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Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you believe it CO is highest

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  Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you believe it CO is highest Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 14:02 -0700
    CO has twice the energy than CO2 Re: Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you believe it CO is highest Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 21:43 -0700
      Re: CO has twice the energy than CO2 Re: Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you believe it CO is highest Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 03:42 -0700
      Re: Archimedes "Total Failure" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-30 13:27 +0000

#422443 — Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you believe it CO is highest

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-29 14:02 -0700
SubjectIsomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you believe it CO is highest
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Newsgroups: sci.physics, sci.math
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 13:31:27 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you
 believe it CO is highest
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
Injection-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 20:31:27 +0000

Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you believe it CO is highest

In New Chemistry, based on AP-Maxwell Equations and the fact real electron = muon, and proton = 840MeV and .5MeV particle was the Dirac Magnetic Monopole. So the point of bonding in Chemistry is all about manufacturing more monopoles at the greatest speed. 

So, I need a table of Bond Dissociation Energy to tell me if I am getting the geometry correct. We throw out the Lewis structure, based on 8, altogether, as silly. Lewis structure was chemistry where they had no job, no task for subatomic particles. In New Chemistry, the muon is the bar magnet in Faraday law and the proton is a coil in Faraday Law, the neutron acts as a storage container, a capacitor for newly created monopoles. 

We have a 6 bond structure, based on 6 in the formation of toruses. A single unpaired muon with attendant proton is 1/2torus a paired muons with attendant protons is a full torus. 

Now the bonding maybe inside a P orbital to form toruses inside the P orbital (thus atomic size is smaller going across the Periodic Table. Contrast to a bonding where the lone muon goes outside the atom such as NaCL in ionic bonding. 

Covalent for the most part is orbital bonding. Ionic bonding is outside the atom. 

source: chem.ucsb.edu 

in kJ/mol 

CO 1076 
C2H2 962 
N2  946 
HCN  937 
CN 770 
H2OC  732 
CO2 532 
ON2 480 
CH4 431 
CH  337 
O2  498 
ON  630 
H2  436 
HD  439 
D2  443 

NaCL 410 
NaF  481 

This table, remarkably is proof that the bonding of Chemistry is based on 6, not the silly daffy Lewis structure. 

My goal and task is to show CO2 has many isomers, and that animal-CO2 is far far different than fire-CO2 and that plants can only utilize the CO2 from animals, so it is important to save all wild animals, no more extinctions. 



Very crude dot picture of 5f6, 94TH 
ELECTRON=muon DOT CLOUD of 231Pu 


                ::\ ::|:: /:: 
                 ::\::|::/:: 
                     _ _ 
                    (:Y:) 
                     - - 
                 ::/::|::\:: 
                ::/ ::|:: \:: 
One of those dots is the Milky Way galaxy. And each dot represents another galaxy. 
            . \ .  . | .   /. 
           . . \. . .|. . /. . 
              ..\....|.../... 
               ::\:::|::/:: 
---------------      ------------- 
--------------- (Y) ------------- 
---------------      -------------- 
               ::/:::|::\:: 
              ../....|...\... 
           . . /. . .|. . \. . 
            . / .  . | .   \ . 

  
http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ 
whole entire Universe is just one big atom 
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies 

I re-opened the old newsgroup PAU of 1990s and there one can read my recent posts without the hassle of spammers, off-topic-misfits, front-page-hogs, stalking mockers, suppression-bullies, and demonizers.      

