonizers. > > Read my recent posts in peace and quiet. > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/plutonium-atom-universe > Archimedes Plutonium
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