Read my recent posts in peace and quiet.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/plutonium-atom-universe         
Archimedes Plutonium

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#422478 — CO has twice the energy than CO2 Re: Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you believe it CO is highest

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-29 21:43 -0700
SubjectCO has twice the energy than CO2 Re: Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you believe it CO is highest
Message-ID<2abf934d-b2ac-421e-b093-ab14c420d5f0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#422443
On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 4:02:17 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Newsgroups: sci.physics, sci.math
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 13:31:27 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> Subject: Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you
>  believe it CO is highest
> From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
> Injection-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 20:31:27 +0000
> 
> Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you believe it CO is highest
> 
> In New Chemistry, based on AP-Maxwell Equations and the fact real electron = muon, and proton = 840MeV and .5MeV particle was the Dirac Magnetic Monopole. So the point of bonding in Chemistry is all about manufacturing more monopoles at the greatest speed. 
> 
> So, I need a table of Bond Dissociation Energy to tell me if I am getting the geometry correct. We throw out the Lewis structure, based on 8, altogether, as silly. Lewis structure was chemistry where they had no job, no task for subatomic particles. In New Chemistry, the muon is the bar magnet in Faraday law and the proton is a coil in Faraday Law, the neutron acts as a storage container, a capacitor for newly created monopoles. 
> 
> We have a 6 bond structure, based on 6 in the formation of toruses. A single unpaired muon with attendant proton is 1/2torus a paired muons with attendant protons is a full torus. 
> 
> Now the bonding maybe inside a P orbital to form toruses inside the P orbital (thus atomic size is smaller going across the Periodic Table. Contrast to a bonding where the lone muon goes outside the atom such as NaCL in ionic bonding. 
> 
> Covalent for the most part is orbital bonding. Ionic bonding is outside the atom. 
> 

Alright, I am hoping that the source below did these values from actual experimental results. Not some theoretical formula but actual laboratory data of experiments. I am relying on these numbers to be experimentally derived.

Because Old Chemistry is completely wrong with its electron = .5MeV when it truly is 105MeV, and Old Chemistry is ridiculously wrong with 8 in Lewis structure when it should be 6 in Faraday Law structure.


> source: chem.ucsb.edu 
> 
> in kJ/mol 
> 
> CO 1076 
> C2H2 962 
> N2  946 
> HCN  937 
> CN 770 
> H2OC  732 
> CO2 532 


Alright, I do have one discovery that is new, already. Playing around with these wood models. Notice that CO is 1076 and that CO2 is 532 which when multipled by 2 would be 1064. (Sort of reminds me of my discovery that Real Electron = muon since 105 into 945 was exactly 9.)

Now the Sigma Error in 1076/1064 is 1.01 or 1% sigma error.

That means the bonding in CO is twice the strength of CO2 bonding.

So I built a model of wood today and see that what could be 2 X in CO that is not in CO2

And looking at the models-- remember 6 is full valence, not 8, I see that the C in CO needs a full P_z and what happens is the full P_x in O of CO shares its two muons in C to fill the P_z. So CO is similar to N2 only here, the P_x of O shares to fill P_z in C of CO. Notice the N2 is 946 not far from 1076.

While the CO2 forms a torus of 6 bonds with both oxygen atoms not sharing their P_x. And this double P_x leaves the CO2 molecule open for many isomer possibilities.


> ON2 480 
> CH4 431 
> CH  337 
> O2  498 
> ON  630 
> H2  436 
> HD  439 
> D2  443 
> 
> NaCL 410 
> NaF  481 
> 
> This table, remarkably is proof that the bonding of Chemistry is based on 6, not the silly daffy Lewis structure. 
> 
> My goal and task is to show CO2 has many isomers, and that animal-CO2 is far far different than fire-CO2 and that plants can only utilize the CO2 from animals, so it is important to save all wild animals, no more extinctions. 
> 

The least amount of energy to release the Carbon atom from CO2 is animal CO2. The fire-CO2 isomers have added energy and tough to impossible for plants to release the C from O2.

AP

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#422522 — Re: CO has twice the energy than CO2 Re: Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you believe it CO is highest

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-30 03:42 -0700
SubjectRe: CO has twice the energy than CO2 Re: Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you believe it CO is highest
Message-ID<9fc46e42-b9db-42c7-85ba-6cd9d5e22800@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#422478
Newsgroups: sci.physics
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 03:30:35 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: B2 = 157kJ/mol proves AP structure is the true chemistry and Lewis
 structure is a fool's game Re: Isomers of CO2
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
Injection-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:30:36 +0000

B2 = 157kJ/mol proves AP structure is the true chemistry and Lewis structure is a fool's game Re: Isomers of CO2

On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 4:00:18 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: 
> Newsgroups: sci.physics, sci.math 
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 13:31:27 -0700 (PDT) 
> 
> Subject: Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you 
>  believe it CO is highest 
> From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com> 
> Injection-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 20:31:27 +0000 
> 
> Isomers of CO2, but first, bond dissociation energies, can you believe it CO is highest 
> 
> In New Chemistry, based on AP-Maxwell Equations and the fact real electron = muon, and proton = 840MeV and .5MeV particle was the Dirac Magnetic Monopole. So the point of bonding in Chemistry is all about manufacturing more monopoles at the greatest speed. 
> 
> So, I need a table of Bond Dissociation Energy to tell me if I am getting the geometry correct. We throw out the Lewis structure, based on 8, altogether, as silly. Lewis structure was chemistry where they had no job, no task for subatomic particles. In New Chemistry, the muon is the bar magnet in Faraday law and the proton is a coil in Faraday Law, the neutron acts as a storage container, a capacitor for newly created monopoles. 
> 
> We have a 6 bond structure, based on 6 in the formation of toruses. A single unpaired muon with attendant proton is 1/2torus a paired muons with attendant protons is a full torus. 
> 
> Now the bonding maybe inside a P orbital to form toruses inside the P orbital (thus atomic size is smaller going across the Periodic Table. Contrast to a bonding where the lone muon goes outside the atom such as NaCL in ionic bonding. 
> 
> Covalent for the most part is orbital bonding. Ionic bonding is outside the atom. 
> 
> source: chem.ucsb.edu 
> 
> in kJ/mol 
> 

Alright, same thing goes for chemistry and physics, a project I am doing currently in math-- conversion of all functions and equations into Polynomials. 

In Chemistry and Physics what we need is the conversion of all energy into eV, electron volts. No more of this crazy patch quilt of idiotic joules, calories and other greater-fool nonsense 

Every every thing in science energy be electron-volts 

1eV = 96.48kJ/mol 

So convert all dissociation energies into eV, that way we can all think in one universal energy. 


> CO 1076 
> C2H2 962 
> N2  946 
> HCN  937 
> CN 770 
> H2OC  732 
> CO2 532 
> ON2 480 
> CH4 431 
> CH  337 
> O2  498 
> ON  630 
> H2  436 
> HD  439 
> D2  443 
> 
> NaCL 410 
> NaF  481 
> 
> This table, remarkably is proof that the bonding of Chemistry is based on 6, not the silly daffy Lewis structure. 
> 

Now, I was wondering tonight if the Table of Dissociation Energies can prove whether Lewis Structure based on 8 number is true or whether AP structure based on 6 in Faraday Law for toruses is true. One has to be true, the other false. 

Well, the Table does prove the AP structure. 

Consider Boron, B2 



> My goal and task is to show CO2 has many isomers, and that animal-CO2 is far far different than fire-CO2 and that plants can only utilize the CO2 from animals, so it is important to save all wild animals, no more extinctions. 


Consider boron, its dissociation energy is 157 kJ/mol 

Now, the strongest energy of the same atom is N2 = 946, whereas B2 = 157. 

If we multiply 157x6 = 942 

946/942 is sigma error of 1.004, or .4% which means they are the same bonding mechanism 

But, multiply 157 by Lewis's 8 is 1256, and no chemical bonding of the same atoms ever comes close to that. 

So, here is a proof that AP structure is true Chemistry, while Lewis structure was some fools game. 

AP

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#422544 — Re: Archimedes "Total Failure" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-08-30 13:27 +0000
SubjectRe: Archimedes "Total Failure" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test
Message-ID<pm8rc0$fp0$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#422478
Math Failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> fails:

> (Sort of reminds me of my discovery that Real Electron = muon since 105 
> into 945 was exactly 9.) 

...
☐ ...and Archie can't get over the shame of messing up percentages...
☑ ...he even still thinks 8.88 is "exactly" 9...
...

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